we will continue the development stages i explained for the excella automation and the excella public portal. we will complete the test cases and do the kick off with our staff. be glad to answer any questions. >> so just what we got your list, we put our list together from the dbi site. have planning got back together with you -- you said 16? >> yes. >> so that list is put together now? >> yes, we're in the process of finalizing that and we'll be sending out that letter. >> do dbi, do we have a meeting before that to look at who's on those lists before they go out, finalize everything. >> i can check on that. >> yeah, it's important that whoever is on this list is a working group. >> we're in the process of contacting those potential members and then releasing the letter. >> planning has the list right now. >> yes. >> could we get that list? >> i'm in the process to reach joan from planning to finalize the list. we get, say, 7, initially they come back with more than that. both sides get an equal number. >> 7? i think it was 14. how do you get consensus with that number of people. ar