. >> i think probably when he had the idea, he was, like, i'm going to do this, write this exposeÉ and el chapo. and it took him so long to get there, he had a lot of time to think of himself. >> too much time in the jungle! he's, like, i'm way more dooring than el chapo! (laughter) >> it felt like it was written by somebody who reads a lot of bad screenplays. >> yes! that'sgenius. there is a part where he quotes himself and it's a paragraph of he picks up a phone going, are you kidding me? no one down there speaks friggin' english? i feel like it's totally okay to go through that artistically and have your moment and not share it with the world. >> larry: yeah. it was very bizarre. to me, how do i feel about interviewing these types of horrible people just in general? i kind of have a problem with that, when you act like nothing's going on, it's, like, okay, hitler, i just want to talk to you. i know that whole other thing's going on -- and put the holocaust in quotes. can't do that. >> the thing is people interview trump every day. he's a horrible person! >> larry: he's not killing p