a day as opposed to 5000, and it is nearly seven times as that which was killed during the exxon valdez acrisis. the ambiguities and wide discrepancy is a serious issue, and how to grapple with a question we believe it is important to get a good estimate of what the rate is and what the total amount of oil is and what the rate is. that is not an easy thing to do, which is why he has set up a new team to bring the best possible minds together to try to nail this down. it is important. it is just difficult to do. >> what i find confounding about this crisis is the fact that these are fundamentals that should have been established -- having a response plan for the worst-case scenario, but the worst-case scenario was not established in the exploration can land. it was sidestepped, understanding to the high estimates we have potentially have today. in the response plan, you require a vessel. can you give us some idea as to what you would have been done differently? would you consider this adequate in a worst-case scenario? >> for a vessel response plan, we have several solutions. if we will be able