so i would say you had a bhod rat moderately experienced crew but not terribly experienceded. the a-320, if you take the family of aircraft, that goes from 320, to 18, 19, 20 and 21. there's about 6,000 of them that have been delivered. it has an exceptionally good record it is the workhorse of the low cost carrier fleet across the world. and i think in terms of the 320 itself just a couple of dozen fatal accidents. also brian, note all the major u.s. carriers, united delta and american they also have 320s, 321s, 319s in their fleet. it has an excellent safety record. >> this plane and this airline, airasia, isn't it part of a story of modernization and globalization in this part of the world. >> southwest of the united states tony fernandez and airasia, did in southeast asia and he did it starting in kuala lumpur and in asia to get over protection and national laws he has expanded that and he has had to do it through -- for example, there's a tie of -- he's looking at one in india, one in japan, and of course there is indonesia airasia. so this airline, yes, it is indonesian