evelyn farkas, so she's a nonresident fellow of the atlantic council but very importantly until just the ago was deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine and eurasia. before the shed wide range of extremes on security issues both with the u.s. military on capitol hill and in the think tank world. john herbst is director of the eurasia center. the junior partners in the endeavor. and, finally, john, i know when because we worked together at the state department for time. one of the most distinguished career professionals of this generation working not only on russia, so mythology russia, eurasia but also the middle east, all of which are highly relevant to our discussion today. finally, william ruger, vice president of research and policy at the charles koch institute as he points out is also vice president for the foundation, the charles koch foundation, so a very busy job. he's a veteran of the war in afghanistan, important to note in the second extensive academic career in areas we are talking about. so i said i wanted to discuss, organize the discussion three phas

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