that everson was bad law. and they're too confused to be able to rectify. the court fowtsan to balance the establisent cause, the freedom of religion clause, free exercise clause, and they get continue low entangled in their own feet. so that's the more complex account of where things got derailed. and really what would be necessary to get them back, it would be a big public debate, obviously to do that. >> host: let's talk about religion's place in the public square. specifically christianity. according to polling from pew, 78% of americans identify themselves as christians, and in washington, we have public displays for christmas and a national christmas tree, and that sort of thing, but you see challenges in the public square for the christian faith. >> guest: yeah. there is a so-called christmas tree in washingto >> host: yes. st: many other es at's not the case. you have the active attempt to simply remove any kind of christian displays from -- any public place, like in schools, for example. i just heard about this when this is amazing. the easter bunn

that everson was bad law. it should be thrown out. all those establishment cases should be just chucked. they're confused -- they're too confused to be able to rectify, and a sign of that is the court itself can't figure out how to balance the establishment clause and freedom of religion clause, free exercise clause. they get continually entangled on their own feet. so that's the more complex account of where things got derailed and really what would be necessary to get them back. but it would be a big public debate, obviously, to do that. >> host: well, let's talk about religion's place in the public square, specifically christianity's. according to polling from pew, you know, 78% of americans identify themselves as christians, and in washington we have public displays for christmas in a national christmas tree and that sort of thing. but you see challenges in the public square for the christian faith. >> guest: yeah. and there are -- is it still called the christmas tree in washingtonsome yes, it is. [laughter] >> guest: all right.

for religion and ethics news weekly, i'm lucky everson in washington, d.c. >>> on our calendar this weekmbers of the bahai faith celebrate a feast that's a 12-day holiday commemorates a prophet's announcement in 1863, that he was the new messenger of god. > 50 years ago, this april, in birmingham, alabama, martin luther king jr. was arrested for organizing a civil rights demonstration. he spent eight days in jail, and in solitary confinement. it was there that he wrote his classic vigorous defense of nonviolent civil disobedience, his "letter from birmingham jail." this weekend in birmingham, christian leaders gathered to apologize for 1960's era moderates who had urged king to be patient and not permit direct confrontations. they also urged people of faith today to continue doctor king's anti-racism campaign. >> we have to come together and say, what is the agenda that we share? for fixing what's broke. fixing broken people, broken families. broken nations. broken cities, broken communities. >> it was in his letter from birmingham jail, that dr. king wrote -- injustice anywhere is a thr

of course, everson was bad law. it should be thrown out. just chock. they're confused. they are too confused. the court itself can't figure out how to balance the establishment cause of freedom of religion, free exercise clause. they get continually entangled on their own feet. so that's the more complex account of where things got derailed, and really what will be nested to get them back but it would be a big public debate to do that. >> host: let's talk about religion's place in the public square, especially christian. according to a polling from pew, 78% of americans identify themselves as christians. in washington would have public displays for christmas, a national christmas tree, and that sort of thing. but you see challenges in the public square for the christian faith. >> guest: and -- is a still called a christmas tree? okay. i did know. and many other places that's not the case. in other words, you have the active attempt to simply remove any kind of christian displays from, any public place. like in schools, for example, you, i just heard about this one. this

steve everson has been with us all week.orism expert, and he has been looking into the on line postings that we believe belong to these two men. steve, what can you tell us? >> well, one of the brothers, actually, both brothers had youtube channels in the united states. they also had youtube channels in russia, but the ones in the united states we examined about half of the 22 videos they posted. some of them are in english, some of them are in russian, most of them are in ai arabic. it's clear to me based on the videos which feature bin laden, which feature exhortations to kill jews and measures and conquer the world, these are not chechnyaan directed only. they're directed primarily against all anonymous limbs. very similar to the al-qaeda videos we've seen in years past. it shows that thei they're islai can terrorists not interested only in chechnyan liberation, and the images they've interspaced are supremely bloody. these are bloody types of videos seized out of afghanistan when we raided afghanistan back in 2003, 2002,