>> hinojosa: well, there might be a lot of people who say, look, they were very upset when the exxon valdez oil spill happened, they've seen other oil spills, they may even remember this 1971 oil spill. but there might be a lot of people who say, "okay, but i don't know about how you see an oil spill and you make the connection to then stop using all motorized transport. it was a process, but what was the moment when you just said, "that's it, i'm really not going to get into a car," et cetera? >> well, you know, we returned to our home after we saw the spill, you know, wanted to do something. i said to my girlfriend, "we should not ride in cars." but she kind of looked at me and said, "we need lots of money to do something like that." and i kind of bought into that, you know, that you probably would need money to get the time. it was not until someone in our community died having an accident that was about my age that i realized that to wait for the money to show up, or to wait for things to get better or whatever or change, was really unrealistic, because at the time that person died, i r

the deep water horizon and exxon valdez would be bigger in later years, but at the time, we had neveranything like this as a country. certainly not in that pristine sensitive beach front in santa barbara, california. this oil spill, 1969, a true national disaster, blown out well they couldn't shut down for ten days. huge spill, national attention, a huge reaction particularly in california. and that santa barbara disaster helped give rise to the environmental movement in this country. in the short term it led the following year to something they called earth day in 1970. i've always thought that was a funny name. all of our days are earth days a jupiter day last ten hours a venus day last 116 earth days. but all of our days are earth days, and earth day has happened every year since 1970 after the santa barbara oil spill. this year the weekend roughly of earth day was the science march. fitting. who's a good dog? the trump administration decided to celebrate earth day and the science march this year by firing one of the most visible faces of science in our government by firing the nat