and they're trying, i think, to get the jury to know this woman in all of her excentricities, her oddnesstory, and say we're going to lock this woman up, but we will not take the step of imposing the death penalty. >> but she's saying self defense. a throat slit so much the head was almost decapitated. >> that's the vehicle, all of this, whether it's battered woman, self defense, it's just a vehicle, if you will, for the defense to get her up there and try to mitigate and save her from the death penalty. >> her lawyers aren't trying to get her off? >> if they get a not guilty, they'll faint in the courtroom. >> this is all about a death penalty defense. frankly, since the judge is allowing it, it's probably her best sense because she is emerging as a personality, as someone with a history, who is complicated, who is obviously a mess of a human being, but not someone, at least, that they hope, that the jury says we have to take the absolute maximum step and kill her. >> that's really what it is. you put her up there for that long, what you hope for is that the jury is going to say exactly