people in congress and elsewhere fighting for these programs' ex istnece. jennifer: the constituencies are difference. but they have very similar goals. for instance, one of the interesting things that i found was if you look at civilian social workers and public welfare workers in the postwar united states, but they are enormous advocates for expanded civilian social welfare state. brings social and economic security to the country and generally guarantees a peaceful and prosperous society. they are also coming on as consultants to the military in the 19 50's and 1960's and explaining to the military that they need to elaborate their own social welfare programs within the military in order to make america's defense posture more stable, because it will provide for a more stable military environment for those people who are in it. sometimes the constituencies are actually quite similar. and in congress, you can often see people on both sides of the aisle who are in favor of a stable civilian social welfare state, and also a growing military welfare state. th