evans is acting entirely on his own. in the reunions, i heard of range of opinions about this life or death decision. some of the guys were not happy to be carried toward the enemy like this. that is the thing about the navy. it is not like an infantry platoon. you don't have any choice but where the captain chooses to steer. the carriers get about 25 minutes to get their planes aloft before they have to turn out of the wind in favor of an escape course to the south. the pilots airborne are armed for troop support not for attacking ships. they have tried bombs, 50 caliber ammunition, and no heavy ordinance. no armor pierces. with no time to form up, they rendezvous as best they can and set off after the fleet. within minutes, they are on top of their targets. evans is charging the japanese alone at 30 knots. he will have to cross several miles of shell toward ocean under fire from cruisers, battleships, the works, before he can do anything with his own five-inch battery. the range is about 18,000 yards. it is the torpedo

would never see evans again. johnson ours now, the has waged an effort to keep the ice admiral's ships from overtaking the carriers but now nothing remains to be done. japanese heavy cruisers are off theerge of pinching southern flight. was omething extraordinary about to happen. admiral creda is in the midst of a deep fatigue. he's been in combat 72 hours straight. on, they e goes intensify, she starts to get her loaded with armor-piercing bombs and the torpedos laying two cruisers.o 9:00 approaches, two of the cruises are dead in the water sinking. the victims of air attack and surface-air attack both it seems. relentlessly by the pie lotses who straf, circle around, straf circleout of ammunition, around, make more dummy runs. the dummy runs force the captains to change force, compromising their speed and pursuit through course changes. japanese commanders are exaggerating the size of the destroyers, s, cruisers, jeep carriers, or fleet carriers. the hull and the bay are down. roberts soon to follow. johnson, d

good morning, evan. >> good morning, john. there's no doubt this is going to be a really ugly day for the cia. this report has been fought over for years now. for the last few months the cia has been working with the white house and with the senate to try to decide what to release in this report. the findings are going to be really ugly in the sense that we're going to learn a lot more about what went on in this program. we know for a fact that there's going to be more information about the detainees, what they were subjected to. we also know that the report will portray the cia as going beyond what the methods that were authorized by memos that were done by the justice department and that it misled, according to the democrats who did this report, that it misled the justice department, misled the white house, and misled congress about what it was doing with the detainees. we expect we'll get details about detainee deaths that occurred while if this program and overall it's going to portray the cia as mismanaging this program a

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rowlie evans? >> i'm bad on remembering those years. >> how long had he been retired from writing the column? >> he'd been retired about five years. he retired from the column after 30 years. >> 1993? >> 1993. i think he died about 1998. in the book is about your four cancers. why do you tell us that, and what are the four? >> i had prostate cancer, lung cancer, a cancer on one kidney -- all removed. and i currently have a growth on the other kidney that appears to be a cancer, but it's not growing. >> you tell the story about the whole business of the cancer -- there had been the kidney operation, when you went out to california. >> on the lung cancer. that was my second cancer. a very good doctor at johns hopkins, where they had removed my prostate cancer -- had a regimen that looked like it wasn't going to be -- it was going to be very painful. i'd be laid up for a long time. bob mccandless, who was a lobbyist in town and a great friend of mine, had represented transamerica. and one of their doc

evan, what can you tell us?pens in these situations, there's a lot of conflicting information early on in this case, as well. the police are indicating that they believe the shooting actually happened outside of the school. i know you just said, i think the fire department said they transported three people from the scene. and they believe that the shooting -- they were shot inside the school. we'll have to wait a little while for these details to be clarified by the police. we know that the suspect -- the person who was believed to carry out the shooting has fled the scene and the police are now preparing to provide a little more detail on who they're looking for. we know that they have now alerted the federal authorities who are now heading to the scene. i've talked to people who say the atf is heading to the scene and i expect that the fbi is as well because as they -- that tends to happen in these cases. the feds come in to try to provide any assistance that the local police may need, including trying to fig

joining us here in studio are justice correspondent evan perez. evan? the statement from the fbi reads as follows: "the fbi now has enough information to conclude that the north korean government is responsible for these actions." this is the hack against sony pictures. they say that they did some technical analysis of the malware that was used, the software that was used to infect the computer systems at sony and they found that this was malware that the fbi has previously seen used by the north korean government. they say that, for example, the fbi found encryption algorithms, code, data that was included in the malware code that was telltale signs that it came from north korea. things they've seen before. they say that they tracked all of this traffic that the -- that was used, again, to attack the sony computer systems and it tracked right back to north korea. >> initially when this first happened a lot of voices were saying that it was likely north korea. it has taken time. we have heard that the white house and officials and the government was goi

do we have evan yet? >> yes, we do. >> i hear evan. i hear you.out this hostage taker? >> right now we were told he's somebody that's well known to australian law enforce. u.s. law enforcement had him on the radar. he has quite a bit of history down in australia. he faced sexual offense charges. he's faced an accessory to murder charge. he's been well known to law enforce. down there. it's not known whether or not he has any actual ties to terrorist groups. he seems to be active or was on twitter and other social media declaring he had allegiance to or supported isis. he does seem to have been rallying against the u.s. coalition conducting air strikes against isis. it's not clear whether or not this is part of any larger plot carol because at this point law enforcement both here and in australia believe he is acting alone. >> so tom, what do you make of this? >> hi carol. i make of it that anybody can do this in any of these countries, ours included. australia, canada, anywhere they want. if it takes one person with a gun or machete to take over a

our evan perez has news this morning about the status of that investigation. evan? >> you know, the problem with bringing charges related to that video is simply that it's not clear that anyone who was within earshot of him went out and burned anything down. so that's the reason why i'm told by law enforcement officials that this is likely not to go anywhere. you have to also wonder what's at play here. this issue has become a little politicized and so you have the ferguson police chief goes on fox news and says that he's going to investigate this after the lieutenant governor down there, republican also, had brought this issue up. so what you see is perhaps what's happening in ferguson getting politicized and the police chief decided he was going to make a mention of this as a way to respond to all of this. people down there have just had enough. they think that -- they'd like to quiet it down, bring peace rather than inflame things and that's not what the chief has done. >> and, mel, we spoke about this yesterday, about the timing of this, of just how ill-timed, m

we're joined by evan perez. hackers stealing the credentials oh of a top sony administrator. also with us, fran townsend, tom fuentes, and our cnn political commentator and contributing editor to atlanta media, peter beinart. evan, a lot of people are ask why the u.s. government can't do something to prevent these kinds of signer attacks instead of relying on companies to defend themselves. what's going on over here? >> wolf, that's the problem with the united states, obviously. it's a free country. the internet is open. it's not like a lot of foreign countries, especially north korea, which tightly controls everything that goes on there. so the u.s. has a system in which you have a couple of agencies, the homeland security department and the nsa, which are responsible for protecting government and military websites. bull companies are on their own unless they are critical infrastructure companies, companies that control the power grid for instance, wolf. so a movie studio is not something that the government ca

carter evans, cbs news, los angeles. >> that is the cbs evening news tonight. later on cbs 60 minutes and first thing tomorrow, cbs this morning. and don't forget our digital network, cbsn. i'm jeff glor, scott pelley will be here tomorrow. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org shatter the windows of this francisco restaurant. tonig: the racial remark -- witness say set it all off. the latest round of rain has moved on through the bay ar. but tonight: the weather is still making a mess of the holiday travel rush. and how low will they go? t big reason california drive are getting such a deal on and -- why it won't last lo. kpix 5 news is next. lots of shattered glass. (bt to) for over 60,000 california foster children, the holidays can be an especially difficult time. to help, sleep train is holding a secret santa toy drive. bring your gift to any sleep train, tag: mattress discounters good deed dogs is raising money to help train assistance dogs for wounded veterans. we need your help to do more. give a

my son evan was about love. he wrote this campaign speech, a class assignment, one of his last class assignments. and one of the things he said in the campaign speech is, i would tell those who bring harm to others, to go to church. >>> next on "lockup raw: killers among us" -- >> i think the greatest fear the public should have is some of us are going home. >> a freed convict commits murder on the outside, and then again back on the inside. >> i held him in a choke hold and my friend started hitting him, beating him up. >>> we've heard the warnings from prison staff. >> they're going to come back to our communities. they're going to go back and live next to you or him or me. i want to make sure i've done everything i can so when he does live next to me, i can worry about asking him to turn his music down, maybe share a 40 with me, have a barbecue but not whether or not he's hiding automatic weapons. >> we've also heard the warnings from inmates. >> i think the greatest fear the public should have is some of the

as evan knows, the justice department has said we'll take a pass on that. the white house is also not saying whether or not those tactics even worked which is sort of a silence is acquiescence situation because, as you point out, the cia director, john brennan who will be answering questions later this afternoon has said on the cia website in a statement he believes those tactics did save lives and prevent attacked. at this point the white house posture has not changed on that. i think a lot of people at the white house will be watching and waiting to see what john brennan has to say later this afternoon. >> one person who is already talking quite a lot is former vice president dick chain nay on fox news. let's listen to what he has to say. >> what happened is we asked the agency to go take steps and put in place programs that were designed to catch the bastards who killed 3,000 of us on 9/11 and make sure it didn't happen again. that's exactly what they did. they deserve a lot of credit, not the condemnation they're receiving from the senate democrats. >>

my son evan was about love. he wrote this campaign speech, a class assignment, one of his last class assignments. and one of the things he said in the campaign speech is, i would tell those who bring harm to others, to go to church. >>> next on "lockup raw: killers among us" -- >> i think the greatest fear the public should have is some of us are going home. >> a freed convict commits murder on the outside, and then again back on the inside. >> i held him in a choke hold and my friend started hitting him, beating him up. so you're looking for a loan? how's your credit? i know i have an 810 fico score, thanks to the tools and help on experian.com. and your big idea is hot dogs shaped like hamburgers? nope. hamburgers shaped like hot dogs. that's not really in our wheelhouse... you don't put it in a wheelhouse. you put it in your mouth. get your credit swagger on. become a member of experian credit tracker and find out your fico score powered by experian. fico scores are used in 90% of credit decisions. esurwhich

i think evan is doing a great job. >> can evan mature into a rockstar ceo? >> i think so.is interesting because he has had some issues, and other people we have worked with have. one of the things we try to do is we want to be a partner with the entrepreneur over a long time. i think there is a growing trend in silicon valley that i'm not a fan of, which is trial by social media. our job is to help them through situations like that, not abandon them even though the press is pounding them. evan in particular is a special person. he has a keen sense of product features that matter to his constituency that i think has been a common trait among some of the most successful entrepreneurs. >> is there more or less in silicon valley than there was before? >> there is probably more than 1999. and i think people have learned from 1999. even though a lot of the young entrepreneurs today were not around, there are still lessons learned. >> how do you make sure that you are getting into the next snapchat, the next uber? >> we have to hold ourselves accountable. one of the things that d

evan is doing a great job. >> can evan spiegel mature into a rockstar ceo? >> i think so.s said -- he has had some issues, but one of the things that benchmark truly strive to differentiate ourselves around is we want to be a partner to , the entrepreneur for a very long time. i think there is a growing trend in silicon valley which i am not a fan of, which is trial by social media. our job is to help these people through situations. not to abandon them. even though the press sometimes -- how can you? evan in particular is a very special person. he has a very keen sense of product features that matter to his constituency, which is a common trait among some of the most successful entrepreneurs. >> is there more or less arrogance in silicon valley than there was before? >> there was probably more in 1999. >> back then? >> yeah. people have learned from 1999. even though a lot of young entrepreneurs today were not around, there are still lessons to learn. >> how do you make sure you are getting to the next snapchat, the next uber? >> one thing that differentiates us from ever

. >> joyce evans shows us how to figure all that out. >>> i would say a good like 75 to 80% of the day'm kind of in my office. >> designing fabric for high-end department stores and hotels barely leaving her desk. even for lunch. >> i'll just grab something and take it to my desk and eat it. >> rapidly packing on the pounds and more. >> like i wasn't handling stress in the best way that i could. >> enough to send people running to the gym but lindsay baker found out something far more alarming. >> looks good. >> than the number on her scale. >> my fitness age starting out was 47. i'm 31 years old. >> wow! >> yeah. so pretty big difference there. ♪ >> so what she's talking about is her real age. what's called her health or fitness age. how old she is here biologically versus her 31 birthdays. >> her fitness age at that time was 47 which was crazy to me. sean married yet. she didn't even have children yet. >> five, don't forget to breat breathe. >> fit niece guru danielle wasted tonight. tayloring her exercise, nutrition and more. >> she had some hard road ahead of her as far as keeping

ana navarro, evan perez, thank you so much. in just a few minutes, the president of the united states will speak in the cabinet room and announce these major changes in the relationship between the united states and cuba. the biggest changes, i think, that we have seen in well over 50 years since the embargo and a series of other measures were imposed over time. joining us is wolf blitzer. wolf is going to cover the president's speech when it takes place just after noon. i wonder if you can put this in context, wolf. the historical impact of this in this country and in cuba and what this means? >> it's an historic moment. this is a most significant development in u.s./cuban relations going back to the revolution and cuba back in 1961. it's been clear to me from the very start of the obama administration this is precisely what the president wanted to do. he wanted to normalize relations, establish full diplomatic relations between the united states and cuba. as cuba, by the way, has with i think all of the countries in north and

. >> joins us our justice reporter evan perez. evan, clearly, when the administration says it's about to name north korea as the sponsor of this attack, that's a very, very big deal. >> it's a big deal because they don't do this very likely. this is not something that happens usually this quickly. we're talking about an attack that just happened a few months ago. there was a case recently in the last few months in which the u.s. accused china, the people's liberation army and a unit there of launching attacks against u.s. companies to steal economic secrets. here we're talking about north korea essentially censuring the united states movie industry. and that has really big implications. this is not something that even our government is able to do. >> it was already used to censuring their own activities, but now they've reached outside of their borders. it's interesting because we're used to a fair amount of bluster and often idol threats from north korea. does this seem because it's in the cyber realm, this is something more gray

williams high school in alexandria, virginia: rona ikram putri, evan williams, and shayla brown. their teacher, mark eaton, also joins us. first, here's a clip of one of their entries, to give you one idea of how young people view the news: derek jeter! (cheers and applause) ♪ >> the first patient diagnosed with ebola in the united states has died of ebola in a dallas hospital. >> woodruff: so evan williams lets start with you, that was a clip from your video. how did you decide what were the most important stories, how did you put that together? >> i kind of think of stories that have the most impact so a good way to measure that is something that became a household discussion, like a universal discussion, for example the ebola outbreak everyone was talking about that, the world cup, everyone was talking about that. >> woodruff: now shayla, shayla brown, how did you decide what were the most important stories? >> our journalism class made a list of the huge stories of 2014, so i used this and i did research like evan did and my mom helped me with the project a lot too so i got a

a team of volunteers decorated the evans family home with christmas decorations. "eyewitness news" was there on the 300 block of prince frederick street in king of prussia. all of this was made possible by christmas decors decorate a family program. that company is saluting william evans who suffered a traumatic brain injury while fighting overseas. >> a little overwhelming i guess. it's definitely a surprise and i'm thankful for the companies that were involved in making it happen. >> evans served in the army for 14 years. >>> well, we invite you to join us tomorrow for the joy of sharing campaign. we'll be collecting new unwrapped toys live on our air starting at 6:00 a.m. you can drop off those toys here at our studio at 1555 hamilton street in philadelphia and we'll be out there all day from 6:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. for a list of other drop-off locations just led to cbsphilly.com/joy or call 215-977-joys. >>> and we also invite you to join us for a long wood christmas. tune in tomorrow night at 7:30 on cbs3. jessica and i are at longwood gardens for our long

can you get into that for us, evan? >> well, last night our time, as this was going down, one of the first thing has happened was an effort to make sure that u.s. personnel -- because the u.s. consulate is just a block or so away from this cafe so that was the first thing. secondly, they were very concerned about whether there might be u.s. citizens either in the cafe being held hostage. we still don't know whether or not any u.s. citizens were involved there there but obviously this is a big tourist destination, it's summer down there, it's a big travel season for american tourists, so that was one of the big concerns. and they've been warned, carol, the u.s. consulate there in sydney has warned people to make sure they are aware of their surroundings, to make sure they take their own personal security in mind, don't go anywhere where you might -- where something bad can happen. >>> a final question to you, fofo floria. we only hear about the lone wolfes that are quote/unquote successful. but tell us about the ones tha

. >> i'm evan smith, he's the coolest astrophysicist in the universe, the director director of hayden planetarium. dr. neil degrasse tyson, this is overheard. >> actually, there are not two sides to every issue. >> i guess you can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. might win an emmy. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. it's hard work and controversial. >> window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes until 11:00. [laughter]. >> dr. tyson, welcome. >> thanks. my first time. >> it's wonderful to have you here, the coolest guy in the

carter evans cbs news, los angeles. >> jeff: here in the u.s. at least five are dead after a fire broke out at a senior living center near san antonio, texas. dozens were evacuated. many had to be helped out of that 11 story building. several others were hurt. the cause of that fire is under investigation tonight. the commissioner of new york city's police department had strong words today about officers who turned their backs on mayor bill de blasio at the funeral for a fallen colleague yesterday. don dahler has more on the rift between new york's mayor and the nation's largest police force. >> tens of thousands of police officers attended yesterday's funeral. but it was in action by a few hundred that still has people talking. as mayor bill de blasio took to the podium -- >> all of the city is grieving. >> cops gathered outside turned their backs on the large television monitor. on "face the nation" this morning, new york police commissioner bill braden expressed his disappointment. >> that funeral was held to honor officer ramos and to bring

it just doesn't add up. >> evan, a question for you.t take what norse was saying seriously, why did it meet with norse? >> well they meet with everybody who says -- they call them up and they say we have information about a possible crime, possible information about a crime so it's not unusual with them to meet with anyone who says they have information about a case. and that's what they did here. >> mark, and evenan brought this up before is it possible the north is doing this for publicity purposes? other cyber security firms have their own theories one said it's rush that shah not north korea. >> well first of all, the problem with the crazy north korea theory is then everything points to north korea. anything that indicates it wasn't north korea just proves that it was north korea because, after all, they're crazy. huff to look at the forensics and the evidence and, again you have to look at it with a neutral eye. sure norse is getting publicity out of this but really what you need is a public/private cooperation where people share

. >> i'm evan smith, he's a comedian and actor who spent nine years on saturday night live, including three as the anchor of weekend updates and seven seasons in the cast of the showtime series "weeds." he's kevin nealon, this is overheard. >> i guess we can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. [laughter]. >> it would be nice that i win an emmy. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream, it's hard work and it's controversial. >> without information, there's no freedom, and it's journalist who's provides that information. >> window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes till 11:00. [laughter]. >> kevin nealon, hello. >> hello. >> thank you for being here. >> we've caught you here in the middle of tour, you do a fair amount of standup touring.

you've heard the news, evan reported it. the u.s.th korea did it, they're responsible. your reaction? >> bureau 121 obviously was determined in it. that is the elite bureau dedicating to hacking. >> in north korea? >> in north korea. but we have to remember, wolf, they're also good at hacking into infrastructure. the energy grid. there is a lot of infrastructure at risk here. one of the things we did do in congress, you know, just in the last 24 hours, congress timely got out those last four cyber security pieces of legislation. now i hope we move instantly to protecting the grid. but secondarily, i hope we take a look again at what we could do to keep north korea out of the financial system bypassing the types of sanctions we once slapped on them, which almost imploded the regime. >> have you heard from u.s. officials the same thing that evan perez has heard, that north korea didn't? >> what i have heard are concerns or what have i heard from u.s. officials is that this was done by a foreign government at the behest of a foreign gov

>> you heard steve evans say repeatedly we don't know, we don't know. what has happened over the last week is intense examination really of the fingerprints of that attack on sony, and what was eventually concluded was that it bore the same fingerprints as those attacks we were hearing about on south korean banks and television stations last year, and that's what's led to this conclusion that it is north korea involved. >> can the fingerprints, for example, be laid there in order to point in one direction even if they're not? >> well, they could be. what we're talking about is methods of attack. it's very difficult ever to pin down -- unless somebody cops out and reveals themselves, it almost never happens that you are able to say person x, country x actually did this. but you can have a high level of suspicion and you can look at past patterns of behavior. and we do know that north korea has developed -- we know from defectors and so on that it has developed quite a sophisticated level of cyber warfare. particularly strange in a country where, you know

. >> a team of volunteers placed christmas decorations on the home of the evans family today. "eyewitness news" at the 300 block of prince fred kick street in king of prussia. christmas decors decorated family program is behind the effort to honor william evans who suffered a traumatic brain injury while fighting overseas. >> a little overwhelming, i guess. it's definitely a surprise. i'm thankful for the company that is were involved in making it happen. >> evans served in the army for 14 years. >>> well new jersey governor chris christie takes to talk radio defending his public show of support for the dallas cowboys. >> cowboys come back and you're high fiving jerry jones and his family. >> yeah. >> governor, i was going nuts. i wanted to take my vote back. >> listen, angelo, i've been on your program. we talk about the fact i was a cowboys fan. what did you thing i was going to do, sit there likes a shrinks. this is my team. this is the team i root for. >> governor christie tells wip he has no regrets about rooting again eagles in sunday's game at the linc. he said he'll be

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carter evans on the continuing fallout from the sony hack attack. dean reynolds goes inside a farm of the future where greens grow year round without sunlight or pesticides. >> we're making nature better. >> good morning. >> axelrod: and a bridge to the past. kristine johnson visits an historic, privately owned span frozen in time. >> have a nice day, okay? captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news." >> axelrod: good evening. i'm jim axelrod. this is our western edition. it was a stirring sight this morning. law enforcement officers from every part of the continent traveled to new york city, filling the streets and standing together outside the funeral service for n.y.p.d. officer rafael ramos. it has now been a week since ramos and officer wenjian liu were ambushed and killed by a gunman who posted threats to kill cops on social media. a week that has seen tensions spike in a city that was already embroiled in protest and debate over police and race relations when the two officers were killed. but, as mark albert reports, at the fun

thank you. >> i'm evan smith. she's an acclaimed author whose 6 novels have been new york times best sellers, "the joy luck club," "the kitchen god's wife" and the valley o of"thevalley of amazem" this is amy tan and over terd. >> i guess we can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. [laughter]. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. it's hard work, and it's controversial. >> got information, and it's journalistic pride. >> when the god -- when he says, goes to 11th. [laughter]. [music]. >> amy tan, welcome. >> good to be here. >> so nice to meet you. congratulations, this book, what a great book. >> thank you. >> epic in every way and so much like your other books and yet so different. >> different, yeah. >> that's what we'll talk about. eight years or more in the making. it's eight years since the last book. i suppose this book probably took longer than that took, right? >> you know, i actually wrote another book, so this -- for all purposes took -- >> another kind of book. >> another