there is no state or federal law that say wal-mart can't hire excons.hat economists tell us is if you require wal-mart to hire those kinds of people, they will go out of their way to find out how to minimize the number of people they can hire, regardless of whether people have demonstrated they are sorry, or ready to reintegrate into society. any time an employment mandate is adopted it creates these effects. we're seeing it with veterans, handicap and if we add ex-cons it would be the same. >> when we come back, we're going to look at innovative responses to getting felons back on track. >>> welcome back. we're talking about sensible ways to try to reintegrate ex-cons back into society. and waj i think our community has some creative ideas. >> whole bunch of comments . . . >> shameless promotion of killer dave's my favorite cinnamon bread hands down. desmond you are tapped into grass root groups that are really changing things. what is happening? >> first of all i think it is shifting the label ex-felon, or ex-con. we refer to them as returning citizen

>> is our insurance rate concerning excons, aren't they getting candy, they're getting social security numbers, so much financial information? >> exactly, you might as well run a list on craigs list saying free gornment money. i'll give you an anecdote. in 2007, aedicare task force investigated 1,500 random businesses associated with medicare in florida. they found nearly 45u6789 didn't exist. yet those same 500 companies billed the government almost $250 million. if you have nigerian and russian mobs involved, a new york crime family that moved to florida because of medicare. any time the government runs something this massive, whether medicate, medicare, it's like i said, it's free money. it attracts the criminal element the government is like a siv with our money. >> convicted criminal, what do you think of all this? >> i think, look, we are all concerned about our private data compromised. as we saw recently with target. it can happen in the private sector as well as the public sector. i think they do have measures, whether it's background checks orhe exclusive party lists, which i

family have no proof john and clarence anglin survived and are alive now 30 years later they say an excon reported seeing the two on a ranch the two own in brazil. >> the first christmas my mom got a christmas card and my oldest sister got one. and j.w.s girlfriend got one and it was signed joe and jerry. no one knew a joe and jerry. >> it's hard to tell. because you just have them on your mind and you wonder if they are really alive or if you just want to think they are. i don't know that they made it. i've never heard from them myself directly but i hope they did. and i just wish them well. >>> and that's it for this week's second look. i'm frank somerville. we'll see you again next week. jay, should i get rid of this? the hat, the jacket, or the cane? actually, yes. just yes. we're having a yard sale for our social studies class to raise money for unicef. the point is for us to learn about global altruism. no, the point is for us to raise more money than miss cooper's class so we get a pizza and a pool party. your cynicism makes me sad for our world. ease up, delgado. i've seen you wit

there are other issues, florida might have gone for al gore instead of president bush in 2000 if excons retained their right to vote. the call for reform is part of the department's new smart on crime initiative. there are 1.5 million americans behind bars, the attorney general has been pushing the country to rethink mandatory sentences. in august the justice department instructed federal prosecutors to stop charging offenderings with crimes that carried mandatory minimum sentences. >> restoring the franchise on this "inside story." joining us to discuss the barriers to voting and the downstream effects are the president and general counsel for the center for equal tune 2i, director of the american civil liberty unions voting rights problg, and executive director of the sentencing project. and mark was it ever so? is there a history to these restrictions? have they ebbed and flowed through our history? >> well, there is a long history. in some respects it goes back to the time of the founding of this country. the laws were tailored in many cases, but in the last four decades, as the cri

. >>> recovered california is defending its hiring of excons to help people sign up for insurance, but derrick shore says some people are just not convinced. >> i was just completely shocked that they would put somebody in charge that could possibly steal your information. >> reporter: according to data provided to us by covered california of the nearly 4,000 working to sign up people for new policies, 31 counselors have convictions. one, for harm and injury to a child from the early 2,000s. another convicted of two counts of forgery in the 80s . still, they are allowed to access personal information of the people they were enrolling. >> is there reason to be concerned? >> well, we don't believe there is any heightened reason for consumer to be alarmed. >> reporter: dana howard says all approved applicants go through thorough scrutiny to make sure the counselor has changed their ways. >> why take the risk? why allow these people any access at all? >> well, it is just part of the civil rights act. we cannot just wantonly say we are not going to hire or certify an individual just because

a firmness, the chance used to be [indiscernible] which means con be gone, excon since he served prison as a young man. the new chance is death to the prisoner. so there is a call for a capital penalty, even though ukraine no longer has the death penalty. but there's rage out there in the public. and i think he is aware of that. it's been said that some of his valuable are being removed from his lavish residence north of kiev which has over 10,000 square, 100,000 square feet and these lavish ponds and lakes in which over $100 million has sunk. valueables have been removed from his offices in the presidential administration. i don't even know if he's coming back. >> reporter: all right, adrian karatnycky of the council. thank you once again. >> thank you. >> woodruff: the nation's governors have gathered in washington this week for their winter meeting. and with action in the nation's capital stymied by partisan gridlock, many are looking to the states for solutions to the country's challenges. for a sample of what's happening we are joined by two governors, tennessee republican bill has

obama administration may have an unlikely partner in the push to restore voting rights to millions of exconsutspoken critics, rand paul. let's bring in joe johns. he's got the details. joe? >> reporter: well, senator rand paul disagrees with the obama administration on just about everything, just sued the president over nsa phone data collection. he even delivered his own personal rebuttal to mr. obama's state of the union address. but on this voting rights for felons, they're on the same side. when it comes to giving convicted felons the right to vote, rand paul is right in line with the obama administration and attorney general eric holder. >> i don't think it's intentional, but it has become a racial outcome on who's incarcerated in our country. and i think that's something that has to be addressed here. because not only is the incarceration i think unfair, then they get out and the voting rights are impaired. >> reporter: today paul went so far as to appear at a hearing in his home state legislature pushing the idea of changing the kentucky constitution to give the vote to convicted felo

holder points to a study that says excons are less likely to break the law again. >>> "the times of london" says toyota announced a recall of the prius hybrids. nearly 2 million cars are involved. a software glitch might cause them to stall. the recall involves cars manufactured between march 2009 and this month. no accidents or injuries are reported. >>> and u.t. san diego says a republican is the city's new mayor. councilman kevin faulconner won a special election to replace bob filner. the democratic running -- the democrat running to replace filner was endorsed by president obama. >>> suffering the worst winner rain in 250 years, causing severe flooding. even when th >>> starting out with some thick fog around the bay area some of the visibility down to a quarter mile even less in spots. ocean beach this morning, plenty of fog moving in along the coastline there. got a cold front that's headed into far northern california going to bring some rain in that direction. still a slight chance of some light sprinkles mainly north of the golden gate bridge for today. temperatures staying rathe