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cnn's evan perez has been talking to his sources. apparently you've learned one person is in custody? >> reporter: that's right, jake. we're told by law enforcement sources that at least they believe that the person is the one that carried out the shooting but still very early in the investigation and going room by room, floor by floor by and make sure no one else is there. that person is in custody. we're tloeld we're told there's multiple people wounded. there inside the newsroom of "capital gazette" and they believe that includes some fatalities. so again, multiple wounded including some fatalities inside the newsroom of this small newspaper there in annapolis. again, this is very early from the information from the scene there. law enforcement is still obviously trying to figure out exactly -- get control of the situation. you can see from the pictures some people are being led out of building. clearly they believe it's safe enough to bring the people out. that helps underscore the likelihood that they believe they have got some

evan perez said that his sources are telling him that the suspect is not cooperating. law enforcement said that he was being interrogated. but evan's sources say he is not cooperating. he didn't have an i.d. on him. i was wondering how common is that? >> well, you know, again, motive's key here. the fact that the suspect is alive, you know, after the end of this situation is unique. doesn't seem to be a suicide by cop situation. but the fact that he had no identifiable, you know, paperwork on him, license, passport, whatever, is a little bit disturbing. law enforcement does have their ways to trace fingerprints. hopefully he'll start talking or the attorney will be able to provide some information. >> jonathan, you said it was disturbing he didn't have any identification on him. why? >> well, it's just, again, you know, if i'm on a suicide mission, i may not want to identify who i am so i'm going to go in without any type of identification, no wedding ring, no identifiable markings, no license or wallet or anything like that. you know? to try to just focus on that incid

to be mistaken for poppy, i'm down with it, evan perez. i like giving he ining him a ha too, poppy. >> i was, like, does he think he's sitting next to me? we love you, evan. thank you for the reporting. >>> joining me now, robby mook, alice stewart, cnn political commentator and former ted cruz communications director and susan hennessey, our cnn national security and legal analyst, thank you, one and all for being here and susan, i have to begin with you on what is going on here with manafort and the fact that mueller's team is trying to throw him in jail before his trial because of these serious allegations with trying to tamper with two here is what congressman adam shift said last night to chris cuomo, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee. >> special counsel team is not going to do thishey haretty darn clad evidence that manafort is trying to essentially corrupt or co-opt these witnesses. it is a big development and i think a sign that manafort is willing to try anything, do anything and he's facing some serious time

evan perez is our senior justice correspondent, standing by. the question is, does he know that manafort was tampering with witnesses? >> right, brooke. look, the judge today made it clear the hearing today was not about politics. as a matter of fact, she seemed to be addressing the president, other people not in her courtroom. she says this hearing is not about politics, it's not about the conduct of the special counsel, and she was trying to put the attention squarely back on paul manafort, because the allegations are pretty serious. according to the government, paul manafort for about five weeks was reaching out to people who were going to be witnesses in this case, people who once they figured out what he was trying to do, according to the government, reached out to the fbi to report what they were being told, and what they said was essentially being encouraged to perjure themselves before special counsel. so this is the reason why the prosecutors today said that he was a danger to the community. they said that he deserved to go back to jai

as you know, evan perez is reporting that the shotgun was recovered. that's the weapon that's believed to have been used but i think at this point right now and we hope to hear more from this press conference any moment now and whether or not police at the very least to identify who this gunman is and try to work off of that in terms of trying to get to a motive here. was this someone here who was a former employee? current employee? was this someone who was angry perhaps about coverage? was there something in a story that upset this person? and therefore, they came in and opened fire on the journalists here, on the workers here. certainly all of that is something that police want to know and it's pretty difficult if you can't identify the suspect to really try and determine a motive and certainly when someone's not cooperating obviously, wolf, that would create issues for police, as well. >> yeah. certainly a lot to investigate right now. jim acosta, i understand the president is briefed. >> that's right. the white house said the president was briefed

evan perez is "outfront" live in washington. you are learning, as everything we now know about this individual, what is that? >> erin, one of the things that police had trouble with was the fact that he didn't have identification, he was not being cooperative, would not tell them who he was. it appears that they used other means to identify who he is. one of the first things they did is they put his fingers through a reading machine, a fingerprint reading machine that they have on the scene. the fbi agents that were on the scene helping the anne arundel county police. it came back with no fingerprints. it came back with no hits. and so the question became, why is that? we're told that it appears that his fingerprints were altered in some way. perhaps he guyed them off, perhaps he put something on them so that when he was arrested, when he was taken into custody, police were not able to use his fingerprints to be able to identify him. so that's one of the troubles that police had. it appears that they have now been able to bridge

evan perez is joining us. the president tweets he could pardon himself and the special counsel appointment is unconstitutional. are those arguments part of the legal team strategy? >> look, i think the pardoning yourself argument is not going to be one that they're going to pursue very much longer. i think rudy giuliani sort of got himself into a corner there that i think even the rest of the legal team is willing to pursue but the question of whether or not the mueller investigation is constitutional, i think we'll see that surface again, especially if they can't reach a deal with regard to a voluntary interview with the special counsel, whether the president has to sit down with him and the special counsel has to resort to a subpoena, we may yet see that argument. and let's keep in mind, paul manafort's lawyer, the former chairman for the trump campaigns whole idea that mueller was -- he was illegally appointed by rod rosenstein and one judge has ruled that is not true. >> and the january 29th letter -- 20-p

evan perez, what are your biggest takeaways? >> i think the most important point that the inspector general makes is really addressing the criticism that has been coming from the president, from a lot of republicans in congress, which was that this investigation was done in a politically biased manner, that she should have been charged, hillary clinton should have been charged and she wasn't because there was interference, political interference in the way this investigation was done and the inspector general found that that is not so. at least there's no evidence of that. and you just pointed to the key quote in there where they said they have found no evidence that the conclusions of the prosecutors. i but you also pointed out these key text messages by a couple of people who were fbi employees, and i think it's going to be the thing that the president and other people are going to focus on because it does open up and i think the inspector general even says this in his report, he says that these text messages and a lot of othe

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cnn chief justice correspondent evan perez sat the courthouse today. evan, take us through the arguments this morning and the outcome here. >> reporter: well, jim, it was a very extraordinary hearing, obviously, because the government came in saying that paul manafort is a danger to the community. they said that he had a sustained campaign over five weeks in which he was trying to reach out to potential witnesses in this case and trying to coach them on what to say and essentially committing perjury before this trial. he's due to go on trial here in september in the court here in d.c., and he's got another set of charges that he's facing across -- in virginia, in alexandria, virginia, another federal case over there. so he's got two trials coming up, and until those trials get started, he's going to be sitting in jail. the judge said that she struggled with her decision. she took a 50-minute break after the arguments between the prosecution and the defense. she said, this is not middle school, i cannot take his cell phone. she also said there was really

in the meantime, let's bring our crime and justice reporter, evan perez. he got a little defensive at some points about the questioning of his own political party. >> john, this is a man -- rod rosenstein is someone who i have known probably close to a decade, and i've never seen him so fiery and so passionate, really, because he was coming under personal attack. again, as you mentioned, the fact he is a trump appointee. he's a lifelong republican. christopher wray, the fbi director, is the same. he's a republican who served in the bush administration. i knew him then when he was in the criminal division at the justice department, and now he even made a joke saying he didn't know in the first ten months of being on this job that he would be staring down the barrel of a contempt citation, because that's what the republican members of congress, at least some of them, are saying needs to be done. but i think part of the issue here is that members of congress have an expectation that they are -- they're frankly moving the goalpost, right? they have produced, a

let's go to evan perez. tell us more about this ruling. >> reporter: this is a ruling by a judge in virginia who had criticized the special counsel just a month ago when paul manafort and his lawyers came forward asking for this -- for the bank fraud charges and other financial crime charges to be dismissed saying it has nothing do with the russia interference with the election and nothing to do with his work on the trump campaign. if you remember, president trump really liked what the judge had to say then. take a listen to what he had to say. >> a federal judge friday questioned special counsel robert mueller's authority to bring tax and bank fraud charges, unrelated -- unrelated. nobody knows that. everyone thinks that -- unrelated to the 2016 election against former trump campaign manager chairman paul manafort. he was there for a short while. he is a good person. i believe he's a good person. the judge, who is really something very special i hear from many standpoints. he is a respected person. suggeste

evan perez, all that reporting and "outfront" now, former substantiate u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. laura coates and patrick healy. thanks to all. harry, you heard the reporting. trump allies are afraid cohen could flip at any moment. some are very afraid. one said looking at the epd of a barrel. this could be imminent. is there a deadline on him fl >> there's no deadline on him flipping, but there's a difference between whether you cooperate before inindictments or after assuming he is to be indicted. to cooperate before red better inindictmeninindictmendictment. it's a little less stressful than being indicted. having to be arain raigned. so if we assume that the government had evidence to get the search warrant, we can assume they had enough to p indict thim hill. >> imminent would be ir. >> yeah, conceivably, the next four to six wee maybe. >> so what cohen is clearly afraid here, he's sources telling cnn he's fully aware. at this point, that he could be. when you're facinhat he's facing, there's reason for team trump to be worried

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let's bring in our justin correspondent evan perez.cusing the special counsel's office of trying to frame the president of the united states. >> this is part of the campaign by rudy giuliani to portray the mueller investigation as one that's tainted by politics, by the fact that there are people who they say are democrats on the mueller team who are investigating the president. the president's lawyer was in israel in tel-aviv yesterday. here are some comments he had to say about the mueller team. >> they are a group of 13 highly partisan democrats that make up the mueller team, excluding him, are trying very, very hard to frame him, to get him in trouble when he hasn't done anything wrong. they can't emotionally come to grips with the fact that this whole thing of russian collusion didn't happen, right? they're trying to invent theories of obstruction of justice. the president fired the fbi director. the president has the right to fire the fbi director. the president should have fired a fbi director he was a terrible fbi director. >> t

evan perez has all the details for us this morning. o speed on this one. >> that's right, erica. prosecutors want a judge to consider revoking paul manafort's bail for what they say were multiple attempts to get witnesses to lie in his case. manafort is the former trump campaign chairman and he's awaiting trial here in washington and in virginia, federal court, on financial crime charges. the special counsel robert mueller said in court filgs in washington last night that manafort used encrypted what's app messages to try to encourage witnesses to perjure themselves in the on going investigation into russian meddling in the 2016 elections. prosecutors cited contacts on manafort allegedly made including some in late february when manafort, quote, repeatedly contacted two unnamed people who may be witnees against him. and those people had previously assisted in the lobbying and public relations work that manafort was doing here in the united states and in europe on behalf of the pro russian government at the time in ukraine. now, manafort

cnn's evan perez outside the courthouse with this dramatic move. evan, take us inside the courtroom. why did the judge agree with the prosecutors? >> reporter: john, the judge said she struggled with this decision, but she said really what paul manafort was doing represented harm to the integrity of the system of justice, the system of justice where he is about to face trial in september here in washington. so she decided that there was nothing she could do but revoke his bail. he's been out on bond for $10 million bond and he's been wearing ankle bracelets on each leg for charges here in washington as well as charges that he's facing over in alexandria, virginia. he's facing trial over there in july. so for now, paul manafort is going to be in jail. he was led out of the courtroom by the u.s. martials. they came back into the courtroom and gave his wife his wallet, his personal possessions, and now he's going to be sitting in jail, at least until he goes on trial here in washington. the government made the case, john, that -- they said, quote, mana

let's go straight to evan perez with more color from inside the courtroom. evan, i know the judge was tough. she said this case has no room for politics and she has, quote, no appetite for this. tell me about what she decided. >> right, exactly, brooke. and when paul manafort walked in and he was going through those shouts, i was just ahead of him in the line of security to get into the courthouse, and he had this smirk on his face. you could tell that he did not expect that this is the way his day was going to end, with him being led away with u.s. marshals. and look, the judge really was struggling with this decision. she said she had the prosecutors and the defense make their respective arguments, and then she took a 15-minute break and then came back and rendered her decision. everyone was very, very surprised. she said that this was about the integrity of the court system, and really she said that there was no way she could think of crafting any other kind of order that could cover all the possible violations that paul manafort could commit. she said he

. >>> and let's bring in evan perez doingting on this. michael cohen is not met with prosecutors, at least not yet. but what would they want to ask him and what do we know? >> what we know, is that this is an investigation right now that is focusing on michael cohen's business past, certainly the -- his ownership of taxi medallions which used to be a lucrative business in new york. but don't -- let's not forget this is the president's fixer. this is the person who has been so close to the president. he's known a lot of intimate details about president's business over the past few years. so there is a lot of information that he has and this is why you see -- as brin just mentioned, people close to the president has been frankly freaked out and wondering whatctly is on cohen's mind and whether or t there is something here that could bring danger to the eside >> he's been with the president for a decade. that i know. what would it mean for the president if michael cohen were to flip and cooperate with the feds? >> well, look, i think right n

evan perez, thanks very much. all this is adding up to outrage from some lawmakers.arlier i spoke with democratic senator jeff merkley who's toured a detention center in texas. >> senator, are you clear as to what's happening right now with regards to family reunifications and the current policy on arrests at the border? >> well, i have a fairly clear sense of it, and that is that the president has not laid out a strategy for reuniting the more than 2,300 kids who've been separated from their parents and he's replacing one policy for future families, that is, the family separation policy, that afflicts kids, with another policy that flakts kids, which is handcuffs for all. don't just put the parents in jail. put them all in jail. >> is there any evidence at this point the white house, the justice department, health and human services, and homeland security, they're all on the same page, they're communicating well? >> well, there's a lot of evidence that they're not communicating well. because after we heard the administrator of children and family come out last night

evan perez, thank you for the reporting.to get to the inspector general report, but before that, how long can this drag out between mueller's team, between the president's team. i suppose, i don't know, what is the deadline on this thing? >> it really can drag on until the grand jury investigation has concluded. i mean, on the last day of the grand jury. they could be presented with testimony from the president. and, you know, poppy, doesn't surprise me, though, this dispute between the lawyers and the president. the president thinks he's the world's greatest negotiator. and he views this meeting with mueller as a negotiation, where as the lawyers view it as a very dangerous situation where he could say something that could lead to criminal charges. and i think for some reason they have not been able to get him to understand it is not a negotiation. >> right, he could perjure himself, the argument that don jr. his son was making this morning. let's turn to the inspector general report, a big 500 plus page report, comes out t

. >> evan perez, our justice correspondent, is getting more information on this, specifically, evan, if more criminal charges are likely to emerge from the inspector general's report. >> wolf, i think that's one of the things the president has been pushing for. certainly we have already a criminal referral that has come out of this against andrew mccabe for lying to investigators, and that's the one we still look at by prosecutors in washington. as far as james comey, or perhaps hillary clinton, and you've been hearing from the president in particular, the president is probably going to be disappointed, but i think the president will certainly be able to use some of the findings in this report to claim that he was right to fire james comey, r rod's -- the reason why james had lost confidence in the justice department led to him being fired. there is a lot of prices against comey and other people, i think he's going to be very disappointed when he raeds this report. >> there are apparently some new trance skriblts, there was some personnel who were involved in the investigation which

cnn's justice correspondent evan perez is all over this for us today. you now have this new reporting that this switch may have something entirely to do with the southern district of new york who has been handling this probe. >> that's right, brooke. there appear to be various reasons why this i happening now. there's a deadline on friday for going over 300,000 r them to pages of documents, plus another million items that were turned over as part of this raid. but there's also the matter of the fact that this is an investigation being handled out of the southern district of new york in manhattan. so the law firm that michael cohen has been using is a washington law firm, a very prestigious law firm. they were handling his investigation, his testimony here in congress and as well as the new york investigation, which, as you remember, was at least partly referred or at least partly began as a result of a referral from robert mueller to special counsel. so now they're apparently at a very crucial stage where one person told me they're moving into a new pha

evan perez. thank you with the news on micohen. let's analyz daniel goldman is with me, a former federal prosecutor and so, yes, first solomon, let me just start with you. can you just tick through various reasons why someone, in this case michael cohen, would want to change attorneys. >> well, a couple of things to keep in mind, there as no reaso decided you want to cooperate and go in and deal with the government, perhaps give them something against president trump, there's no inherent reason you need to change your attorneys to do that. it happens all the time. you have an attorney who is fighting and he turns to you and says you know what, the evidence is too strong, we need to deal. i've heard one report that says it a dispute over legal fees so it could be nothing more than that. also keep in mind rod rosenstein told president trump several weeks ago the cohen investigation has nothing to do with you. nevertheless, if michael cohen decide it's in his interest to deal, he might have information about president trump and i don'

evan perez is our senior justice correspondent. evan, you know more about this than most.st takeaway? >> brooke, i think my focus and my interest here is looking at the key period in this report, they're try skrooiidescribing t period in which the fbi had discovered the hundreds of thousands of e-mails on the anthony weiner laptop and the three, almost four weeks it took the fbi do any serious investigative work to look into exactly what these were. that's a key period for all of this investigation, simply because obviously in late october james comey decides to send that letter to congress saying they're now going to take a look at it and investigate what was on the laptop. meanwhile the key people in the fbi, top leaders in the fbi, already knew that there was a lot of information that they needed to take a look at. what this really paints is a terrible picture for the leaders of the fbi because it shows that there's a combination of incompetence. it appears they simply dropped the ball. they had no idea that people underneath them were not doing the work they were suppo

now, evan perez if washington and evan, i want to start with your breaking news here. the legal team when it comes to this you know, saying no way to mueller, feeli ining imbold ed tonight. >> they do because they feel the inspector general's report yesterday from the justice department prothem a lot of ammunition to argue that the president had ever right and he should have fired james comey. they say that according to the inspector jep eor general repor gives the agent in being biased against president, they say these agents and comey himself get a lot of benefit of the doubt so why shouldn't the president. they believe that as a result of this inspector general's report, they can argue to the special counsel there is no obstruction inquiry. no reason for him to sit down with the special counsel because there's nothing to look at here. >> of course. obviously his own reasons were different and this goes beyond obstruction, but that's the argument they're making as you report. what about paul manafort, evan? he's in jail tonight. what do we know about where he is? wha

. >> with me right on now to dissect it is jeff -- and evan perez. >> joan, let me start with you.want your reaction from what we learned about the majority, and why in the end freedom of religion was not really part of this decision. >> let me tell, kate, i've been covering the supreme court for more man 25 years, and these were the most dramatic moments i have ever seen. beginning with john robertsn the center chair, telling people why this is a valid exercise of donald trump's authority over immigration, he starts, and he explains first how this executive order complies with long-standing tradition, until immigration law. then he goes to the establishment cause question that you talk about, about how this isn't a violation of religion. you can't tell he was trying to head off what the dissenting justices were about to say during their time in the courtroom. he said, we're aware -- his mee was we are aware of what donald trump said on the campaign trump, we are aware of what was on the website, aware of what he said it is neutral on -- and explained with more thoroughness that or

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evan perez is joining us. the fbi director just spoke as you heard. how bad does this report make the fbi look? >> it's not a good report for the fbi. i think the most important finding is one that i think christopher wray certainly endorsed and was very happy about, which was that the legitimacy of the clinton e-mail investigation is not affected in the end by some of the conduct, by some of the mistakes, by some of the -- frankly, the bad decision making, by some of the top leaders and by comey and some of the agents that were exchanging these very inappropriate messages. the problem is that even though the investigation was done properly, according to the inspector general, who spent 18 months looking at this very question, the fact that these messages exist and the fact that some of the decisions were made in the way they were made has cast a cloud over the fbi and over this investigation. it's something we will all live with for a long time. >> stand by for a moment. i want to bring in our crime and justice reporter. you were at the fbi. you were

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well that's the crucial question and "outfront" now is our justic r correspondent, evan perez. when you hear this and say he's been cooperating for such a long time, how significant is it that mueller's team is with >> i think it is very signif f. he's been one of the most value valuab witnesses in this invest what this means is that we c expect that there couple shoes to drop. that the special counsel is not yet ready to tell us about. that's reason why they're trying to delay it for 60 days. in thehour, eastern, the b specia counsel and flynn lawyer were trying to tell the judge we can't talk about why it is that we want this delay, but the judge came back in the last hour and said that he wants more of an explanation so he's give ing them a few more day to back to him and pe filing that will be under seal, they'l have to explain to the judge what exactly it is that flynn is doing behind the scenes for th special counsel that requir him to wait another 60 days before he sentencing him. so what this tells us is that there' investigative work being done now. bb mue trying to te

we begin with our justice correspondent evan perez. walk us through these new charges. >> reporter: these new charges represent the latest effort to pile on pressure on paul manafort to make a deal and tell prosecutors what he knows. the former trump campaign chairman is now charged obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct this investigation. and this week we saw prosecutors accuse manafort of witness tam perg and they asked a judge to consider revoking his bail until he goes to trial later this year. he's already facing the possibility of spending the rest of his life in prison if he's found guilty of the charges that he's already facing which are money laundering and other financial crimes and failing to register as a foreign agent. this is all related to work that manafort did before he joined the trump campaign to lobby on behalf of the pro-russian government in ukraine. and manafort is said to contact witnesses to try to get them to lie to prosecutors. manafort has pleaded not guilty to charges he's -- he's facing and he

as my colleague evan perez and others have reported along with talking to some of our sources, there was a connection, and as we've learned police are on the verge of entering an residence while they continue to gather information. that answers that question. the one remaining factor for me is we look at some of the evidence that we've heard, the devices, and obviously the vng who was there walking on the first floor and seeking to take life. it will be interesting to see whornt t whether or not the conclusion that this was targeted was based on that evidence alone or if the subject is cooperating with authorities. we've talked to sources. we've learned at within point he wasn't cooperative. that can change at any time if law enforcement convinced him it's in his best interest to talk. a lot of unanswered questions. we have this issue of social media. that's something the law enforcement officers will look at anyway in a situation trying to determine what are the means someone uses to communicate. the medium may also have been used as a threat will be of interest to law enforcement o

me bring in now, josh campbell, former supervisory agent at the fbi, nia malika henderson, and evan perez, cnn's justice correspondent. evan, i just sent this out as we were watching this whole thing play, there is not even a pretense of decorum anymore. it is straight up hostile between -- just look at jim jordan and the deputy attorney general. i know jim jordan said it wasn't personal but it is hard to think it wasn't. >> you cannot help but think it is personal because here we have the deputy attorney general who is a republican, who is life long republican, who is appointed by president trump, he's, you know, someone who is according to him, trying his best to address the concerns of the members of congress and, by the way, he revealed during his testimony there that they produced 880,000 pages of documents, they got 100 staffers, also brought in, a u.s. attorney to oversee the production of these documents. and he's also saying that they're trying to do this while trying to make sure that it doesn't affect or hurt the ongoing investigation that is being handled by bob mueller. so th

. >> evan perez is with us as well. what impact does this have on the legitimacy of the overall clinton e-mail server investigation. >> i think, wolf, the people at the justice department, people at the fbi who were very concerned about how this would come across have to be relieved that the inspector general went through the step of saying that he found no evidence to support the idea of political bias. i think that's a huge finding for the legitimacy of this investigation because, look, they looked at the facts. the inspector general points out there are things that support the decision, the ultimate decision not to bring charges against hillary clinton that apparently james comey, the former fbi director, didn't even mention when he did his solo press conference in july of 2016 so it's clear this investigation by the view of this inspector general who spent 18 months going over this, he views it as it was done properly. the problem is as laura pointed out, there are things that have created this cloud of impropriety

evan perez is working the story for us. jeffrey toobin is with us as well.er is concerned about how this information could be used? >> that's right. this is a company called concord management. they are fighting back against the special counsel in the charges. they were charged back in february. they are a key part of what the government says russian meddling effort using russian troll farms tied to russian intelligence. as part of this, the government is saying that if they share information, tens of thousands of pieces of data with this company, they are concerned there will be shared with rich sh russian intelligence and they are working to interfere in upcoming elections. that's why they are asking the judge to certainly make sure that this information is not shared beyond this company. >> amidst this, the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, a spat between him and house republicans seems to be escalating, specifically members of the house intelligence committee. >> right. this goes back to back in january where there was a heated meeting at the justi

evan perez, you are working your sources. >> we just got new audio from anne arundel fire ems.his portrays the initial heroic response from the police and fire officials there in anne arundel county. listen to this. >> you could hear him say that there were at least ten shots heard. that's what we heard as well from our sources were telling us that the initial report came in from some of the people inside that newsroom was that they were -- they heard about ten shots. you can hear that from the audio from the initial response and what the authorities have been describing as a heroic response that they were able to respond to that within 60 seconds, within 60 to 90 seconds, which is an incredibly fast response. it appears that might have made all the difference here. we have five people -- five fatalities who have been -- people killed in this thing. but clearly, it could have been a lot worse if the police had not been able to respond so quickly with ten shots that were heard from the people there at the scene. >> the police said this suspect had a long gun. the describe what t