our first as eurythmics was called "in the garden."nd nothing happened with that in terms of commercial success. to be frank, you kind of need that if -- it's gasoline in the tank. then we created "sweet dreams." at that point, we were on our fifth album that we ahe'd made. i was ready to go to scotland with my tail between my legs and take on a teaching profession or something. i thought time to give up. and with perseverance, things started to happen. and it goes on from there. it was hard, hard work and challenging, and it is. it has its own momentum. and it was a decade of creativity like it. it -- it is extraordinary. i'm amazed myself that we lasted the course so well, we came out of it sane. that we're still alive and kicking and both doing our special thing. >> yeah, not just alive and kicking but still creative. still innovative which is tough to do in this business. >> certainly. it's getting harder and harder. when i hear record company executives talking about, you know, the background of like what it is to have a young art