we are upwards up 90 percent for the police examination so far. it's really exciting and the police department seems pleased. we'll work closely with the firefighter. we'll rely on the firefighters -- the firefighters that the chief assigns to help recruit now that we'll have a recruitment to do. and we will be providing materials in support and certainly all these jobs are posted on the website. the beauty is it's an ongoing recruitment. the list is continuously refreshed by people who take the test. okay. this is an answer to the question that chair breed had. that the san francisco firefighter set the flier to more than 100 organizations and will submit a less. >> supervise are cohen has a question. this is where i'm struggling when listening to this. there is no acknowledge nor do i have a desire to -- a desire to change, to move from one direction into another. there is an independent audit that is saying two dhr and to the fire department, there needs to be change that needs to happen. you also have a legal challenge that is also evidence sa

this is the medical examiner, dr.ployed there from july of 2011 until my resignation in january of 2014. >> what is pathology? >> pathology is a specialized branch of medicine that identifies and diagnose disease and injury. >> what is forensic pathology? >> that is a pathologist that has more specialty training that allows them to conduct examination in cases of violent or suspicious or sudden and unexpected death. >> what is clinical pathology? >> clinical pathology is the study of body fluids to help diagnose disease and other entities. >> have you had study in all of those areas? >> yes. >> are you board certified in any of these areas? >> i am board certified in anatomic and clinical pathology and also board certified in forensic pathology. >> how many autopsies have you conducted or participated in in your career? >> well, the total number of cases that i have worked on in my car reer is approximately 1,0 to 1,050 and complete probably 800 to 825-850. >> have you ever testified in any of those special it is in f

to the medical examiner, it all started to make sense.ever it was used a pediatric-sized needle to make the tiny puncture wound in michelle's left arm, since there was virtually no hemorrhaging. the medical examiner believed that this was the work of a medical professional, most likely someone who worked in a hospital and probably someone michelle knew. >> whoever had injected michelle herndon was someone that, for whatever the reasons were, she had trusted enough to offer that person her left arm. >> she would not have been able to administer the dose and then clean up and take that medical waste the 60 feet from her body where it was located. >> but who was this person? to find out, detective mark woodman came up with an idea that changed the course of the investigation. he told analysts to test the syringe caps found in michelle's trash. >> i can remember seeing medical staff hold needle caps in their mouth while they were giving an injection, and i thought that there was a potential there for saliva dna. >> i thought that was rather b

. >> divers also examined the wood pilings that supported the bridge. >> we wanted to determine if thees had undergone any kind of deterioration such as damage from wood-destroying organisms like soft rot or brown rot decay. >> under a powerful microscope, scientists examined the cell walls of the samples. they looked for triangular-shaped microorganisms like these which would indicate rot. >> since we didn't find them present, then we're fairly comfortable that there was no appreciable deterioration of the piles contributing to the collapse. >> all that remained were three concrete piers. when investigators looked more closely, they discovered that the steel plates used to connect the bridge to the concrete were displaced 48 inches out of alignment. corley also examined the bolts that attached the metal plates to the concrete. >> those attachments were poorly maintained, and in several cases, the holes that were supposed to have bolts through them didn't have anything recognizable in them. when we took the material out that was in those holes, we found that it was rust. >> when the su

no estimate how long it will take the medical examiner to do her examination. she will then release the body and it can presumably be carried away. a lot of people craning to take pictures of the vehicle. no activity at the house. no word how long the medical examiner will be upstairs. presumably they will stay in place and collect any evidence they need for as long as they need to really. you can see again this crowd out here wanting to see something. >> alexandra, again, we understand according to sources the discovery of the body was made roughly around 11:15 eastern time. that doesn't necessarily mean how long he may have been dead. it's unclear how long he had been dead. that's one thing the medical examiner will try to determine as best they can. that, too, can take hours if not a day to determine. >> reporter: certainly. that's what law enforcement officials are telling us out here. is there any indication of how long he may have been in the apartment, any indication of how long he could have potentially been unaccounted for? demise another meetings, pre

next the letters were analyzed by a forensic document examiner.s were typed with the same typewriter. the paper was inexpensive, the kind often used in high schools. the type showed no defects, making it difficult to identify the typewriter used to create them. and only the signature was handwritten. >> the signature itself is a full cursive signature. it is full of tremor. it looks labored and it looks slow, and it does not look like it is the product of habitual movement. >> experts compared this questioned signature to several documents brad signed shortly before his disappearance. >> the upper case b in the name brad was actually constructed in three pieces. there is a break. it has the up and down spine on the left side of the letter, but between the top and the bottom of the letter, there is a break. interesting, the break is in a place where you would naturally stop if you wanted to look to see how you were doing and continue writing. >> police suspected larry moore may have written the letters, but it was difficult to tell since the questi

but when the medical examiner ruled ms. haynes death a homicide, investigators called in mike lane, an expert in the field of fire investigations. >> all i wanted him to be able to do was tell me, was this an arson, was it not an arson, and if it was, where did it start and tell me as much as you can about the fire. >> the first thing he did was to conduct a room-by-room search trying to determine where the fire started and how it spread. >> if you have a large area, you can determine heat flow and directionality by cutting this wall stud in two. and when you cut it in two, looking down on the top, you can see that the fire came from this direction and flowed around this point with much more degradation right here than we do on this side. >> lane then drew a diagram of the floor plan and charted the burn patterns using an arrow to point toward the heat source. >> examining this pattern indicates the direction of fire flow starting at the bottom of this pattern, where we first see charring, and then at the top of this where

. >> medical examiners have long referred to the autopsy as the silent witness. way for the victim to tell her story. things that the suspects in a crime usually leave out. at tina's autopsy, forensic pathologist dr. philip burch started his examination with a forensic technique known as wound pattern analysis. >> i didn't look just at one wound in this case, i looked at all of the wounds as a whole. >> tina sustained six deep stab wounds to the solar plexus, all in close proximity. dr. burch believed any one of them could have caused her death. >> the serious injuries to it, tightly clustered around her lower central chest and abdomen. i was told that she was supposedly involved in a wild free-for-all-type fight with a knife. and that seemed to be very odd that all of the fatal injuries were very tightly clustered within a specific area of the body. >> that's because stabbing victims usually move during an attack. i didn't feel that she was involved in a fight where she was able to move her extremities freely. that is, either she stayed stock still of her own vo

but all those kinds of evidence that are always subject to human frailties and cross-examination and and bias and so forth, and of course, the powerful nature of forensic evidence is it's not subject to those things. >> candra torres testified in detail about her ordeal. tom brown told his version and tried to demonstrate how the alleged accident took place. >> he tried to hand off that rifle, and it just -- you can't. you can't do it. and he stuck to his guns, and i believe stuck to a lie, but it was demonstrated to be that. >> brown was so confident that he waived a jury trial. the verdict from the judge was guilty. he was sentenced to life in prison. bob hamilton is retired now, but he attends brown's parole hearings to make certain he stays in prison and that candra never has to see him again. candra is remarried, has a family and a new life. she credits forensic psychiatry with helping her move beyond her horrifying ordeal. >> i guess a fact that somebody explained to her and explained publicly why she had these confused stories, that she wasn't nuts, and there was a logical exp

in addition to that, ashleigh, of course, the medical examiner spoke to the issue of toxicology. and i think it's very relevant in this case that there were no drugs, no alcohol, nothing to speak of, prescription medication or anything else. and so no matter how complex you might get scientifically with the medical examiner, it boils down to something very simple. and that is that a life was taken, a life was taken too son of a young man weighing less than 145 pounds, 5'11", and it does not seem probable, based on the testimony, that he was exiting the vehicle to inflict harm. so when the prosecution ultimately uses this, and what i believe is going to be a very powerful closing argument -- we're not there yet -- i think they'll put all the pieces together and it will go to show from the prosecution's perspective and hopefully if you're the prosecution, the jury's perspective, that this is murder in the first degree. >> closing argument. i can't believe he even brought that up. joey jackson, my goodness. this has not been a week yet in this courthouse, and i remember thinking bac

what she knew was with brian got some and chevron bp a lot the government appointed faster to examine caught up whistleblower allegations. confidence in going to check on the missile sites is something that is out. that is why condition of great importance. fisher says audrey kate strains will be assessed and if recommended a commission of inquiry set up field position was wanted me to play it's only be good to teach effectively efficiently and with confidence. i knew welcome to six walled allegations of autumn is all about. made by the whistleblower sergeant mark mckay are to be investigated by a top lawyer the teacher told the village say that senior counsel shown here and one examines talk to the caves plains of the government is open to the idea of a commission of inquiry if that's recommended by ms to hear him. the garda commissioner mark town on the phone with his full support to the gear review but feel foolish and faith say they want the full commission set up without delay. all eyes were on the cabbage beets and this morning and what course of action ministries which decides

she testified against the defendant at the preliminary examination. tracked her down and he killed her. and no conviction is justice for what happened to her. but ironically, the science that she was working on, in fact, helped to put away her killer. >>> breaking news overnight. massive protests turn deadly in two countries. people in ukraine and venezuela, rising up against their governments. flaming shooting in the air, tear gas sending crowds scrambling. we're live with the cast of confusion that all unfolds this morning. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> and i'm john berman. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. a lot going on this morning. we begin in the ukraine. these are live pictures from the ground. this morning, kiev's main square son fire. you can see the smoke there. you can see the water cannons in the

when i was a commissioner, there was another african and there's five commissioners examine two african american s the fire department commission and at the time of the first recruitment class in a long time, there were no african american men and as far as i'm concerned, that's completely unacceptable. we can talk about how well we're doing, but the truth of the matter, from my perspective and looking at the list, and i'm seeing our organization the list as someone who received information from the fire department and throughout my ten years on the -- as a director, i don't recall seeing anyone from the city of the city other than announcements about opportunities for housing and opportunities for jobs potentially with the police department. but i don't recall seeing any announcements other than what i have received as a commissioner from the department. i'm not sure whether or not this is -- i have this laundry list of organizations. if they were outreached to, this is a great outreach. we're headed in the right direction and looking at the testing. but i'm concerned -- in the departm

investigators sent these notes to forensic document examiner sandra holmwood to see if the handwritinghe known samples. >> the writer had a specific lower d and backwards lower ways f, when it went in a clockwise motion instead of a counter clockwise motion as we are taught. there were many letters in and of themselves that were consistent between the known and questioned writing and there were no differences that would suggest that it was written by a different writer. >> sandra holm concluded that dorothy had indeed written the notes. >> when the lab report came back, and said is, that dorothy had actually authored all of the letters, we pretty much concluded at that time the investigators did, that perhaps what they were looking at is in fact a suicide. >> but in the aftermath of dorothy's death, her husband chris, appeared to be anything but grief stricken. >> within weeks of dorothy's death, chris davis actually moved a person into the house who was there to act as a nanny or to take care of his children. >> everyone on base knew this woman was more than a nanny. she had been havi

he examined paint from the boot, from the car, and from the file sample of a 1974 camaro.ere identical. and with this evidence, dale bradley was arrested and charged with bryan ruff's murder. >> it was shocking that anybody could do something so horrific, let alone somebody that claimed to be a good friend. >> prosecutors believe dale either knew or strongly suspected bryan ruff was having an affair with his wife, kristi, and was afraid she was going to leave him. >> i think he was so angry that kristi and bryan betrayed him that he was going to make him pay. >> the forensic evidence suggests dale's plan was to eliminate the person he perceived to be his competition. since he knew bryan's hours and when there would be the least amount of traffic, he knew exactly when to strike. dale probably forced bryan into the trunk at gunpoint. bryan tried to kick his way out of the trunk during the 30-minute drive when a piece of the paint became embedded in his boot. when dale got to the burial spot, prosecutors think he ordered bryan to remove his boots so he couldn't run away. he t

all 20 were then examined visually.. >> this print came up, it was like, oh, my gosh, this looks awfully good. this looks like we're going to have a hit. >> the print belonged to 58-year-old james davis, a career criminal. >> i identified him four different times. i identified him eight fingers. right index, right middle, right ring and then the right palm. >> it's hard to really describe how i felt, but i was absolutely elated about it. >> james ray davis spent the majority of his adult life incarcerated. auto theft, forgery, assaults. >> davis was living in a housing project on the texas/arkansas border. he had been out of prison for about ten years following a conviction for abducting a young girl. detective ramsey knocked on his door. >> i said, mr. davis, i'm from the houston police department. and you could tell his demeanor changed drastically. he just stared at me. >> ramsey pulled out a photo of diane's car. davis didn't want to look at it. >> he said, i've never, ever seen that car. well, that's strange. that'

the medical examiner found no drugs or alcohol in her system. he did find evidence of severe head trauma. but the cause of death wasn't the head trauma. it was drowning. >> there was plenty of fluid and that was the result of her active inhalation of the water from the lake. because she was submerged. >> but what caused florence to fall to her death? was it suicide? an accident? or something more sinister? you'e expanded your business? after your company's gone public? and the capital's been invested? or when your company's bought another? is it over after you've given back? you never stop achieving. that's why, at barclays, our ambition is to always realize yours. >>> this is flo unger. she was a student from 1975 to 1978. >> the tragic death of florence unger, the mother of two young children, was a shock to coworkers, friends, and family. >> unless you'd lived through it, it's difficult to explain. you feel like your head's going to explode. it's total and complete devastation. there's nothing like it. it's unimaginable. >> police at the scen

but the agencies that have to examine this, i hope, will examine it in terms of what will produce the most competition in our country. that's part and parcel of capitalism in our country. and when there is fierce competition, we know who wins. the consumer wins. people are under a lot of pressure. the average consumer today is under a lot of pressure in the terms of their bills and what they pay. and, you know, in many cases it just keeps going up. so i think that they'd like to see -- i know my constituents say we want more competition. so i think it has to be examined with that as a major operating principle. >> host: you're watching "the communicators" on c-span. anna eshoo is our best. she is the top democrat on the energy and commerce's communications and technology subcommittee. kate tunnel tummarello of "the s a technology reporter with that publication. anna eshoo, you recently announced the congressional student apps program. what is that? >> guest: very excited about it. congressman bob good last -- goodlatte, a republican, and myself are co-chairs of this effort. launched i

capture the broad value beyond the immediate development >> and part of the scope of the study is examining the boundary. >> yeah. we would look at that and the whole financial economic piece that will be a major component. >> a portion of the area surrounding the freeway is the mission bay redevelopment plan we've captured a lot of the property evaluation the increment and that's one of our 3 sections how is that interaction over the long-term. >> we'll have to study that we don't have any answers yet you know through some initially exhibitions we've had some of the examinations with the landowners and there's improvement to be added and probably value to be grapd the transbay development. >> and this is it before my comments we've gone over the plan of climate change i'm curious. >> the initial maps that have been done show that the area around mission creek is one of the most vulnerable areas and the railway yards is a low pointed out in the top grafb we need to grapple with that and protect our investment and what we should do as part of those projects to safeguard them for beyond the n

but the agencies that have to examine this, i hope will examine it in terms of what will produce the most competition in our country. that is part of capitalism in the country. when there is fierce competition, we know who wins: the consumer wins. people are under a lot of pressure, the average consumer is under a lot of pressure in terms of their bills and what they pay. and you know, in many cases, it just keeps going up. so i think they would like to see -- i know my followers want more competition. so i think it has to be examined with that as the major operating force. >> host: you are watching t tth the the - the --" the communicators" here and we have anna eshoo as our guest. you announced your education effort and talk about that >> guest: it received the seal of approval because it is congression congressional, not an individual, effort. the reason for it is the following: we know looking into the future of 2020 what the demand will be in the area of science, technology, engineering and math -- stem. we also can project what the short fall will be for those very important jo

>> this week on "political capital," we examine iran sanctions. and margaret carlson debates the future of chris christie and obamacare. we began the program with the elected chairman of the senate finance committee. thank you so much and congratulations. you are an advocate of tax reform. but there is no way you can do a comprehensive reform this year. >> the challenge will be a two step drill. we had about 50 of what are called tax extenders. these are measures like research and development and energy that expired. my hope is we can get them reenacted probably. so we do not sacrifice important investments. and then use them as a bridge toward comprehensive reform. >> you mention the rmb and renewable issue. are there other extenders that should be filled? >> my first choice would be to go to comprehensive tax reform rather than have to proceed with the extenders. the reality is, when the house leadership last november declared that obamacare was their primary issue, that changed the timetable. i'm not going to sacrifice important mission-critica

at the same time, latent print examiner tom carney took a fresh look at these prints, too. he was new to the el paso county crime laboratory. he came from miami where he learned something not many others knew. the fbi's fingerprint database did not contain the prints of everyone in the united states who was convicted of a crime. >> he knew right away that they had not, all these afises out there had not been searched. to the best of my knowledge only two afis systems had been searched. >> i just assumed that it was a centralized network, and tom carney was the one that really opened our eyes on that. >> generally, the fbi stores only the fingerprints of criminals convicted of major crimes, not those convicted of minor crimes like burglary or theft. so, carney needed to identify every database that had fingerprints which were not on file with the fbi. >> i just contacted every state and tried to track down every system in every state, including canada and even mexico. >> carney identified 92 fingerprint databases in north america that hadn't been searched for the prints from

atf examiner greg klees examined the extrusion marks made on the plastic insulation as it squeezed throughhe dye during the manufacturing process. this process makes the wire its uniform size. >> those marks will be imparted on that plastic insulation for a number of feet before it changes dramatically. >> lined up on a comparison microscope, it was no doubt. the wire from both bomb sites came from the same source. >> in fact, that these were produced on the same forming dye at the same plant. >> they also discovered both bombs used the same blue and the same cotton string. since both bombs appeared to be made by the same individual, this eliminated jimmy morris and phil ryan. they both had solid alibis for the second bombing. but why did these boys implicate themselves in the first place? >> they offered an explanation that they were doing this because they were playing this dungeons and dragons game. >> they really spent a lot of time wasting the time of investigators. >> i thought that was an incredibly stupid thing to do. >> then a witness came forward saying she'd seen a white male wa

. >> bruce's body was sent to the medical examiner, dr. tom canfield, for an autopsy. >> bruce worked for me. he was a medical technologist in the delta hospital and i knew him very well, both professional and a personal level. >> the autopsy results were startling. bruce hadn't been shot once, but three times. >> well, i was able to determine, one, they were distant range gunshot wounds, they were fired from a significant distance. >> one shot was a superficial wound that went through his hunting vest and grazed his back. >> the wound that went through his vest but did not cause significant damage to him probably was the first shot. >> i believe he then took the vest off to see what had happened. >> he turned in that direction and probably yelled, out of fear, hey, i'm not a deer, i'm not an elk. i'm over here, yeah, don't shoot. >> bruce was shot a second time while waving his vest in the air. it entered his chest and exited under his right arm. >> mr. dodson may have tried to crawl away when the last shot was fired. >> the third and fat

. >> it is also self-examination, self-examination, self-examination. drinking distilled water may have its benefits, but it can also do some harm. >>> and we'll give you a fir firsthand look at the toll of heroin addiction. when jake and n our own, we ate anything. but in time you realize the bett you eat, the better you feel. these days we both eat smarter. and i give jake purina cat chow naturals. made with real chicken and salmon, anit's high in protein like aow cat's natural diet. and no added artificial flavors. we've come a long way. and whatever's ahead, we'll be there for each other. naturally. purina cat chow naturals. >>> welcome back. there really aren't words that can describe the tragedy with the death of actor philip seymour hoffman, but it does shed a new light on heroin addiction. it can happen to anyone. this week our own dr. siegel visited a rehab center for a look at the real face of a horrible addiction. dr. siegel? >> you know, jamie, when i went in the door of phoenix house, i came up to somebody and said, can you tell me where so

. >> the medical examiner discovered the victim had been shot three times in the head. the bullets exited the man's skull. since no soot or debris were found in the victim's lungs, the medical examiner knew the man was dead before the fire started. >> it was clear that the hands were duct taped. the feet were duct taped. that this person was being burned beyond recognition. >> so investigators took the unusual step of trying to generate a composite sketch from what little remained. >> we knew and recognized that until we can identify this victim, we're not going to be able to really get our wheels moving in the investigation. >> fortunately, the skull was in tact. so measurements such as the brow lines, height of the cheekbones, the length and width of the jaw survived. >> the victim had received three gunshot wounds to the head. so the teeth, for the most part were gone. and there was significant burning on the one side of the face, charring on the other side of the face. and then a swelling from the intense heat of the fire. >> a small part of the victim's cornrow hai

and the board of examiner is - . we need to fill 3 new seats on the board of examiners. this is posted on the dbi website. those 3 seats were created by the soft story legislation and they're one think for the tenant seat it needs to be an architect or structural engineer. the homeowner or property owner needs to be an architect or structural engineer. the deadlines for applications for the expired seat and the new seats will be the end of february, february 28th. the nomination committee will moot in early march to review the applications then we'll figure out what to do after that. regarding the current members on those 3 bodies we want to thank all the current members and ask that they're interested in continuing to serve they submit an application or letter of interest by the deadline as well. all current members sitting on an extraordinary seat will be asked to stay until another person is appointed. we're encouraging them to help with outreach to help fill the 3 seats on the board of examiners. >> thank you commissioner lee. any comment from the commissioners >> th

. >> a fractured rib alerted the medical examiner to a bullet pathway that led from david's left side through his heart. cause of death was a single gunshot. >> it was a small-caliber handgun. they couldn't determine, you know, what caliber, because we never found the bullet. >> to investigators, it seemed strange that david's ex-wife reported him missing just three hours before his body was found. and police soon learned she had a possible motive, a $500,000 motive. [ male announcer ] are you so stuffed up, you feel like you're underwater? try zyrtec-d® to powerfully clear your blocked nose and relieve your other allergy symptoms... so you can breathe easier all day. zyrtec-d®. find it at the pharmacy counter. >>> at david nixon's autopsy, the medical examiner discovered that david had been shot with a small-caliber bullet, and tests showed his body had been soaked with gasoline before the fire. despite the damage, the medical examiner was able to analyze undamaged tissue to estimate when david was shot. >> i was able to estimate that, at room temperature, the body was probably decea

the medical examiner couldn't say cause of death, couldn't say manner of death because she had no reason for her to die. >> there was no brain aneurysm. the autopsy showed nothing that showed any conclusive evidence of a cause of death right off the top. >> so what caused kathy augustine's death? the family wanted answers. >>> several days after kathy augustine died, emergency workers were called to her house yet again. >> this is fire dispatch. what are we going out there for? >> kathleen augustine's husband's attempted suicide. >> okay. do you know what method? >> he's unconscious. >> we got a call from a neighbor that an ambulance was outside kathy's home and they were wheeling chaz away. >> chaz higgs left a suicide note, saying he couldn't live without his wife kathy. he blamed her political enemies for her death. >> thank you for taking my wife away from me. she was fighting for her life, a life that was taken away by non-caring politicians. my wife's career was ruined by you. i want to be buried beside my wife so we can hold hands in the sunshine. >> fortunately, chaz received med

to her throat was not the cause of death. > the medical examiner explained that the suspect may haveme type of wrestling move, like a half nelson, and turned or put extreme pressure on her, which dislocated -- which broke her neck. >> an autopsy found no evidence of sexual assault. in a search for suspects, joshan's family suggested police interview john hansen, a 60-year-old family friend who lived nearby. >> john was an older gentleman who hung out at the house all the time with us. but in my opinion, he seemed after a while to get too close to the children. he always wanted to be their friend, more so than the friends of an adult. >> within 24 hours of finding joshan's body, investigators went to hansen's trailer to question him, but he was gone. >> we talked to the park manager and some of the neighbors and they said they hadn't seen him in a day or two. >> a background check revealed hansen, a day laborer, estranged from his wife, had no history of violence. >> a 60-year-old man, having teenagers visit the house and hang around, i think it does lead to suspicion as to what is go

his lawyer and says despite concern he's on the verge of a heart attack his still waiting to be examined by a doctor. knows and the elements as bad weather hits the social games but the fight for medals goes on with russia hoping its ice hockey team can go all the way to gold. and terror alerts more than two hundred british citizens are estimated to have returned from syria after being recruited by hardline groups there and trained to carry out a trying time. and also this hour a string of signs along the financial world would try to find out what's causing them to take their lives. international news and comment live from moscow this is also internationally with me. and welcome to the program. russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov has demanded doctors be allowed access to a russian pilot who is being held in a u.s. jail constantino shannen keris as he has been denied urgent medical attention despite complaining of symptoms suggesting he has a problem with his heart that. he is an ex for more high that it must it has been discussing the issue with the american colleagues will do we kno

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but few are aware of a third test given by the fbi examiner, richard radcliff. the result -- >> in layman's terms, he passed. he wasn't involved in killing jones. >> only days after wayne williams was convicted of killing two adults, atlanta's police commissioner closed the books on 21 other murder victims, declaring they too were killed by williams. most were children. among them, clifford jones and yusef bell. but without trials, the mothers were left without a verdict, one way or the other, in the deaths of all of the children. camille bell. >> even if it takes 30 trials, i don't care. you know, prove it. >> the prosecutor's answer, it would serve no purpose. >> you can only serve one life sentence. >>> just ahead -- a new alibi that backfires. >> he was out that night, no question in my mind. he was not at home. he was out and about. >> and after all these years, new dna evidence. >> it probably would exclude 98% or so of the people in the world. >>> four years after the trial, robert henry would change his story about seeing the last victim nathaniel cater

the medical examiner determined karen had been stabbed 17 times. the unusual level of violence pointed to a personal relationship between karen and her killer. >> stabbing is a very personal type of way of killing people that usually the stab victims, especially such a high number, it's somebody that's close to the person. >> scientists found skin cells under karen's fingernails. unfortunately, a dna test was inconclusive. karen pannell's autopsy did provide a curious inconsistency. there were three slices missing from the pizza delivered to karen's apartment the night she was murdered, but the medical examiner couldn't find them. >> she did not have pizza in her stomach. >> the delivery man said he handed the box to karen just before 9:00 p.m. at the door, so the killer may have been inside when the pizza was delivered or arrived shortly afterwards. karen's boyfriend, tim permenter, who discovered her body, had an alibi for this time period. he was with a friend in a cabin at moon lake, 25 miles away, an alibi that checked out. the person of most

the medical examiner ordered devon's body to be exhumed for a sample of her bite impressions. >> wellthis is the first time that i've ever been asked to secure dental impressions of a deceased victim, especially one who has been exhumed. i've never done it before, and i'm not quite certain if i know anybody else in my field who has done it before. >> dr. scanlon took a cast of devon's teeth like an orthodontist does when making braces, then scanned the casts into a computer. using a process called hollow volume overlay, dr. scanlon superimposed computer-generated hollow outlines of devon's teeth over a scale photograph of the bite mark on brandon's arm. the outer rim of the bite cast and the outer rim of the bite mark were consistent. police were convinced that the bite wound on brandon's arm was from devon guzman. but this was proof that brandon and devon fought. it was not proof of murder. >> i don't think that science in any way inculpates brandon toward a murder at all. what it proves is devon guzman bit brandon bloss, period. >> then police realized something. they had michelle's

. >> the medical examiner estimated that the time of death was between 4:00 and 6:00am. police canvassed the area. one of the neighbors saw a minivan in the myers' driveway as she left for work around 4:30 in the morning. >> she wasn't familiar with either jack or linda having a minivan. so, it struck her as very odd that a minivan would be backing out of the residence at that time of the morning. >> the neighbor could not provide a detailed description of the van or the driver. outside the myers' home, the phone lines had been cut and a basement window had been removed. investigators also found shoe impressions in the dirt. casts were made for later analysis. >> it was a partial print of the shoe. did not find a complete, full impression of the entire shoe. just a partial print. >> 4-year-old johnny was the only other person living in the house. his great-grandparents had custody because his mother was a teenager and too young to care for him. when questioned, johnny told police he didn't hear any loud noises like gunshots during the night. only that he found his great-

pope agreed to take a polygraph examination.nd passed. >> it is not likely that somebody could come in and intentionally be untruthful and still pass the polygraph test. >> the next suspect was bob johnson, a roofing contractor. darrell fired johnson just two weeks before his murder. >> he was upset that he wasn't going to continue to work there because according to him, darrell had promised him continued work. >> darrell's family never met johnson. but they heard of him. >> darrell had mentioned that he had had some problems with him. he usually didn't bring his problems home and so since it was something that he had shared with me, i thought it was probably serious. >> incredibly, just two days after darrell's murder, johnson called asking to get his job back. >> the superintendent felt like it was odd that bob johnson was calling there, when can i come to work, after the fact, after darrell's been murdered, because his belief was that darrell didn't want him there. >> johnson said that on the day of the murder, he was with hi

duyst. >> investigators sent the note to a forensic document examiner who compared the handwriting tody's known handwriting samples. he found it to be consistent. scientists found a fingerprint on the letter. it was sandy's. and dna testing confirmed that sandy licked the envelope to seal it. now that sandy claimed the incident was an attack, investigators reviewed hospital medical records and discovered that the attending physician doubted a horse had done that damage. >> they were semi circular in nature and there were a number of them. they put lacerations in her head, when she had to staple shut and he said it didn't look like any horse kick injury i had ever seen. >> dr. john holsing was in the duyst barn shortly after the incident. he, too, noticed inconsistencies. >> i went in that stall and i couldn't find any blood on the wall where this reportedly happened. it was all outside of the stall in the walk-in area. >> david duyst was confronted with the letter and denied that the incident was anything other than an accident. but he did make a confession. he admitted he was having

fbi image analyst scanned the image and examined it digitally on a computer.immediately saw the problem. the texture of the skin on the victim's leg obscured the fingerprint. >> there were two patterns we are dealing with. you are dealing with the pattern of the fingerprint which is a specific type of pattern and then we have this texture of the skin that is distinct from the fingerprint. >> with the aid of the computer, he to first identify the victim's skin pattern and then have the computer remove as much of that as possible. >> it's a trial and error technique. it's not unlike an archaeologist using a dental tool to scrape away fine pieces and leave the artifact intact as opposed to taking a pick ax and just singing for the fences. >> the computer helped identify the repeating patterns of the vehicle's skin. >> and i can show you how you can get rid of those wave lengths by sending all those bright spots to zero. >> was the print presumably of the killer? all they needed now was a suspect's print to compare it to. meanwhile, another print found at the scen

so investigators examined the stolen car for blood, both inside and out, but they didn't find any. then they dusted the interior for fingerprints. >> a potential advantage to processing a rental car would be that a rental car is normally cleaned after each use before another customer takes possession of the vehicle. >> 17 partial fingerprints and 19 partial palm prints were found that did not belong to jeremy or ginger hayes. fbi analysts compared them with fresh prints from andre edwards. >> his fingerprints and his palm prints came in contact with this vehicle numerous times. >> now, andre edwards, you know, said he didn't know anything about the car. very quickly, they were able to prove that he had been inside of it. >> that meant edwards was lying. but it didn't prove he was a murderer. the medical examiner estimated that ginger was murdered about two hours after she had been kidnapped. the cause of death was blunt force trauma. she had also been sexually assaulted. >> the medical examiner could actually see the curve in her skull when they performed the autopsy. she alerted t

couldn't the prosecution when they were cross examining -- when they were direct examining the fiancee said he never mentioned a gun, couldn't they have played this phone call with him and her from jail saying even on this call he never mentioned a gun, and let them also hear the kinds of thoughts this man had by putting this into the trial? >> no. the judge would not have allowed that in. that statement would have been more prejudicial than probative. they could have gotten easily in the statement that he did not mention he had a gun because he asked that question earlier. so that wouldn't have been an impeaching kind of statement. the judge was very clear that you can't put in these kinds of statements after the fact unless they go directly to the issue at hand. these are not admissions. they're verbal tirades. certainly they would be prejudicial and they would have been help to the prosecution. but the judge already ruled after the fact they would not come in. the only way they would come into evidence is during a cross-examination of mr. dunn he makes some statement that opens the

the medical examiner found evidence of sexual assault. a rape test kit recovered biological evidence, presumably of the perpetrator. unfortunately, dna testing wasn't yet available. >> crimes in 1985 were a lot harder to solve, just based on technology. there are certain things that we could yield dna profiles from today you wouldn't be able to get back then. >> as the weeks went by and the number of leads started to dwindle, investigators continued to search for julie's killer, knowing full well they had no forensic evidence to identify him. but it didn't stop them from trying. >> at this particular time when this incident occurred, some weird things were happening in that area. >> seven months before julie's murder, the body of a missing 15-year-old girl was discovered just three miles away. her body was so badly decomposed, the cause of death couldn't be determined. and two months before julie's murder, a 10-year-old girl was found dead, hanging in a tree in the woods just two miles from julie's convenience store. since these crimes ha