free program podcast, i’m maxim tronkov, our guest is the best figure skater of our country, evgeniy semenenkozhen, hello, hello, max, i’m glad that we finally managed to meet. yes, indeed, i have been waiting for you to visit us for a very long time, here you are, finally, in your difficult schedule between studies and training, i got to us, well, my first question, of course, is about the 4.5-turn axel, this is the real one now . figure skating stream, how is work on it going? well, listen, at the moment i was only able to try it in one training session, as if i walked consciously, knowing what i was planning, the triple axel turned out well with a large margin, i warmed up the quadruples, i also felt, well, how easy it was to do, and decided to try it naturally first on the fishing rod, because go straight away, well it’s like... it’s a risk, plus emotionally, it’s like there’s something in my head that could get injured, there could be serious consequences, but as if i tried it on a fishing rod for the first time, well, i asked you to support me first, but for so that there was a reserve,