and now some say pope francis has inspired a recent rise in exorcism interest. of his followers say his frequent use of rhetoric has fueled a resurgence of belief in demonic intervention. in the catholic church, only an elite few are trusted to perform the ritual. but recent reports suggest more and more priests are receiving specialized training. according to an interview, the diocese of milan doubled their number of exorcism priests. and just last week, an annual conference in rome being attended by 160 catholic priests from around the world. >> we can't underestimate the prevalence of possessions. frankly, it's not accurate. >> father james martin an influential catholic publication has a different interpretation of the pope's fiery sermons. >> he's using traditional christian language. it's really just speaking about the different forces in our life that move us away or towards god. >> he says pop culture is what's really responsible for a fascination with exorcism. this thriller grossing nearly $100 million. it was loosely based on the real life education o

the times of london reported the number of exorcisms in the uk is going up.uspect porn and drugs are to blame and obama. said one priest they are addictions that can allow an evil spirit to enter, but there is a growth in awareness within the church of the devil. yeah, the devil is everywhere. my grandma ma taught me that. it includes obsessive behaviors, speaking in tongues, supernatural strength and levitation. here is a porn addict who was possessed. >> that's evil. andy, doesn't the possession sound awesome? >> super strength sounds cool, levitation. what it sounds like is the number of excuses being made for watching porn and doing drugs is on the rise. the devil made me do it. it is like fake claims of racism and sexism that excuses -- >> the devil. >> well that it diminishes the real cases. this does a disservice to the people who really are possessed by the demon and need the church sanctioned ep h of a priest who needs an exorcism that is prescribed in the ritual. now you have all of these other people and they are taking the priests away from the ca

through that talk therapy and other types of therapy whether it's sub version or exorcisms. >> exorcisms? >> yes religious exorcisms can be done. aversion therapy inflicts physical pain. however, i had to do certain things but it was mostly talk therapy. i had to spend as much time with boys growing up in that period and i had to stay away from women: and i was separated from my mother and sisters for three years. >> three whole years? >> there was contact but no communication, but that in itself is a challenge. >> did you think you were born this way? >> i was scared and young, i trusted my father. when there was a professional in my life with an university background ph.d and whatever their licensed credentials were, i trusted that. i thought i was in the best hands and i was doing something that would save me. >> in high school did you have other gay friends? did you ever act on your own desires. >> so, i did act. i did act on my desires. there was no one to look up to. there was no one openly gay. >> you didn't have a mentor? >> there was no mentors. yeah there are other closeted boy

there's all forms for exorcism to talk therapy. mine was talk therapy 101, group and a conversion camp in virginia. yes, my therapy was in four states and five years from ages 16 to 21. >> wow. >> and even though it was talk. i had to do certain things. so the belief is that the first steps in curing homosexuality is spend as much time as possible with men, spending at least time away from women. this is to make sure you don't pick up any feminine behaviors, keep women as the mysterious opposite sex while having healthy male bonding. so you can fix or heal your masculinity, that there was a trauma that happened as a chide. one, i never had a trauma. i came from a loving very close knit family. i had a beautiful upbringing. i had to look for something that didn't exist. and then i went through the therapy, avoiding women. this including my mother and my sister. so i was not in communication or almost very limited communication with my mother for three years. >> wow. >> ages 16 to 19. >> why did you stay with it? >> i was scared. i r

shall we: exorcism? i don't know. -- shall we call it exorcism? i don't know. anyone who made you feel the same way. reach this wholeness. gore: no. i come alike so many people, i was always a youth. i was into lust. really entangle men. charlie: you say that was the best part of it. gore: that is what i like, tennessee williams, jack kennedy, marlon brando. we are both promiscuous to a degree that is not possible in the age of aids. but we certainly were. it may have been the tension of the war. neither one of us were looking for completeness. we were looking for the excitement and adventure. charlie: there is the thing about running for congress. if michael: he not only ran for congress he also ran for the senate in the 1980's. against jerry brown. he did a credible job in both cases. in his 60's, i can remember, a notable night. he said, he wished he was dead. i said, why? because he said he has never realized the dream of his life which was to become president. i said, would you really want to be president? living in washington in the kind of goldfish bowl

eating you from the inside out the way i read about your paid it almost seemed like you needed and exorcisms felt like that. something needs to come out of me. reading these old journals 150 of them under my bed for of love little girl i thought i wasn't covering a mystery but who was that a girl now? and questions about the labels i gave myself and partnership age and family. kennedy: what was that a common thread? what we surprised to see? >> i am a speaker and my connection to god is the number one priority. the thing that i was not surprised to see was my cinderella syndrome but that made me laugh to. kennedy: that is one of the chapters in the book. clerc had the glass slipper saudia go from friends? >> you just have a connection that is just that then things change and grow. it is really excepting with life and relationships are fluid they are not static they never will be you can sate to someone this is have it will be but it doesn't work out that way. kennedy: human beings don't work that way. our thoughts to all were kinase flat pattern. what you tell people? go hookup with your bes

that has brought awareness about exorcisms to the mainstream.ople in the or the of how to perform exorcism. >> hmm. >>> in billboard, spotify says that british singer ed sheeran dominates the playlist at bedtime. ♪ will your eyes still smile from the cheek baby i will be 70 ♪ >> go ahead, norah. >> i love it. it's a great song. >> i know the words too. >> "thinking out loud" that's the name of the song. ranks agency the most ranked song for sleepers streamed. it's on more than 3 million playlists. >> i don't know if they're sleeping to that song or not. >> what are they doing? >> listening to it and feeling the words in all of the way. >> it's good to sing to somebody who loves that song. it's true. i haven't sang it to anybody. but it is a good song. >>> in 2008 the nation was teetering on the brink of disaster before the financial meltdown. treasury secretary henry paulson. he's still headed a massive rescue aboard a second great depresion. $7 billion bailout seen as a landmark movement for the economy. jan crawford recently talked to paulson,

what's with all the interest in exorcism and could pope francis have something to do with it?

abortion exorcism. and i get into a little bit of an orthodox jewish ritual of circumcision. it is when does the circumcision when cleaning off the one with sterile gauze it is up with the water does the ritual circumcision and i circumcision and that can lead to simplex virus infection than it cost about or two children to die or have permanent brain damage. let me read one faction that relates to another philadelphia story to give you a sense of this. in 1997 commits-year-old michael holman was played in the backyard when his mother heard him scream. she ran out to find he stepped on a piece of glass. michael's father immediately brought to sunset in the towel but it didn't stop. they were wrapped surmounted by a disposable diaper. the bandage quickly soaked with blood. the next morning the bandage was rewrapped using a heavier fabric at the bleeding continues. instead of calling the doctor. susan said when you are sick you pray and ask the lord to heal you. and he became more ... crying out in pain. michael died in his mother's science. and not taxi showed you last night a

do we call it exorcism, i don't know. it was unexpected.anyone who made you feel the same way that madeys you reach this whole thinks. >> no. because i don't think i like so many people was always a youth the i was into lust i was not into real entanglement. >> rose: you say that's the best part. >> less than the idle encounter what i like jack kennedy marlon brando. i say that because we were promiss cuss to a degree that was not possible in the age of aids. we certainly were. maybe the tension of the war, i don't know what. so neither one of us was looking for completeness, we were looking for the excitement and the adventure. >> rose: then there was the whole thing about running for congress. he wanted to be a politician. >> he not only ran for congress in the early 60's when kennedy was running for president but he in the 80's ran for the senate in california. >> rose: against jerry brown. >> yes, against jerry brown and he did a credible job in both cases. when he was in his 60's, i can remember it was very notable night because again