before we excavate. when we bring in the bring in the it structure across the east end, and when we do that structural steel, we will start in the middle of the building and work in both directions so that as we bring the steel across we will be bringing the substructure up in the eastern zone and then be able to continue as they move across it. >> where is the bus terminal? is it in the east or west, zone 1, down two, or what? rex it covers the -- >> it covers the eastern side. the bus back level runs from the zone one of a way to the east end in zone four. >> you think sometime in 2014 we will start seeing little walls going up? >> by 2014 we should be completing the substructure in zone 1. made in 2014 we will start the steel erection. by the end of 2015, the superstructure should be topping out. the structural steel should be complete. >> thank you. >> and i can work with steve and we can incorporate -- you know, it has been awhile since we have shown the overall schedule. we can incorporate that int

the artifacts that had been recovered from date, both from the recent excavations and the earlier excavations are kept at the washington navy ward in the underwater archaeology, archaeology and conservation laboratory. things recently recovered are in need in conservation, are being preserved there. >> my name is george schwartz, and i'm an underwater archaeologist and conservator. the site was originally discovered in 1979, and it was -- it was excavated in the early 1980s by another group. and they recovered a large number of artifacts. basically what they did is they discovered the site, they mapped it and they recovered about 180 artifacts, and they were found to be in very good state of preservation. but they were conserved and put on display at a museum in maryland to commemorate barney's test fleet flotilla. what we have here, a collection of artifacts recovered in 2010 and 2011. right now they are all in storage solutions because essentially what we need to do is keep the artifacts wet because if they dry out in an uncontrolled manner, they can deteriorate and essentially fall apart.

with the excavations, what you see here is the completed excavation of this site. we've excavated all the structural remains that were -- that had feature soil, we excavated the yard surfaces, and what happens to all the artifacts is that each one of these units, each of the 5 by 5 unit is separate, all the artifacts are taken down to the lab for processing. here is a piece of -- oh, very cool. this is like a piece of glass, bottle glass, but it's either melted or like it looks like it molded glass, very thin glass. that is really neat. haven't seen one these in a long time but it's clear. i bet that is some of the flask-type glass. archeology lab is a short walk from the house. previous ceramics were restored. in the lab what we have is two different areas, a working deck where we process and power wash all our rock and brick that we recover from the site. and what we also have is a water screening station, where we take the soil samples that we bring back here and instead of putting them to the quarter inch screen like we do at the site, we wash it through window

the artifacts recovered from this excavation and earlier excavations are kept at the washington navy yard in the underwater archaeology gallery. >> i'm george schwartz. the site was originally discovered in 1979, and it was -- it was excavated in the early 1980s by another group. and they recovered a large number of artifacts. basically what they did is they discovered the site, they mapped it and they recovered about 180 artifacts, and they were found to be in very good state of preservation. but they were con served and put on display, and examined in maryland to commemorate barney's test fleet flotilla. what we have here, a collection of artifacts recovered in 2010 and 2011. right now, all in storage solutions, because essentially what we need to do is keep the artifacts wet. if they dry out in an uncontrolled manner, they can deteriorate and essentially fall apart. we have organic materials, metal materials, sometimes a combination of both. ceramics and glass. each one is in its own particular solution so that it's well preserved until treatment can take place. treatment can take

with the excavations, what you see here is the completed excavation of this site. we've excavated all the structural remains that had feature soil. we've excavated yard surfaces. what happens to all the artifacts is each one of these units, each of these 5 x 5 units are excavated separately. and all those artifacts are taken down to the lab for processing. here is a piece of -- oh, very cool. this is like -- it's a piece of glass, bottle glass but it's either melted or -- it looks like those molded flasks. that's really neat. but it's clear. i bet that's some of that flask-type glass. the archaeology lab is a short walk down the hill from the mansion, and we have it open to the public. visitors come down to see artifacts we found at the site. previous ceramics we've restored. in the lab, we've got a working deck where we process and power wash all our rick and brick we recover from the site. what we also have is a water screening station where we take the soil samples that we bring back here and instead of putting them to the quarter inch screen like we do at the s

gerd >> did any of the work require excavation hamas -- require excavation? >> just for the foundations. >> were you are approached in an effort to try to understand what the project was about, or were you not the contact person bowman -- the contact person? >> the first i heard was when the project was suspended. >> thank you. >> anything further? the issue is yours, so the standard of review it is discussion. >> thank you for the reminder. >> we get a lot of these cases were clearly people are being neighborly and not communicative in figuring out what the improvements are and the design. we do not necessarily regulates staff. it seems like based on the planning assessment, this was done to code. they are the minimum size required. we just do not have the big systems to overturn this permit. we encourage people to solve these cases, but we cannot necessarily dictate. i am inclined to uphold the permit. good >>> the heavy constructionk for seismic and foundations is done, and the irritation that occurs through the construction is heavily over. the problem is

>> you cannot do this, but there has been a lot of excavation. i have no idea if it was damaged, but he could look at my foundations, and i was told nothing. i know that is probably outside of your scope, but i would like to have the design review at least of the stairs. >> they are out of the rhythm of the neighborhood. how far beyond the standard size of stairs are they? >> i am not sure the standard, but they are three times more than anyone else. >>, when we use a larger, are you talking about the amount of space it takes in the backyard? >> the stairs were three and a half feet, but they were circular, and they did not take as much. this could be 8 feet wide, so i think that is substantially more than necessary. >> is it your believe that the other neighborhoods have -- the other houses have circular stairs salmon -- circular stairs? >> no, but everyone is trying to comply with the law to make it as minimal as possible while still maintaining the safety. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. i am helping the project sponsor on this a

as if it was a dry excavation on land. we can have more control with the archaeology by doing that, but it also presents us the opportunity to bring the public out to the site, let them see the ongoing excavation in process and ask questions and help with the whole interpretation of the war of 1812 and help to perhaps make the american public more aware of the war of 1812 and the naval action that was part of that war. i might mention, too, that this is only the second dry coverdam that's been done for an archaeological site in the united states. the previous example was that done in texas in mad gorda bay for the french explorer lasalle, the vessel laval, and this is the only second time something like this has been. we think that we will be able to put the steel coverdam around the site, have six months to excavate the site, have six months to use the coverdam, re-excavate the site and then do research and write-up and hopefully have things for exhibit during 2014 while the commemoration is still going on. >> watch "amer

in order to construct the new dam, we need to excavate a good portion of that hillside. here is a schematic of what is happening. in mid-june, we received a letter from a contractor indicating that the encountered unexpected geologic conditions of -- i not left abutment. you can see that, if you look at the right, this is where a the newdam will be built. if you move to the left, you can see a little indentation. you have an existing hillside that we need to cut back to make room for that spillway. eventually, they were going to go to what we call the final design caught. that is the black line that is furthest to the left. in order to remove all the materials, we would be excavating at over 2 million cubic yards of dirt. only 1.3 million cubic yards of that dirt is needed to build a new dam. with the contractor proposed to do is a false cut. it would remove only the excess material. they would take that first cut, remove the material, it disposed it, and then only proceed with a fine cut when they're ready to be using that additional 1.3 million cubic yards of dirt and

bly straube, has anybody done any excavations in that area? >> we have done some preliminary survey of the area and found some interesting hints of early artifacts, 16th century. possibly. and so we have plans to revisit the area very, very soon. >> how much are both of you involved or in contact with your british colleagues on early colonial or precolonial history? >> well, we both have, you know. >> we're both fellows of the society of antiquaries. you have to be elected to join, an honorary english society, british society. it's very old. 200 years old -- 400 years old. i have colleagues -- >> much of the records, are much of the records kept in the uk? are there good records about jamestown, for example? >> well, yeah. most of them are known and have been looked at. and we have transcriptions of them. but, you know, there's always a surprise discovery like we were talking about, the lost colony map. we actually have studied another map in the british museum. it shows -- really shows that the fort -- the actual fort where we found it was al

they are using it for excavation of the far west end. the first-rate bridge is in, and the buttress work continues in zone four. the usual pictures. i know that does not look like it changes much, but another 16 holes put in. now 19 holes with this week's work. the three in yellow are now complete. one of the riebars going in. they have begun to remove rubble out of this intersection and demolish the remaining basement walls. the trestle bridge and shoring. we put in our fall crosswalk shoring this last -- full crosswalk shoring this last period. they are below the second level. take a look at that now. the trestle bridge him shoring up the west end. in the lower right-hand picture, the second level shoring has been installed. now the other significant milestone was the bridge. i have a couple of pictures here. there is demolition on saturday morning. by saturday afternoon they were dropping into sections of the temporary bridge and doing some backfill and welding of the sections together and paving on sunday but the bridge opening monda

and the real problem here is -- the best time we can excavate is during the summer. students are available from field schools. we have one every year. that's also when things heat up around here. so it is a very, very tough, physically challenging operation. >> couple more calls here. lansing, michigan. hi to liz. you're on the air. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. i visited jamestown 30 years ago. and just from watching your program it looks like the development, the research has come much further along than what i had seen. but at the time it was in a small private tour company, and the tour guide at the time said that some of the settlers from jamestown, they were seeking people from eastern europe, specifically like poland, to come and work in glassworking or glassmaking and because of the forests in the area that would have allowed the settlers to build the fires they needed to work the sand to make it into glass. i'm of polish descent. and i've always wondered if that was true or not. is there anything to that from what the tour guide told me 30 years ago?

because we are in the middle of a full-scale excavation. so the main priority is caring for the artifacts as they come in. keeping track of them. keeping them cataloged. we can't do everything. we can't just open the doors and let everybody in because we're just in the middle of all this work. it's possible but it's not that frequent at this point because we're still processing the material. that's an interesting piece. a pistol that -- who knows where it's from. it's from somewhere on the preservation virginia property. it was kept in the national park service collections because we didn't have a collections area before our archaeological project got started. and it looks like it's been through a fire. it's burned. i believe it's early 19th century. it's still -- the cock still has a flint in the jaws. it's really kind of interesting. but i wish i knew where on the island and where on the preservation virginia property it was found. and it could have been turned in the early 20th century. the national park service maintains their own colle

excavation on land. we can have more control with the arc eeology and we can bring the public to the site, let them see that excavation in progress, let them ask questions and help with the interpretation of war of 1812, perhaps make the american public more aware of the war of 1812 and naval action that was part of that war. i might mention, too, this is only the second dry dam done for archaeological site in the united states. previously was done in texas of the 17th century french explorer, this is only the second time anything like this has been done. we think we will be able to put the stealing coffee dam around the site, take the information and data back for conservation, for research, writeup, hopefully have things for exhibit during 2014 while the commemoration is going on. >> watchri

. >>> and excavation working gets underway now, the ktvu channel 2 morning news starts now. >>> good morning, thank you for joining us on this tuesday morning june 12th, i am pam cook. >> let's check your weather and traffic because steve knows. >> well i hope so, dave . we do too. >> and temperatures are in the 50s so it will be in the 50s and 60s for some, fog is not all the way there so it is not making much of a push inland yet. 60s to 90s and it will take a little more to start. >>> traffic is moving well on mission boulevard this morning and also through 580, it is looking good, let's go back to the desk. >>> we are following developing news out of livermore we first told you about this at the city. it left four people without a place to live, good morning lorraine. >> reporter: good morning, the house here is a total loss and you can see it right behind me and they believe it started in the garage but they are still unsure of the exact cause. the firefighters just left after five hours of putting out hot spots. firefightersers say it broke out just after 11:00 last night. they

we just have concerns, obviously, about any excavation impacts along the wall. in that respect, ms. kaplan has assured us that should there be any modifications, ddi modifications, we will get copies of those. she has also promised to provide us with a time line for that excavation to have our engineers meet with them on-site prior to starting a works. we seem to have come a long way since last november and thank you for your consideration. >> i am just adding on to this. i found out that there are a lot of these agreements that the dti make changes and they will get back to the people and it does not happen. i would like if you make your opinion to be very clear to the department of building inspection that the appellate, everybody gets a copy of the changes. >> any other public comment? unless you have other questions, the matter is yours. >> i guess the area. motion would be to grant the appeal and conditioned upon the agreement and the revised and drawing. >> dated march 21, 2012. >> be one of the date of that agreement? >> june 14. >> so moved. >> we have a motion from the vice

john henderson is a lead scientist on the underwater excavation project.i understand your team essentially rebuilt this city in a digital form at the same time giving us a real look through photography, underwater photography, what it looks like. you know, what is the most extraordinary sight that you recall seeing underwater here of this ancient city? >> well, this is the oldest underwater city in the world. and as you said, it was first discovered in 1967, but then there was no work for 40 years. we went babbling using the latest technudge to bring it back to life, to re-create what it was like to live in that city 3,000 years ago. >> how did you know what to rekraekt? >> well, we can base it upon the whole plan of the city exists under water. it's only about three to four meters of water, but you can swim over it. it's a beautiful and amazing experience to do this. you can see streets and courtyards and houses sitting side by side across an area of about eight football fields worth of space. it's just fantastic. >> that is incredible. i'm a diver. and i

we're doing mass excavation. >> what i'm saying is that pedestrian causeway would not be there. it's not like you're going to be hoisting materials above humans while they're walking on the public street, right? >> part of the reason for this appeal is that was our -- originally our plan, not to ever to be to the outside of the causeway but staging everything within the boundaries of our site, construction. these trees are allowed to be removed as the others were. we would never be hoisting over a pedestrian causeway. >> there would be no pedestrian causeway if you weren't allowed to remove those trees. >> correct. >> i just wanted to be clear about that point. thank you. >> thank you. >> we can hear from the department now. ms. short. >> good evening, commissioners. carla short, department of public works, foresty. we were just not convinced that they needed to remove these trees in order to construct the project. i think their brief really focused on how we're preventing the project from happening. we have no intention to prevent or frustrate the project from happening. our in

actually, archaeology of the future will be working with the collections that have been excavated in the past. and we make discoveries in the lab. not everything is discovered in the field. i think people are under the misconception that all the discovery is in that moment outside, but it happens inside as well. and quite a lot, too. so yeah, there's enough to keep us going for a really long time. >> a complete piece. >> you're watching american history tv on c-span 3. and joining us now live from the historic jamestown settlement, bill kelso, the director of the jamestown rediscovery project, the archaeological project, and senior curator, bly straube, who are going to spend the next hour with us. and taking your phone calls and your comments and questions as well. thank you to both of you for joining us on this beautiful saturday afternoon. we'd like to invite our viewers to be part of the conversation, obviously. here are the numbers to use. if you're in the eastern of central time zone, 202-737-0001. for viewers in mountain pacific zones, 202-737-0002. you can also participate by

and we can see from this, this is an archaeological excavation, by the way. this is a real viking longship, longboat. and we can see too the remnants of a mast here. so these are the kinds of vessels that these vikings used to sail out onto the atlantic. now, where did they go? well, we saw on the previous map they went down the coast of europe. they went to the faeroe islands, the shetland islands, ireland, scotland. well, they also ventured a little bit further as well. they ventured over here first to iceland. and again, the journey from the north of scotland to the heberdes islands or the shetland islands, the faeroe islands, toward iceland is not all that far. 300, 400 miles maybe. the vikings began to notice. you might ask why did they sail west at all? because as they saw in the water, they saw debris coming from the west, they also saw birds. so they understood that there had to be something out here. these birds are coming from somewhere. and the debris in the water has to be coming from somewhere. so that's why they sailed west. about the year 800,

we found that site, started finding it two years ago and excavated it through the end of last year. it's a super important place. because the wedding is interesting. and it's interesting to know exactly where pocahontas stood at one point which would be right in front of the altar. but the marriage itself ended what was called the first paletine war. so a period of peace went after that because -- as long as paletin lived, that is. it's a very significant find and a significant event. >> the next caller's from note tommy nutoma, kansas. carine, hello. >> caller: thank you. i teach fifth grade history. and i wonder what are most important topics that i should relate to my students. and if you have know suggestions for resources besides the dvd from today, i'd be interested in knowing those suggestions. >> well, that's a huge question. i don't have my bibliography with me. but i know that there is one volume -- well for fifth grade, i guess it would be a little complicated. but there's a volume of original documents that teachers might want to look at before they talk to their student

. >> well, we have excavated a number of burials. one of which i think the most important of which it was a burial of a captain. we know it was a captain because on the coffin what was left of the coffin there was what looked like a spear, but it turns out it's a leading staff which a captain would carry in front of his troops. and the remains are of a man that was age 36, and that's when the real mastermind according to john smith behind this whole operation here was a man by the name of captain bartholomew gosnold. people don't hear about it, he died that first summer. was only at a jamestown a few months. but he had connections to the crown to get the charter, to form the colony. and he had the connections with money, merchants in london to finance the venture. so, a real unsung hero and i think that's probably of the one most important discoveries made. it's not absolutely positive it's him. we even did dna testing, but all of the evidence right now is circumstantial evidence, points to the fact that this captain was remains of g

there is clearly a great deal of illegal excavation going on here. the signs are everywhere.e are hundreds of holes here. some of these holes are quite extensive. here the looters found what appears to be a cave. they broke through this top layer of rock and then carved out one, two, three, four passageways and chipped away straight down. they were obviously here for a long time. they left behind trash, signs of a fire. if they found anything, no one will know. >> people in one day are destroying everything. they are destroying history. >> reporter: this doctor was once the face of egyptian archaeology. when thieves broke into the egyptian museum during the revolution, he tried to defend the country's treasures. >> they tried to break through for gold. >> reporter: but later he resigned from the antiquities department under pressure, considered too close to the old regime. >> can anyone have any idea how many sites have been looted or encroached upon? >> it's hundreds. >> hundreds? >> hundreds of sites that has been attacked. >> reporter: in fact, we found out there have been

there is clearly a great deal of illegal excavation going on here. the signs are everywhere.hundreds of holes here. some of these holes are quite extensive. here the looters found what appears to be a cave. they broke through this top layer of rock and then carved out one, two, three, four passageways and chipped away straight down. they were obviously here for a long time. they left behind trash, signs of a fire. if they found anything, no one will know. >> people in one day are destroying everything. they are destroying history. >> reporter: this doctor was once the face of egyptian archaeology. when thieves broke into the egyptian museum during the revolution, he tried to defend the country's treasures. >> they tried to break through for gold. >> reporter: but later he resigned from the antiquities department under pressure, considered too close to the old regime. >> can anyone have any idea how many sites have been looted or encroached upon? >> it's hundreds. >> hundreds? >> hundreds of sites that has been attacked. >> reporter: in fact, we found out there have been 5700

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they're using what looks like a mini-excahave a seater, it's -- excavator, it's robotic, they have been focusing their efforts on these bulkhead-sealed doors. now they're trying to remove the second door. they're looking at that robot to see what's going on. this is what it looked hike earlier this evening -- like earlier this evening. these guys are controlling the machine. watch as it breaks paurt chunks of the burp -- apart chunks of the burned up structure. someone walking by could get seriously hurt if part of the building fell. they're hoping the work, which includes clearing the sidewalk, will be done some time tomorrow before the weekend. back out here live, they are going to back up to remove that sealed door. officials are hoping that the repairs to the facade of pier 29 are completed by the beginning of the america's cut in 2013. live in san francisco, reggie kumar, kron4 news. >>> continuing our coverage, the fire department allowed us to go inside pier 29 to see the damage. you can see video of an investigator examining the area near some electrical equipment where the blaz

you go in, and you begin to work, excavate, play with the dancers, and then things began to emerge. you may have a plan that this is what i want to create. here are the ideas i want to play with, but then, you go into the room, and there maybe some fertile ideas that are becoming manifest that are more interesting than the idea you had initially set out to plan. so there has to be this openness for spontaneity. also, a sense that regardless of the deadline, that you have tons of time so the you can keep your creativity alive and not cut it off and just go into old habits. it is a lot like listening. really listening to watch what is going to emerge. i like this thing where you put your foot on his back. let's keep it. were your mind is is how you build your life. if you put it in steel or in failure, it works. that works. it is a commitment. for most artists, it is a vacation and a life that they have committed themselves to. there is this notion that artists continue to do their work because of some kind of the external financial support. if that was taken away, artists would still

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