joining me now is a security expert, evy poumpouras, also a former special agent of the secret service, who served on protective details for president obama and president george w. bush. is this unusual? >> if the way it's being reported, yes, that is unusual. typically, that doesn't happen. a security detail will not come in and intermingle with the secret service security. but in reference to the political piece, and i've looked at that spees. i think what they're referring to is his security people are going to either come in as an aid, which is fine, as long as they're not carrying weapons, as long as he has his head of security, he can have that as a gatekeeper. what you really don't want to see is his actual security intermingling. i can't see that happening. the only gun carriers -- >> when you say "intermingling," you're referring to armed guarding of the president and the president's body? >> yes. it would be very, very unlikely to see that. to actually see private security doing physical security for the president of the united states. >> which would raise real chain of comma