eva kovak says this risks dividing the world into 2 tears. the spring in august into the shall we have joining us from addis ababa john and kanga song director of the african centers for disease control and prevention in abilene in italy, gloria tele, jani, professor of infectious diseases. at last, at the end, the university of rome and in london, max lawson, head of inequality policy at oxfam international war. welcome to all, if i could start with gloria in italy. so why is the e u in excluding some vaccines like covey shield, which is, of course, just the variant of astrazeneca made in india. well, the question is very interesting because really don't know exactly what, what the research apparently the declare ation of the email a 5 to the email conversation was that the maggie factory where the vaccine is going to be produced is not perfectly adequate production of this kind of acts, you know, at least it's not been certificated in a proper way, does not like to jump in. does that suggest that the vaccines are not effective? well, this i