>> i was looking at eustace tilly. doodling hinge. i wondered what he would look like if he was -- for months and months before, the violence that erupted in crown heights between the hasidic community and the black exunt, kind of a -- munt community, kind of a race riot had he should just kiss and make up. how can i express that thought it was like finding a thought poking around, like a scientists in the lab, this rather rather attractively faux naive picture, a possible valentine's picture dealt with something charge was explosive at that moment, so different than what had come before the magazine's history. >> the female construction worker nursing her child? where did that come from? >> before i met francois. >> your wife. >> doing electrical sheetrocking, plumbing, acting as a play working as an architectural model-builder, cobbling and a salesperson of candy at a counter, this was her -- anything i can do could compete with that, i can put words together and pictures together a little bit. but maybe it came from that on some pr