. >> the ex-gang unit was night and day different than any of the active units we had been to. relief that getting out of the gang provided them, and it showed. >> the ex-gang unit is the only place where those affiliated with warring gangs live together peacefully. but they're fully aware their decisions to leave their gangs carry consequences that could follow them forever. >> we always tell any ex-member of any major prison gang, your life is in danger. there is somebody out to get you. it is going to happen. just remember that you were part of a criminal enterprise and you left it, and there is by their bylaws a hit on you. >> that's the way it goes. you're in it for life or you're dead, you know, there's no -- there's no way out of it. >> victor, who requested we only use his first name for security reasons, once a lieutenant in the mexican mafia. he defected, while serving a prior 23-year prison sentence for kidnapping and aggravated assault. victor was back in the bexar county jail on a parole violation. >> when a mafia member decides to defect after members of the mafia

for about decades exon ex-ganged in very rigorous unbiased scientific research. into the rising levels of atmospheric c 02 and in fact partners with ac dame yeah, and government, the u.s. department of energy in doing some of the research. but by the late 1980's, exon has made a turn and began to discredit much of that science. coffin began to fund lobbying efforts. it began to make tremendous political contributions. and it began to fund alternative science, science that a dive gent opinion of the cause of rising atmospheric c 02. in the briefings that we have confirmed from our research and through reading interim exon documents. part of the reason exon was being briefed was because it had to make some business decisions. based on potential policy changes to address global warning. i believe, and while i am not a legal person, and none of our reporting pretends to be legally based. it shows that the new york attorney general is taken very seriously. what exon knew, in p the -- as early as the -- 1977, and maybe before, and what it was telling the public, and th

made up almost primarily of ex- gang members and not just ask king members, but famous, series players who were gang members at the time in prison etc. and the lapd said we are going to support this intervention academy and we are going to-- we know how to use them and we will use them so that they are not snitches because they can be effective if they are snitches going to the police, but we will use them. when there were gang wars and a lot of what happens is that a shoots b and then b once retaliation and he gets this gang and they should another person from that gang. with interventionists did was they stopped those retaliatory killings, which had resulted in so much crime and so much death, so those were, i think, the major accomplishments and i think that the training, everyone tells me that the younger officers back amount and certainly the captains really get it. they really get what needs to be done within the framework of the kind of police department that we have, which are really agents of containment. they need to be more than that, so that's how, i think, the lapd has bee