i'm joined right now on the phone by evan allen of "the boston globe." evan, with a welcome to you, tell me what you're seeing and where you are. >> reporter: sure. i'm the aan entrance point to the rally itself so i'm surrounded for people who came for the freedom rally and my counterprotesters. as you can probably hear there's a lot of chanting, there's drumming and a lot of yelling. >> by my understanding there, are you there at the epicenter where everything is converging and coming together? this is the area that police are most concerned about? >> reporter: i would say it's certainly one of those areas. i'm not sure how many entrances there are to the grandstands, but there's certainly a heavy presence here right now. police are lined up inside of the fence area. they're also doing very thorough patdowns for every person they allow to the band stand where the rally itself is happening. and they're allowing people in very slowly, just one by one. they're checking under people's hats, in their cigarette boxes, turning out pockets, very heavy security

we were talking with evan allen from "the boston globe" who's at one of these checkpoints and evan was telling us people are being let in literally one by one to this area. when you look at 20,000 people, obviously not everybody is going to get into the actual rally itself unless things get out of control. but they are searching people, they are -- she said they are making sure people turn out their pockets. you can't bring back packs. there's nothing. i'm looking at the boston pd release for the kinds of things that are prohibited. firearms, knives, weapons, sharp on jekts, shields, fireworks, pop-up tents, canopies, cans, glass containers. premixed beverages, wagons, pull carts, coolers. the list goes on and on and on. so they want nobody in this area with anybody other than their person and their clothing, that is it. so to your point, it will hopefully make a considerable difference should things escalate into actually greater than war of words. >> right, alex, exactly. sometimes we have state legislatures that work against the police. you know, they enact laws that are hard for th

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