amazon is expandsing. they don't pay a dividend. google, same thing. from that standpoint ibm has to let people in the finance side go to the back and basically bring the technology forward. main problem ibm has is buying companies, obviously, it's more expensive. granted, they are not buying uber. that's a $40 billion valuation. look at the other companies out there in the technology space, whether it's dropbox, fox, prices of the companies are up because the stock market is stronger. >> how many times can you bring something back from the dead? had to do it once, and paul did it. is it possible? how many times can you do it? three strikes you're out? >> at ibm, it's possible. they have the largest patent portfolio in technology. >> don't you hate, andrew, when people talk about patents worth a lot? >> they had to stay with blackberry. they had patents. david, we appreciate it. happy new year. >> happy new year thanks. >> what about you? buy ibm? >> not individual stocks. >> who says you can't? qma? who is that? >> financial, financial, yeah. >> anywa