for the the last three years, relentlessly fired purging and imprisoned all the expolice chief of counterrrorism and all offers who used to work for the department. right flou we have in those departments unexperienced, untrined officers. this experience and understanding of terrorism activities. >> let me ask you about the politics about where turkey has been over the past year. some people are scratching their head, 30 attacks almost one every two weeks, significant attacks. you said turkey is playing footcy with extremism particularly in syria. what do do you mean buy that in. >> the turkish government turned blind eye to extremist using turkey to wage war. they seem to be paying a price for this policy. they are paying a price they have invade syria and roll up islamic state in northern syria as a result the islamic state is responding to that invasion. it is this policy about extremism during the early part of the conflict in syria, the turkish presence, and it is the proximity and undertake this types of terrorism operations. >> i know you spend years tracking this kind of terrorism

which is why we have been as expolicive as we have been with its neighbor, china, about what we expect not to happen here. >> rose: it has moved to the top rank of american. >> no question. it has been throughout, throughout this at mrgsment and we've encouraged the next team to take that view as well. >> rose: two questions, two final questions. one, president obama, knowing so well help us understand who this man who has been leading us that we might not know, because were you there, you have seen everyr3 move, you've seen every question, you have seen his serntd, you have seen his doubts, you have seen his successes, you have seen his failures. what do you want the country to know about barack obama? >> i am routinely amazed at how hard this guy works, this president works while making it look effortless. i just told you-- . >> rose: grace under pressure or something? >> i think so, or recognition that there is a right answer out there and he is bound to get it. and he bound so press his team and work with anybody to get the right answer. he goes, he goes up to the residence every n