david: evelyn, health care will only need to more jobs if it's done in the private sector. >> i don't think that's true. i want to cut waste out of the system just as much as jack does. the reality is we need to spend more in the short term in order to get long-term gains. the system is broken. for example, let's look at modernizing the health care system, making medical records electronic, fast i will traiting communication between hospitals and doctors. that's going to cost tens of billions of dollars. if you think about it currently, the processing of claims costs more than $200 billion. david: rich, isn't the private sector the best place to do that? >> i think so because you get much more efficiency improvements when people are spending out of their own pockets. for instance, lasik surgery, the price has come down, the service has gotten better. the main question is jobs and the economy right now. when you talk to employers, they are increasingly looking at employees as costs and burdens because of mounting health care costs. so i don't see how spending another trillion dollars a

david: so, evelyn, do we follow california's model? >> we know california is in a crisis situation. they need to make cuts to balance their budget. but they have to confront their reality that by doing so, they will have long-term consequences. we will see more uninsured children, programs disabled. and children hurt are cut as well. and the h.i.v. prevention program so because of all of these cuts, that's going to cause long-term consequence and hurt these vulnerable segments of the population. david: so steve, even ronald reagan believed in the safety net. are we cutting that safety net? >> no. what they do in california cal is they want to make sure that the people who are hurt are the people who are supposed to be benefit from these programs instead of cutting out bureaucratic bloat. you have a lot of room there. and take medycal. there's a lot of -- david: the california version of medicaid. >> what that would do, could you deliver better services for things like vouchers. give more power to the people you're supposed to benefit. so use this as an opportunity not to win headlin

evelyn, first of all, i presume you think the signs also are good. mean, as the governor said, the atmospherics look good. what do you think north korea wants here? >> i think it's pretty clear what north korea wants. they want some kind of ease in the tensions. the sanctions, i think, that are -- >> but they've created some of the tension. >> i know, i know. they've absolutely, they are, i mean, i wont say 100% responsible, because we are responsible in part, but that's intentional. but they created a tremendous amount of tension with their nuclear tests, with the missile tests, and i think they found themselves in a bit of a box, because the resulting response that we've had, which includes the u.n. sanctions, has started to hurt them. in weird, little ways, that if you understand north korea, kind of make sense. they have a system where it's a very elite, structured system. the elites have strong control over what goes on in that country. and apparently, we've seized some yachts, some things of that nature, things that matter to them. >> and i sho

with the clock ticking on cash for clunkers, evelyn shafer knew it was time to make a move with her grand marquee. >> this incentive brought me here immediately. >> sales people are trying to close the deals before the program runs out of money. >> we are working feverishly around the clock. and we will work throughout the night to get rebate requests in to the government. >> reporter: he says his 14 dealerships have made 500 cash for clunkers deals since july 1st that means the department of transportation owes him $2 million in reimbursements. without action to extend the program, he is not 100% confident he will get it. >> i can't afford the government to say in a couple of weeks, sorry it didn't work out the way it was intended. >> reporter: there is no question it is helped the auto industry. ford reported the first increase since 2007 and they are pointing to environmental benefits, suvs, vans and trucks have been turned in for fuel savers saving hundreds of dollars a year in gas and $500,000-ton reduction in carbon emissions. and they are saving jobs. >> everybody i talk to talks a

. >> lasts and first word from evelyn, snitching on americans. white house tactic that has more americans speaking up. but first, how much do you think your little one, cute and your little one, cute and adorable, uncle sam reveals he ran off with his secretary! she's 23 years old! - oh, come on. - enough! you get half and you get half. ( chirp ) team three, boathouse? ( chirp ) oh yeah-- his and hers. - ( crowd gasping ) - ( chirp ) van gogh? ( chirp ) even steven. - ( chirp ) mansion. - ( chirp ) good to go. ( grunts ) timber! ( chirp ) boss? what do we do with the shih-tzu? - ( crowd gasps ) - ( chirp ) joint custody. - phew! - announcer: get work done now. communicate in less than a second with nextel direct connect. only on the now network. deaf, hard of hearing and people with speech disabilities access www.sprintrelay.com. >>> here it is. new price too long raise a kid, nearly $300,000 and we're not including college. what stocks could cover such bills? john you are taking us to china. >> it's fxi, banks and telecom companies, it's 19% it.

. >> reporter: with the clock ticking on cash for clunkers, evelyn shaver knew it was time to make a >> this incentive brought me here immediately. >> reporter: consumers and sales people are trying to close deals quickly before the program runs out of money. >> we are work -- working feverishly around the clock. >> i can't afford the government to say in a couple of weeks, sorry, it didn't work out the way it was intended. >> reporter: there is no question the stimuluses that helped the auto industry. supporter are also pointing to environmental benefits. gas guzzling suvs vans and truck have been turned in for fuel zippers that is saving consumes are hundreds of dollars a year in gas. sheehy says the increased sale are also saving jobs. >> ebb i talked to talks bay jobless recovery. well, we'll be adding people, particularly people if this program continues. >> reporter: evelyn won't have to worry about that. she is getting behind the wheel of a new subaru outback right away. nice? >> reporter: whether anyone else will be able to do the same is the $2 billion question. >>> and the

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. >> evelyn, this is dennis. >> reporter: the red hat ladies say wednesday's child project means a lot to them. >> i wanted to help in some way, because i helped a number of children, through different projects. >> well, i like it because it's volunteer work. i don't go out a lot, you know. >> reporter: ready for school? >> yes. >> reporter: what grade this year? >> seventh. >> reporter: what do you think about what the red hat ladies have done? >> i think it was quite a good thing they did for us. >> reporter: along with the backpacks, the red hat ladies shared a lot of love with the kids today, good feelings they will go back to school with while they continue and continue to hope for a permanent and lovi ar rbrrbaha,a ison barbara harr f4,wsneor f f >> if youav h i>>f you have room inouou yr pt aiodonch adoption d,chil neu youyo can log on to he come pa also at nbcwashington.com. >>> the time is 9:41. 75 degrees outside. hp next, chuck willba be itck w thlle be bait wfuh the full forecast. >>> we are here on a good weather day. >> i think a lot of folks complained about the humidity

. >> reporter: evelyn wouldn't have to worry about that. she is getting behind the wheel of a nice new vehicle. whether anybody else will be able to do the same is the two billion question. >> well, the problem is nobody knows exactly how many cars have been sold. dealer organizations believe that they have hit or perhaps exceeded that 250,000 vehicle mark. now the department of transportation says that all day, deals made through tuesday will be honored. but it can't say how many overrides will be paid for if the senate doesn't approve additional money. melanie alnwick, fox 5 news. >>> and white house looking at top advisers and the idea of taxing the middle class. something obama, the candidate, promised not to do. the treasure secretary tim geithner and others talked about the situation this weekend. the press secretary, robert gibbs, said it wouldn't happen. >>> and a prize collection ripped off during a burglary. and what the owner is trying to do to get the items back. >>> and also coming up, the disturbing new details in the murder o

. >> evelyn, this is dennis. >> reporter: the head rat ladies say the "wednesday's child's" projects mean a lot to them. hope. >> hoped through the years i could help in some way because i have helped a number of children through different projects. >> i like it because it is volunteer work. i don't go out a lot, you know. >> are you ready for school? >> yes. >> reporter: what grade are you going to be in this year? >> seventh. >> miss nancy. this is darren. >> what do you think about what the red hot ladies have done? >> they think it was quite a good thing they did for us. >> this is emanuel. >> reporter: along with the backpacks, the red hat ladies shared a lot of love with the kids that came today. good feelings they will go back to school with while they continued to wait and hope for permanent loving homes. barbaraav harrison, news4, "wednesday's child."f>>av iue o f au i hyoe room andyoour y he or atld waiting, please call our special adoption hotle ate 1-88-to-adopt-me or nbcwashington.com. did you love that? i love it. the whole interaction. yes. >> hats off to them. >> mean

my name is evelyn rick, by the way. >> that's great. >> but there was a gap where i lost my insurance in between losing my job at the nonprofit and my current job. i'd like to ask you how you will help people with that gap when they're unemployed. >> well, first of all, the recovery package, the stimulus helps people precisely with that gap when we said we'll cover 65% of the cost of cobra. how many people here have been on cobra or tried to get on cobra? all right. so, just for those of you who aren't familiar with it, if you lose your job, under federal law you're able to access something called cobra which allows you to pay the premiums for health insurance that you had until you find your next job. sounds like a good deal. here's the only problem. as i said before, most of us don't realize how much our insurance costs our employers because we're not seeing the actual bill. we're seeing it paid mostly by our employers. so, when we lose our jobs, suddenly we get this bill for $1,000 or $1,200 or $1,500 a month and that's absolutely the worst time for you to have to come up with that

evelyn menayah of riverview medical center in new jersey, okay. -- we are acting like children. >> rightng back to school, seriously, no laughing matter, not only that, i also want to bring this up, because, one of miss viewers actually pointed out in an e-mail, we talk about school in the fall, and kids in the south actually go back to school tomorrow. >> right. right, they start earlier. >> julie: should parents pack them in the backpacks. >> you know, we are going to wait until the fall and the winter season actually comes, and that is number one and number 22,s this is not the only thing to protect and you everybody thinks, okay. i'm done. that is not it. and this works, the cdc's recommendation, actually is not only the mask, but, it also has to be everything else, the washing of the hands, the washing of the cell phones, everything, and you know, and most importantly, stay home, if you are sick, please stay home because, that contaminates everybody. >> gregg: if you have a temperature or a cough... >> temperature, a cough, body aches, you know, you really should stay at home. >> ju

darica had been working with evelyn brooks-higginbotham is an undergraduate at the university of pennsylvania. i remember i was making a pact, we have to take care of each other. we are never going to be alone. we have got each other, right? and that has been the case. we have been a support for one another whether it is professional or personal. i was going to princeton. i was going to work with nell painter. i mean, my experience has been really different but at the same time, that mississippi experience really sort of pushed me to see that my experience was exceptional in this sense that i ended up in places where i was lucky enough that there wasn't just one, but that is not anymore. that conference was the first time i was just one, and it was brutal. i came back, i was the graduate student rap, not the african-american person but i was at that time in many ways on sees twa and mev road about that experience. i got overwhelmed with letters from white women, black people saying, you know, i remember having an experience like this and this story just sort of poured out of me. then i got my

darica had been working with evelyn brooks-higginbotham is an undergraduate at the university of pennsylvania. i remember i was making a pact, we have to take care of each other. we are never going to be alone. we have got each other, right? and that has been the case. we have been a support for one another whether it is professional or personal. i was going to princeton. i was going to work with nell painter. i mean, my experience has been really different but at the same time, that mississippi experience really sort of pushed me to see that my experience was exceptional in this sense that i ended up in places where i was lucky enough that there wasn't just one, but that is not anymore. that conference was the first time i was just one, and it was brutal. i came back, i was the graduate student rap, not the african-american person but i was at that time in many ways on sees twa and mev road about that experience. i got overwhelmed with letters from white women, black people saying, you know, i remember having an experience like this and this story just sort of poured out of me. then i got my