and as ewpewsentative speier said there is no such thing as on-line offline life in his life we are on line no lot of the time. so that argument is quite frankly one that comes from privilege or those who have not experienced that are much more likely a to be worried about first amendment problems but those who have experience of the total shutdown of much more willing to say we don't have a first amendment right. >> i will open to the whole panel of where you draw the line with the first amendment that seems to be the biggest hurdle to moving forward to recognize the problem. . . been nd a half hours. [inaudible conversations] >> good morning. good morning. i realize people are still coming in so please don't be shy. there are still seats. thank you all for being here today. i am the vice president of communications and events here at the "washington post". thank you to those of you watching this on line. this is our sixth annual cybersecurity summit and it couldn't come at a more interesting time. this summer the democratic national committee was hacked likely by a foreign government