zpl among the loser, adults who gained coverage under medicaid expansi expansion. se plan would maintain funding through 2020, but make states pick up more of the tab before ending it. middle income earners making above 350% of federal poverty. about 41,000 for an individual this year. for older adult, that could mean a triple whammy. the senate plan would allow insurers to charge them five times more than younger people. right now, rates are capped at three times more. the bill also increases how much older people have to chip in for preem ups. from 9.5% of their income to as much as 16%. while tax credits would be lower. to the lowest plan rother than more generous plans now. people with preexisting conditions would not face a premium surcharge under the senate plan and some shut out would get a new benefit. among the winners, the worki would be eligible for tax credit, filling the gap for 2.6 f million people who weren't kored whens chose not to expand medicaid. insurers would be able to offer young adults lower plans and opt out of a central health benefit and

the changes have turned out to be lest costly than the medicaid expansi expansion.dicaid and covering them and providing generous assistance, the bill will do a lot to make sure that they can use the same plan, doctors, hospitals. that will help with the continuity of care, access to care, and make sure that people get the best possible delivery they are not getting today. >> i imagine you don't necessarily agree with all of that? >> no, i don't. the exchanges have worked for a lot of people and not for ores. it is important because it is where people go if their employer doesn't off coverage. he did not get his insurance from an employer. maybe we'll go back to those days, but they're talking about having maybe one insurer on that. but keep this in mind, too. i would rather have one that selling quality coverage than five insurers, four of which sell practical insurance. people will be signing up for coverage they think has value, and when they find out too late it's not what they need. >> premiums have doubled, doubled -- >> to be fair, premiums were increasing su