shares held by the co-founder evan segal and bobby worth 5 billion each. each. these guys are in authorize 20's. i have ties older than these guys. the company lost 515 million last year. hype or hope-- >> at this point it's hype, you're buying and trading the stock. stay close to your monitor. the ipo's over the last two decades. go up 38 trading days and a four month decline. be very nimble if you're in it. neil: how reliable is a debut like this to the long-term prospects for a company, adam? >> it's not reliable at all. there's a few that have good opens and done extremely well and far more that haven't. you know, twitter would be a great example, did very well out of the gate and look at it now. neil: and facebook sort of stumbled out of the gate, right, gary, and then righted itself. absolutely. neil: what do you make of that, gary? do you feel compelled to sort of, you know, sniff around and look at this and look at other social media offerings? what? >> the best way i can put it, this company selling steel pipes, it would be a $5 a share stock right now.