. >> book expo ameritech 2009 yale university press we're with the director of feel university press. what you have coming out this fall? >> we have a number of good books call the making of americans and hersh wrote a best-selling book called cultural literacy and he cares very much about what role education has been defining what it is to be american and this book is a capstone of his career which includes many best sellers and to talk about the centrality of information and knowledge of what it means to have a shared corpus of knowledge and how important that is too our national identity and how that is threatened by the way education is split across the country so it has a lot of argument and advocacy when ways to look forward two what a new administration can do about education. >> host: you have another book. >> guest: this is a marvelous book. it is very moving and touching. what she does, it is quite a platform, she has spent on 2020 and "60 minutes". she tries to understand how human behavior affects global population of animals and captivity and it is a touching subject peop