as an example, you take... you put one in place, but at the same time you take a large number of lower and middle-income tax roles, taxpayers, out of the income tax system. so they wouldn't be paying income taxes anymore, they'd only be playing value added taxes, state and local taxes, property taxes and so forth. that's one version of a relatively progressive value-added tax. none of them are going to be perfectly progressive and the argue against them is they're not progressive enough. but almost every one of the other really advanced societies in the world today has a value-added tax. and whether we should have one or not would depend on whether we could structure one to be progressive enough to fit the american way. if we could, i think it's something this which we would have to very seriously explore. the other alternatives in many cases don't raise enough money and in some cases are less palatable. >> rose: if i was president of the united states and i surrounded myself with all these gh powered minds lik

i give you an example. today you have many arab or muslim countries which are still very poor. not all of them but i am talking mostly about non-oil-producing countries like egypt and he would listen to many pundits say and they are poor because they're muslim, they don't have the right religion and islam is not stressing enough responsibility or they think that everything is destiny, if everything is destiny there is no reason to invest in the future you just wait and see what will happen to you. so this was a common explanation for the poverty of a country like egypt. like in the 50's you had the dominant explanation sinking that the asian people because they were never able to grow because there is no interest in the future and people keep repeating the same gesture. and what happens today under our own eyes and it occurred in less than 25 years that when you apply the right economic policy that happens to be the same everywhere, the five principles i quoted to apply everywhere starts very capitally. i mentioned egypt is growing. china is growing, india is growing. india is

the example here is a feature called start over. time warner is actually doing this where i can now hit start over, and it'll start from the beginning of the program. >> host: so it doesn't matter whether it's recorded on to a video recorder or a dvr, you're watching realtime shows. >> guest: this is realtime shows that i did not record previously. this is to add more features to people who do have the recording aspect as well as enhancements for current devices that don't have the recording capabilities. >> host: you said some technologies are available now, is most of it or some coming to market? what's the time frame? >> guest: so as i said before the starter is currently available, the alarm in the home automation, that's actually in field trials, the intercontent itself, that's starting to be in trials itself. so really everything we're looking at is almost in trials. the sync-in with the mobile devices is just starting to go into field trials. >> host: one more interview to show you, this time courtesy of cable net which was a

is an example of collaboration and innovation that i think should be highlighted and applauded.re was terrific collaboration, from what i understand, across the agency. we see it here in bureaus and offices, working together, combining different expertise towards a very clear mission of making sure the fcc did everything it could to help with the transition. it is an example of how affectively the commission can work when it works together and how to effectively the staff and work when there is communication and collaboration across bureaus. i would like to note the collaboration across the government, the collaboration with the commerce department, the collaboration with the white house, the collaboration with other government agencies. knowing that no transition is perfect and there is work left to do, that is an example of good government and what can happen when different parts of our government work together with the goal of doing the right thing for the american people. we should and we will focus on all the lessons learned from this. i would ask you to pull out what went

actually, you talk about rework, great example of rework. because, as these repairs are ongoing, the logistics contractor, essential to do it so they can had been tate this, kbr, is doing hutch of the work the turkish company -- came in and voided the warranted, because they came in and approved everything. and the only way you could physically approve it is to not be physically there. because, in just this list, where we asked for an information paper from the responsible personnel, major issues, septic, electrical, ceiling tiles falling down. 250 missing. fire alarm system and these are big deals, power generator, kitchen exhaust. >> who -- was kbr responsible for managing the work in that turkish outfit. >> no. no. that was a separate contractor. >> and the prime -- >> yes, sir, kbr came to the rescue but that is all rework. >> so, now, do we know whether or not the army corps of engineer official who was responsible for that was ever dismrinld. >> no, we don't and that is the accountability issue. somewhere -- and that is commissioner sh

for example, the 706 report due next february. there is the broadband data improvement act which at some -- which asks for various things. biggio is doing some benchmarking that we need to respond to. -- the gao is doing some benchmarking that we need to respond to. we need to do this in an integrated manner. we're looking at very similar debtor the analytic work is similar. the approach and recommendations should be consistent@@@@@@@ @ @ come out with the 706 and get those comments into the record. we will continue the process. this really leads us to thinking about this as an initiative. on broadband beckons our ongoing policy deliberations. we will deliver a plan by the date of february 17. the broadband work will be far from over for this commission. it is important that the information stays here as the engine city continues as the expert agency on these issues. just like the dtv thing, as scott so wonderfully coordinate the effort starting off under your auspices, commissioner cox, he will involve all the bureaus. i want to

every one of those examples is already happened. and so it forces us to ask the question are we going to let the fact that this looks like science fiction, sounds like science fiction keep us in denial that this is already a reality or another way of thinking about this are we going to be like the previous generation that looked at another science-fiction technology which h. g. wells, the sci-fi writer called atomic bombs. h. g. wells is the first one who came up with the name and first, with the concept and the previous generation looked at atomic bombs and said this isn't something we have to wrestle with all the political moral ethical military legal dilemmas the are going to come out of these until after pandora's box is already opened are we going to do the same. now i could be wrong and in fact one scientist who worked for the pentagon told me i was wrong and this is what he said. there is no real ethical moral problem that he could contemplate with robots. quote, that is unless the machine kills the wrong people repeatedly. t

a typical example that i got was an e-mail that in the title line said, watch this. we'll get e-mails like this, watch this and the clip attachment b of a really cold dawn devitt basketball game or a clip of some kid in his basement dancing. we'll get those cliffs. in this case the clip, the watch this was the the predators drone strike. the missile drops, goes to target, explosions, bodies tossed into the air. id was set to music. it was set to the pop song, i just want to fly. so, we have this ability to watch war but experience less when it comes to our wars. they have this warping effect because it is very easy to forget when you are watching the eclipse the of the violence is real. it is easy to forget that not everyone is fighting from afar. even more so, it is just the clips so it is almost imagine, the difference in the terms of a basketball game, watching the basketball game on tv where the basketball players are tiny figures. first is watching the basketball game in person where you can see what someone who is 7 feet tall really does look like. versus the e

for example, the duke case is one example. conservatives knew very early the case was bogus. people who i would speak to about it didn't know. if the only read "the new york times" the simply didn't know. just now there are, there's all this talk now about the chrysler dealerships at least on the conservative websites and maybe it will expand. i am not sure, and i take it with a grain of salt, but the chrysler dealerships that were targeted for extinction were largely those who had been donors to mccain during the campaign and none of the big donors to obama. which were shot down. now, i couldn't have that conversation whether it is true or not remains to be seen, but no 1i know in my neighborhood has heard about this except me. every conservative i know is hyper aware of this, so conservatives tend to know about stuff that goes on in their whirled and stuff that goes on in the mainstream world. >> host: in the past conservatives are almost always satirists because you have to have something that is set before you can make fun of it. that's why all the brits -- george was a g

back in the 19th century george bancroft for example had a full team of people. if i had had another couple of years and a couple more sabbaticals and mike editor had not been so impatient, i might have gone over and spend a couple of years looking through british archives. i felt, and still do feel that that was, there was the point of diminishing returns on this kind of thing, and there is only one of list that has ever surfaced of british prisoners kept on a jersey, about 8,000 names that were collected back in the middle of the 19th century. but, as far as i know and as far as anybody has ever been able to find, there are no other lists of that kind. my strong sense is that, if such evidence existed it would have been discovered by now. >> the people that are captured with ethan allen? >> those kinds of records, sure. >> their names of people who were in candidate, not necessarily in new york. one of the questions was who was in the sugarhouse, but what did you do with the database of the names that you did collect? >> it is sitting on my computer. >> it migh

for example, in the logcap program it's cost-type contract, it's dollar for dollar. all the subcontracts are fixed price. so the prime gets dollar for dollar on the fixed price and all of their labor but it's a fixed price. so it kind of begs the question what -- how good of a job is being done with that, there are foreign firms that are involved with that, what kind of data analysis and records are we going to be evaluated? that's the frustration you see in the report and that's the obligation of the prime contractor but we're going to be looking at the prime contractor system to be sure that they're fulfilling their contractual requirements. >> well, that sort of analysis look at the inhouse versus contractor accounts there were mess sergeants which is better for the taxpayers turn up the soldiers salaries if necessary. and similarly, are there rules of thumb evolving or maybe already existing in terms of the amount of contracting oversight per dollar of spent, you know, that as a rule of thumb you want one person on the ground overseeing every $20 million of money

it is now realize it and organize around it, that's the story of the tank for example. we have a challenge right now, what is the doctrine on how you use these systems and i remember one capt. and out in the middle east said think it is not let's think this better, it is only give me more and that we have gone from saying we don't want these unmanned systems to we want them as much as possible and if you that the defense budget is the one part growing by around 200% per year but we still haven't figured out what is the best way to utilize and how you organize and is a mother ship model of warfare in terms of you've got a system that essentially controlled so it is concentrated command and control the distributed firepower or is in a swarm of war were you have decentralize command and control but conversion firepower. these are two different models, which is right and wrong? choose right you have greeted the blitzkrieg, so that is one part of the sink and the other is the defense industrial complex. what is we build which can often share the doctrine and a concern is tha

that's where to go. >> charlie: give me an example of that. >> one example is here is a chap who has had a head injury, or in fact sometimes just schizophrenia, and he looks at his mother and says, "this woman is an impostor. she's not my mother." sometimes it takes a slightly paranoid flavor. she's coming after me. she's not really my mother. the amazing thing about these syndromes is the chap is completely normal in other respects. he can do mathematics. he plays chess. he laughs. he sings. he's social. >> charlie: he doesn't recognize his mother. >> he recognizes in the sense that she looks like her but there is no empathy. why is this happening? the standard psychiatric freudian view has been "what's going on here is all of us when we're little babies, we have a strong sexual attraction to your mother, so-called oedipus complex, freud" -- i'm not saying i believe this but it's the freudian view then as the child grows into adulthood the cortex shows up and inhibits these latent sexual urges, therefore when you look at your mother you're not sexually turned on, thank god, right? t

so for example at n.y.u. medicai last sixñr months of life on average medicare beneficiaries are spending 31 days in the hospital at n.y.u. medical, only 1 days at some ford medical. >> rose: why is there a difference? >> i think variation is greatest when we have least... the least idea as to what should happen. so there's not that much variation in... i don't know, in administering an aspirin or beta blocker when someone is admitted to the hospital with a heart attack. a lot more variation in how we treat back pain or knee pain or what have you. we also have a payment system that will accommodate or facilitate just doing more rather than doing what's best. who would want to spend more time in the hospital than was necessary? who would want to have a unnest tests done if they're not improving the outcome and then the question is how you get at that. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think the way you get at that is health i.t. so that you can really start measuring and having the data necessary to observe much more pr

for example what is an example of last resort? what is an example of "limitedly." >> the answer is, judges in the manner in which that question was responded to was to the extent that there has been a violation of the constitution in whatever manner a court identifies in a particular case, it has to try to remedy that situation in the most narrow way in order not to intrude on the functions of other branchs or actors in the process. the case that i was discussed in my history has been the dove case where i joined the panel decision where the district court had invalidated a statute that -- found unconstitutional a statute that the legislature had passed on national security letters. our panel reviewed that situation and attempted to discern and did discern congress's intent to be that despite a isolated provisions that might have to be narrowly construed to survive constitutional review, it held that the other provisions of the act were constitutional. so the vast majority, contrary to what the district court did, and i am not sug

so, use the example of how we got zarqawi in the end, the top al qaeda leader in iraq. we could not find him, so while it was a military problem it was an intelligence problem. the jordanians got a human intel chip that zarqawi was seeking the advice of a new religious leader. so they passed on the human intelligence stick to a loss and our intel analysts said this is an important tip. we are going to use this so they couldn't find zarqawi savitt popped a set of drones over that religious leader who they could find. and you couldn't have him followed 24/7 by troops on the ground. they would have stood out so 24/70 followed this guy everywhere he went and one by the see him go to a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere and that is where he was meeting with zarqawi. the john puts a laser target, f-16's comes and blows up and that is how we get zarqawi. the question is this: which was the operation? was it six minutes the f-16 pilot flew in and dropped computer guided bombs or was it the whole back and of both robotic and human that gets you to that point which was the operat

let me give you a very specific example. you have heard that as a consequence of our efforts at reform, the pharmaceutical industry has already said they're willing to put $80 billion on the table. and why is that? well, the reason is because there is probably even more waste than $80 billion in terms of how the drug plan in medicare is administered. we might be able to get 100 billion out. or more. but the pharmaceutical industry voluntarily said "here is $80 billion." you know what that -- what that means? that means that senior citizens who right now have a so-called doughnut hole in their plan, where after spending a certain amount on prescription drugs suddenly they drop off a cliff and they've got to pocket the entire cost, suddenly half of that is filled. that's a hard commitment that we already have. so that's a change in how we are delivering medicare, but you know what? it turns out that it means out-of-pocket savings for seniors. that's why aarp has endorsed us. ok. christie parsons. >> [inaudible] promised that h

membership-based, for example, on ones race or sexual orientation. at kennedy's confirmation hearing, pete wilson, former governor of california, and u.s. senator, said in support of ken dip's nomination, i think it strikes him, justice kennedy, as terribly unfair that anyone's individual potential should be in any way limited by there being classed as a member of a group and treated in accordance with their group membership rather than what they deserve to receive as individuals. that perfectly sums up the humane element of kennedy's jurisprudence. when the government treats people differently because of their race, even if this treatment is positive, kennedy says that only strict scrutiny will do. it is worth noting however, that this is strict scrutiny according to justice kennedy. because his formulation of this test is not one that finds much agreement on the court, and is certainly one that, although in race-based cases, generates a color blind reading of the constitution, that color blind reading certainly is nothing like as absolutist as that

so that's an example. netflix would be an older example of a company that essentially we took a small investment position in very early on in the company and actually helped build that business to a substantial business which is public today. >> host: where's the growth in i.t. and in electronics? >> guest: that's a good question. i mean, it's not a business or it's not an industry -- well, there are very few growth industries these days, but i would say we feel that there are some opportunities as it relates to making things simpler. so if you look at a lot of the products and services that will be coming out, we believe the emphasis will be on value and simplification of things. so, for example, some of the voiceover ip kind of topics that i just talked about, that's making things affordable, simple and easy to use. we also see a pretty interesting opportunity as it relates to digital media. obviously, there's a transition going on. the key question is how do you make money with all the different constit

i will give you one specific example. i think there was legitimate concern that we have not incorporated all of the measures that could reduce health care inflation over the long term. in some of the versions of health care reform that were coming out of committee. over the last week, working with not only health care experts but also members of congress who are concerned about this, we actually have now got a commitment to incorporate an idea that has a panel of doctors and health care experts advising on how we can get a better value for our money in medicare. and, every expert out there says this can be a valuable tool to start reducing inflation over the long term. so, can i say this though? if we hadn't had any kind of deadline, that change probably would have never surfaced until who knows when. and, so, i want to do this right, but the american people need some relief. chuck todd. >> thank you our. where just talking on that question about reducing health care inflation, reducing costs. can you explain how you are

have you seen examples of that and to the extent you have seen examples even though you may not want to make policy implications what do you think that might suggest in terms of whether it is u.s. foreign policy or aid organization policies could be directed to promote the development of additional initiatives. >> certainly traditionalism and fundamentalism are not equivalent concept and fundamentalism in many ways is a kind of modern phenomenon. it is a modern bees lawyer to recreate a traditionalism that maybe never actually existed. all the same hue often see people organizing and militating advance women's rights not just any kind of religious ideas that may be in the name of like african values or something like that for nicaraguan values is a good example but absolutely there are women, people working on the ground all over the world to try to combine things they tell you in their culture with new, you know, new nodes to the come lotus of gender, new ways of dealing with women's rights and one example i will give you quickly is in kenya where there is this astonishing and kind

that's an example from chicago, but we're getting examples from around the country, stories and questions. here's how you can send them in. get in touch with us there. cnn.com/newsroom and also facebook.com/joshlevsc facebook.com/joshlevscnn. we're going to be getting people a lot of answers, the role of parents, the media, the church and religious institutions. there's no holds barred. we're going to ask the experts. >> we want you to join us here and be a part of this conversation. we want it get to the nuts and boements of this whole thing. we both know we've been work on this problem for 50 years in this country and a lot of the pat answers that people roll out have not worked. so we're going to look hard at what those might have been and what might be different now if people can come up with these ideas and try them. stay around with us. i'm robert shapiro. over a million people have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. protect your famil

so again, just one example of this. .. government the government of the united states was shocked that our government did not publicly protest to the fact that there are more than 20 west german publishing firms that publish memoirs of leading nazis.. a range of political issues of the day, including but not limited to civil-rights, the efforts to change the immigration laws of the united states, those laws that had been on the books since the 1920's and based on explicitly racial and national categories, lobbying for the genocide convention, exposing the eastern bloc anti-semitism, exposing suppression of civil liberties in this great anticommunists heyday of the posed for period, combatting proliferation of right-wing groups and seeking to win support for israel, all the loud or required american jews to, differently, talk about the holocaust within their own communal circles and to the larger public as the opportunities arose. that is, they couch their political working in the idiom of the holocaust. they did not pose i

debbie, you are example a, and we appreciate you sharing your story. we are going to try to find ways to help you immediately. but the long term problem here is going to be how do we create a system in which debbie is getting the preventive care that she needs and is able to get regular check ups, is able to get treatment in a way that is much more cost efficient than the one we've got right now, and i'm going to make a commitment that we are going to get that done this year. all right? [applause] >> anybody who needs medical treatment can get free treatment for the 24th, 25th and 26th of july. >> we will help advertise that. >> if you would like to showcase why there is a need. i think it is 7,000 people get treatment there every day of those days that it is free. >> which is a wonderful program. but i think as senator warner and governor kaine would agree, we can't have a system that is relying on three days of free care and 362 days in which people don't have health care. that doesn't make any sense. debbie, thank you for sharing your story. we appr

for example@@@@@@@ "r) federal reserve to encourage the flow of credit for example the decline in thees and spreads was facilitated by the actions of the federal reserve and other banks to ensure financial institutions have adequate access to short-term liquidity which in turn increased stability of the banking system and the ability of banks to lend. interest rates and spreads on commercial paper dropped significantly as a result of the liquidity facilities the federal reserve introduced last fall for that market. quote purchases of mortgage backed securities and other long-term assets helped lower conforming fixed mortgage rates and asset backed securities loan facility or to talf help restart the markets for various causes of consumer and small-business credit. earlier this year the federal reserve and other federal banking regulatory agencies undertook the supervisory capital assessment program popularly known as the stress test to determine the capitol needs of the largest financial institutions. the results were reported in may and appear to have increased investor confidence in

i'll give you an example.the other day we had some of our code had this bug -- we had a bug in our drone code, think about that for a second. they had a bug and we were busy with something else and we couldn't fix it and people were hassling us and we just opened it up. we said here's the code seven hours later the community had fixed it. the problem is we don't have enough time to think all the various applications so what's happening is like i don't want to make a drone or a helicopter or a balloon or rocket or whatever and they take our code and they evolve it to suit these other markets. we're like you know do that what you want. give us credit if you want so how can we make a business out of this? >> yeah, how do you make our money. >> if you take all our stuff and make your own -- if you're a chinese company you can rip us off and make the products and sell us and you don't have to pay us a penny. if you want to buy it from us we'll charge you 2.6 times from us. and why would anyone buy from us. we built

sorn command for example is -- southern command is also like that, where the deputy is from the state department. for the time being, you only have two sort of c 130s, that you control the 17th air force at this point. what are some of the other capabilitys that your air force needs, whether in terms of training aircraft, transport aircraft, strike aircraft, and even c4 isr, commanding control unmanned air vehicles. >> we have the spectrum of specialties that we need to support whatever we're doing on the continent. now, we do have two aircraft that we brought forward, but we actually give great support from other commands, like u.s. transportation command, european command, where they will send aircraft to support whatever might be going on in the continent. for example, i know that you know the president just passed through there, and we use c17 from us transportation command and air mobility command to support that effort. when we work with militarys in other countries, we require the spectrum. it can be instructors, it can be maintenance personnel, air traffic controllers, so we r

i'll give you one specific example. i think there was legitimate concern that we had not incorporated all of the measures that could reduce health care inflation over the long term. in some of the versions of health care reform that were coming out of the committee. well, over the last week, working with not only health care experts but also members of congress who were concerned about this, we actually have now gotten a commitment to incorporate an idea that has a panel of doctors and health care experts advising on how we can get a better value for our money in medicare. and every expert out there says this can be a valuable tool to start reducing inflation over the long term. so can i say this, though? if we hadn't had any kind of deadline, that change probably never would have surfaced until who knows when? and so, you know, i want to do this right burks the american people need some relief. chuck todd. >> thank you, sir. you were just talki ining in th question about reducing costs and health care inflation. is it

i will give you one specific example. there was legitimate concern we had not incorporated all of the measures that could reduce health care inflation over the long term. in some of the versions of health care reform that were coming out of the xheechcommitt. over the last week, working with not only health care experts but also members of congress concerned about this, we actually have now gotten a commitment to incorporate an idea that has a panel of doctors and health care experts advising on how we can get a better value for our money in medicare. and every expert out there says this can be a valuable tool to start reducing inflation over the long term. so can i say this, though? if we hadn't had any kind of deadline? that change probably would have never surfaced until who knows wh when? so i want to do this right, but the american people need some relief. chuc chuck. >> thank you, sir. we're just talking in that question about reducing the health care inflation, reducing costs, can you explain how you're going to ex

at the example goldman hasn't been smarter than other people but they are better connected. goldman is extremely well connected now what is different about goldman that some of the other investors for more investment banks? some of them have been in merged into banks and some of those banks merged with other banks that weren't doing so well so they're mixed in with some weak sisters and right now as some of those mergers have weekend for court the banking system and they weren't doing as well as goldman in the first place. but they're not as weak as it would have been. let me finish. if you look at what happened with a i t as an example goldman get an immediate transfer of about 8.1 billion and collateral from aig because it was the counterparties cut some of those aig cut had been training with aig prior to that prior to the bailout of the id you got more than 7 billion from aig in a really pressured a i t in pressured aig auditor. so if they could get more collateral out of the idea before they failed in a get enormous windfall of collateral after a i t fail if they never

the doctorurns around, or a hospital turns around and lls medica, for example, for severe bronchitis, an ho long is doctorisit which of course never took place, and a nebulizer. >> reporter: auerbach, nown ivate practice, says healthcare fraud eends to otherwise legitimate cpanies. mercand tenet healthcare are rent examples, both paid hundreds of miions to settle frauallegations. >> the reason that hapns and the reason it's so devastati to the sysm is the cost to the system are so much highe they've decid to take the gale. they think they're not gng to gecaught. and unrtunately, in most cases they don'tet caught. >> reporr: which brings up a final question. can cracking down onedicare fraud real pay off? south florida often considered aapital for medicare fra. over the past four yea, federal teams recovered 50 million dollar the mo recent data shows the medicarerust fund recoups nearly $800 million year from fraud investigions. as the nation detes health care rorm, and how it's paid for, former prosecuts like auerbach say recoverinmore money from medicare fraud uld make a big differen

i'll give you one specific example. i think there was legitimate concern that we had not incorporated all of the measures that could reduce health care inflation over the long term. in some of the versions of health care reform that were coming out of the committee. well, over the last week, working with not only health care experts but also members of congress who were concerned about this, we actually have now gotten a commitment to incorporate an idea that has a panel of doctors and health care experts advising on how we can get a better value for our money in medicare. and every expert out there says this can be a valuable tool to start reducing inflation over the long term. so can i say this, though? if we hadn't had any kind of deadline, that change probably never would have surfaced until who knows when? and so, you know, i want to do this right burks the american people need some relief. chuck todd. >> thank you, sir. you were just talking in that question about reducing costs and health care inflation. is it fa

for example an abortion where an organization of which you were an active leader argued that the constitution requires taxpayer money to fund abortions, and gun control where dew recently noted the second amendment does not prevent a city or state from barring gun ownership. private property, where you ruled recently that the government could take property from one developer and give it to another. capital punishment, were you personally signed a statement opposing the reinstatement of the death penalty in new york because of the in human psychological burden it places on the offender and the family. so, help the american people will follow these hearings closely. they should learn about the issues and listen to both sides of the argument and at the end of the hearing, if i must one day go to court, what kind of judge do i wish to hear my case? do i want a judge that allows his or her social, political or religious views to change the outcome or do i want a judge that impartially applies the law to the facts and fairly rules on the merits without bias or prejudice? it is our job to determine

i've had a number of conversations, for example, with olympia snowe. and so the decision was made to give them more time for the finance committee part of what we're trying to do. and i don't think it's unreasonable. this is a complex, difficult issue. the-- as you know the help committee worked a month. the finance committee, working to come up with a bipartisan bill, have worked longer than that. >> reporter: reid said he still hopes for a committee vote on a bi-partisan bill before the month-long break. it would have to be merged with a democratic measure that another committee already passed. on the house side today, the energy and commerce committee chairman, henry waxman, met again with fiscally conservative democrats. they're pressing to rein in costs in the house democrats' trillion dollar bill. but at a briefing, speaker nancy pelosi stood by her claim that she has the votes to pass health care reform soon, even though some members of her own party have said otherwise. >> i'm more confident than ever. when we work out some of the differences t

. >> rose: let me give you one small example or one large example of what people say is our vulnerability. that if there was an atomic weapon the size of the weapon that was used in japan at nagasaki or hiroshima, it could come into this country undetected by the present detection technology. >> well, i think it could. if it came in a particular way. and i think that our goal is to shut down those particular ways. and then the issue is, well, who would bring it, what ability would they have to assemble it, use it, in a way to cause massive damage. and the reason i point that out is because that's not the type of an attack that's done by a loan wolf. that kind of an attack would require somebody with scientific knowledge, access to certain types of materials. that means you have a group. that means you have planning. and the more you have a group, the more you have planning, the more your intelligence has the ability to intercept and interdict. >> rose: what worries you the most? >> well, nuclear certainly. i think as well biological, chemical weapon of mass destruction used by a group tha

>> it is difficult to get into the specifics of that, but i can give you an example where we made an investment in a voice- over ip related company. i can tell you that it is a very significant driver for that category for us today. netflix would be an older example of a company where we took a small investment position early on in the company and actually helped build that business to a substantial business which is public today. >> where is the growth in i.t. and electronics? >> it is not a business or an industry -- there are very few growth industries these days, but i would say we feel there are some opportunities as it relates to making things simpler. if you look a lot of the products and services that will be coming out, we believe the emphasis will be on value and simplification of things. some of the voice-over ip type of products i just talked about are the focus of it. making things affordable and easy to use. we see an interesting opportunity as it relates to digital media. obviously there's a transition going on. how do you actually make money with all the different con

now the cabinet member could be someone like secretary of agriculture, john block, for example, someone who didn't know national security. but the person who would really know how to run the show would be a former white house chief of staff. and so both dick cheney and don rumsfeld who both served as white house chief guesseses -- chiefs of staffs participated in these exercises and still relevant to some of the issues i'll talk about is they would go to different places each time. sometimes abandoned school yards. why? they did that because the earlier responses of the 1950s had been to create these famous bunkers outside washington in virginia, mount whether. and by the 1980s, 30 years later, the fear was nuclear weapons could damage or somehow get to these fixed facilities. so the idea was mobility, surprise and so on. and as i looked into this -- i wrote about this at some length. and the thing that bothered me the most was that there was no constitutional or legal basis for this. congress was not part of it. this is not a procedure that congress set up. congress was taken out of th

in the last year, i have seen example after example of that of the american red cross. i go to a lot of our blood collection sites. i met a woman who donates blood because she has a 3-year-old child with leukemia and she gets a lot of blood transfusions. i met a man whose best friends was in a car accident and had 12 blood transfusions and this is the way he gives back. i actually met a man in his 60s who had donated 49 gallons of blood. and when i asked him why he would do such a thing, he said it's because i love the american red cross and it's the right thing to do. i met a mother who thanked me for how the red cross helped her in her time of need when she lost her son in afghanistan. i also had the privilege of attending a wal-mart store meeting where there were thousands of store managers, and i tested out the following. i was told that 1 in 5 people in the united states have been touched by the american red cross. so i asked the store manager, stand up if you donated blood and raise a hand if you've had cpr training and raise a hand if you've had lifeguard trainin

let me use an example. back inie nopt only did we have the issue of the linkage of performance to the actual fee paid. there was another issue raised that if a contractor did not earn the whole fee or a portion of the fee during a particular evaluation period, the government would just role that amount that wasn't earned into the next evaluation period. so essentially the contractor had a second chance at earning that award fee. and we pointed that out. and in that work in 2005 we show that it was like 665 million that was being rolled over to the next evaluation period and contracts were getting a second chance at a fee when they didn't earn it in the original fee period. so we had some recommendations that that type of process be prohibited or limited. host: and you weren't just looking at d.o.d. you also looked at other agencies. veragetteds correct. we followed up on our d.o.d. work but we also looked at the five agency that is represent about 95% of the contracts that use cost plus fee. and that would