even having said that, though, exelon is big joiner of coalitions. eei is a coalition, trade association. u.s. cap is a coalition, clean energy group is a coalition. exelon was a part of the u.s. chamber. we got so angry at the u.s. chamber hitting us like that with their, with their opposition to cap and trade that we quit. the chamber mostly decided we'd save the money, that the chairmanship members the bill came -- honest to goodness, it's a good story. the bill came, and the ceo cose chief of staff said, hey, boss, do you really want to continue to pay these guys who are beating up on us? he said, no. and so we quit. and it became a big story. it was very fun. but they use outside lobbyists, they use, there's a, they have a person under contract that is a contract lobbyist who used to be the regional administrator for the epa. her name's mary, she's great. she knows what she's doing. they have a firm under contract that was -- and these are all public filings anyway because, you know, if you do this, you have to be, file lobby being reports. they

even having said that, though, exelon is big joiner of coalitions. eei is a coalition, trade association. u.s. cap is a coalition, clean energy group is a coalition. exelon was a part of the u.s. chamber. we got so angry at the u.s. chamber hitting us like that with their, with their opposition to cap and trade that we quit. the chamber mostly decided we'd save the money, that the chairmanship members the bill came -- honest to goodness, it's a good story. the bill came, and the ceo cose chief of staff said, hey, boss, do you really want to continue to pay these guys who are beating up on us? he said, no. and so we quit. and it became a big story. it was very fun. but they use outside lobbyists, they use, there's a, they have a person under contract that is a contract lobbyist who used to be the regional administrator for the epa. her name's mary, she's great. she knows what she's doing. they have a firm under contract that was -- and these are all public filings anyway because, you know, if you do this, you have to be, file lobby being reports. they