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avik roy and ezra klein, thank you gentlemen both. that is "all in" for this evening. maddow show" starts right now right on time. nailed it. >> am i right thinking that "twilight of the elites" comes out on paperback today? >> it'll come out in about a week. >> very good. it has an excellent blurb on the back. >> on the front, actually. we wanted to title it rachel's blurb. >> thanks for staying with us this hour. >>> this was the headline on the drudge report website. last october, just a couple of weeks ahead of the presidential election. fox news tonight, tune in exclusive. we have found something that's going to blow your mind about this president who you thought you knew. yeah. sure you think you know what president obama sounds like when

. >> joining me now, "the washington post," ezra klein, and jonathan capehart.seem that the irs is not at the head of this controversy, and yet, the republicans seem to be incapable of admitting that. let's hear what rush limbaugh had to say. >> on this business of obama, well, he didn't tell people at the irs to do it. the manager does not tell the pitcher to throw a brushback pitch after one of his gets beamed. the pitcher just knows to do it. >> he just knows to do it, jonathan, because president obama is sending brain waves out to liberals everywhere. >> to liberals everywhere maybe -- but aren't we talking about a division that was run by a conservative republican? >> indeed we are, my friend. >> so what rush limbaugh is saying that the president is so overwhelmingly powerful that he could get a conservative republican to go against his own deep philosophy to do the president's spin. it is ridiculous, this whole thing has been ridiculous from the very beginning. and if there was a there, there, you better believe that chairman issa would have had it out the

joining me is ezra klein. we have had this discussion about how everything about the immigration debate isn't about what people say it is. i want to start on the border fence and talk about poverty. i want to play this bit of senator corker admitting that the bill he proposed is overkill. take a listen. >> for people who are concerned about border security, once they see what is in this bill, it's almost overkill. >> who advertises the policy in washington that they are supporting as overkill, as doing more as spending too much money? that's the opposite of what we're supposed to get out of the cash-strapped sequester-ridden government at the moment. >> this is exactly the key. so many of the republican party establishment in washington are looking at their base and this is one of those issues where they turn and say, oh my god, i can't believe we're connected to these people. folks like corker and a lot of these other things are trying to figure out how to not kill them. so an amendment like this one, it's no

rhetoric coming out of d.c., dheez exchanges on the subsidies we can't afford. >> i'm joined by ezra kleing about obama care gone right. and unlike south carolina in the state of california, they are building the exchanges. the core part of this bill. the part that's going to be the trickiest and also the part that was kind of the heart of the bill when it was explained to people. it's getting these exchanges, regulated marketplace for folks to buy insurance. and there was announcements about what the price tag of those insurance packages would be. and avik, you wrote a piece that got every, went viral. and conservative media saying oh, it's a ripoff, you're going to be paying for more insurance if you are entering into this individual marketplace. >> yeah. so what happened was that california, the california exchange issued its presentation of what the rates, the insurers said they were going to charge in different rating regions. basically collections of counties across the state. and what i found when i looked at those numbers and compared them to individual market plans is that it's ab

is "the washington post's" ezra klein. always great to see you. i would like to go to you first on the food stamp farm bill back and forth. you had a really interesting piece today, and you made the point that this is really a change, sea change as it were, in terms of programs that help the neediest and using them as bait to get democrats to the table. this isn't just a bit cruel, it is also really unusual. for decades these ideas have excluded programs that serve the poorest americans. that's why sequestration excludes food stamps, medicaid and the earned income tax credit. conoway's amendment exclusively targets a program that serves the poorest americans. how do you read that, ezra? why is he doing that? >> we need to back that up for a second. representative mike conaway, one of the guys behind this farm bill, he feels the democrats are not moving quickly enough to help pass it. they disagree with it in different ways and there's chance that come september 30th it will expire. this happens all the time. congress never gets anything done on ti

our good friend ezra klein shall we say ezra pounded this particular party by in his column today byaying as you've said earlier instead of revolting against the very stupidity and crassness that he lamented, mr. jindal governor jindal has now joined that very wing to cut people off of food stamps when they're vulnerable, to take their resources 8 of out of their mouths to tie as a rider to a bill that is meant more broadly for the farming community and then to give with one hand and take back with another is not only a kind of rhetorical and ideological leisure doe pain and sleight of hand but playing to the worst elements of our communities. either we're going to be concerned about enabling those the most vulnerable to be helped or give up our democracy with a heart. these conservatives need to take a look in the mirror because one day soon it may be their families and communities standing in line. guess what, you vote against what happens in new york when natural disaster occurs but in your backyard in oklahoma, all of a sudden you have a change of vote. this kind of crass manipul

washington press corp could ask issa about that, but they would have to read the law, except for ezra klein and others that have been on the program with me. for weeks, the washington political media have been writing about and talking on tv about 501(c)4s and every one of them who has not quoted the very simple law on 501(c)4s, literally does not have the vaguest idea what he or she is actually talking about. you should mark this moment in political pundits. the press corp was given an intelligence test and it is failing it miserably because the press corp cares about, what does your gut tell you? that is the way they talk to each other privately. they read campaign polls and then say to each other over drinks and dinner hey, what does your gut tell you? nate silver doesn't check his gut, he checks the facts he can collect. that's what made him the most accurate predictor of the last election. today, members of the washington press corp are asking each other privately at lunch, at dinner, what does your gut tell you about the so-called irs scandal? they pride themselves on their guts. they

there was a piece that ezra klein wrote. he wrote that the cbo report, now saying that the numbers for immigration reform is good for the economy, it forces upon us a bill that they're least comfortable occupying. they have to say it's for cultural or ethical reasons not economic. >> i think there is an economic aspect, too. the economic recovery such as it is is not broadly felt in the country. there's a sense out there in republican districts and democratic districts that the pie is not expandsing, that it's shrinking. if you're in a place feeling anxious, the idea that we're going to extend citizenship and benefits to a lot of people, that is an anxiety provoking idea. that's the environment we're in. we're in an environment of economic anxiety and therefore difficult issues like this are particularly hard to sort out. i think that the -- you know, i think there's also a sort of credible republican leadership on this too. who can make the argument of the national political argument that actually filters down into the rank

avik roy and ezra klein, thank you gentlemen both. that is "all in" for this evening. >> thanks for staying with us this hour. >>> this was the headline on the drudge report website. last october, just a couple of weeks ahead of the presidential election. fox news tonight, tune in exclusive. we have found something that's going to blow your mind about this president who you thought you knew. yeah. sure you think you know what president obama sounds like when he talks about race. but on fox news tonight, we have got barack obama's other race speech. tune in, tune in the smoking gun. that was the headline on the conservative website. the drudge report just a couple of weeks before the presidential election. and so, everybody tuned in to see what the big secret was. the big reveal and fox news played president obama's secret bombshell other devastating race speech. and it turned out to be just a speech that the president gave in 2007 at a major university which everybody covered at the time and which made no ripple in the news at the tim

avik roy and ezra klein, thank you gentlemen both. that is "all in" for this evening. the "rachel maddow show" starts right now right on time. nailed it. >> am i right thinking that "twilight of the elites" comes out on paperback today? >> it'll come out in about a week. >> very good. it has an excellent blurb on the back. >> on the front, actually. for the paper back we wanted to title the book rachel maddow's blush. >> thanks for staying with us this hour. >>> this was the headline on the drudge report website. last october, just a couple of weeks ahead of the presidential election. fox news tonight, tune in exclusive. we have found something that's going to blow your mind about this president who you thought you knew. yeah. sure you think you know what president obama sounds like when he talks about race. but on fox news tonight, we have got barack obama's other race speech. tune in, tune in the smoking gun. that was the headline on the conservative website. the drudge report just a couple of weeks before the presidential election. and so, everybody tuned in to see

. >> howard, ezra klein actually argues the counter in terms of who benefits here. he says democrats have comforted himself with the believe that immigration reform is a political necessity for the republican party. but the republicans who will lose if immigration reform fails are future republicans. the ones who will lose in primaries if a moderate immigration bill passes are current republicans. >> i think that's right. john laid out the optimistic case for getting the bill through. >> this is the optimistic wing of the show. and my boss, mayor bloomberg is working hard on this issue along with other business leaders to get this done. we're in the business of being optimi optimistic. if you were to give the pessimistic view, a lot of it has to do with the president's standing. six months ago, we were not in the midst of scandal fever in washington. you are seeing republicans who might have been willing to work with the president on this issue a month ago, two months ago, now being tugged even more as karen points out to the right in their own possible primary situ

in fact, ezra klein wrote yesterday in the "washington post" that the idea that it would lower wages of working americans is actually a bit misleading. as for folks already here, the c.b.o., the congressional budget office, is careful to note that their estimates do not necessarily imply that current u.s. residents would be worse off in the first ten years and in the second ten years they estimate the average americans' wages will actually rise. in addition, in case my friend from alabama missed it, the report also says although immigrants constituted 12% of the population in the year 2000, they accounted for 26% of u.s.-based nobel prize winners. and they made up 25% of public venture companies started between 1990 and 2005. the fact is immigrants receive patents at twice the rate of native-born u.s. population. the bottom line, as ezra klein puts it -- quote -- "the bill's overall effect on the overall economy is unambiguously positive. this is encouraging news for the american economy and validates what many of us have known all along. i would only say let's not take a report from

joining me this morning, editor of the "washington post" want blog ezra klein. professor of religious studies and graduate chair of religion at the university of pennsylvania. maria theresa kumar, the ceo of voter latina and the director of the secular coalition for america. thank you all for being here this morning. >> thank you. >> what do you make of this? is this a policy move? the only way it is going to work is to get them signed up? >> here's what i make of it. i'm ecstatic we get to argue about the affordable care act. i've been waiting for years to get back to this point. i thought something the president said in those remarks is really the thing to focus on. in the states trying to implement this correctly we're seeing it work. that's true. oregon, washington, california, maryland, we're seeing really great things there. we tend to think of policies either working or not working. either we do it and it's good or we do it and it's bad. every state sets up its own exchange. either they do it or the feds do it. and you can have a state like california --

very simple proposition, there was a great article today, i think it was today or yesterday, by ezra klein taking about, we have to get away from the deficit hawk issue into the infrastructure hawk issue. i want to join me infrastructure hawk caucus if there is one here, but this simply articulates a position that i've held from before the american recovery act and still hold here today that we have projects in the united states that need to get done, that need to get built, bridges, roads, airports, ports, all across the country, rail, all across the country, investments that need to be made. combined sewer systems. all over the united states of america. that need to get done at some point. and what i like about what mr. klein said is that we're talking about what we're leaving to the next generation. now, at some point they're going to be left some deficit. and we have an only fwation here in congress to make policies that are going to make investments to reduce that deficit. in some instances that means balancing the budget over the long-term -- balancing the budget. over the long-term

still ahead, the new jobs report due out in just a few minutes and up next, chuck todd and ezra kleinday, the storm made landfall in florida. didn't do a lot of damage, but we had about six tornados reported with the storm. did do a little damage. usually with these storms when they make landfall, it's more of like a weak tornado. that's what we saw yesterday in the sunshine state. florida is looking much better today than yesterday. you can see the high water we did have and now that things have improved, we should see things returning to normal in the southeast, but not for the mid-atlantic. eastern north carolina, we have one tornado warning. anywhere from east of raleigh towards the virginia beach y'all through the outer banks. the storm will be moving quickly. drenching the mid-atlantic today. tonight, it will be drenching the northeast and we're talking as much as 2 to 4 inches of rain from boston to providence to new york city. over the weekend, andrea's gone. more of a typical weather pattern, but scattered storms in the northwest. i know this morning the travel's difficult ar

i don't know if you saw the es ra klein -- the ezra klein post.in the new state exchanges. proposed rates will be lower than people expected. ezra does a great piece. i'll cc you and chris on it so we can help pass it around but it explains why if you try to navigate the private health insurance system why it is so treacherous. why they're not serving more than 10% of the population. they'll be so essential to help people who don't otherwise have access to health insurance. it breaks it down in an easy way to understand and it is something that we need to pass around, i think to help combat some of the misinformation on the right. because they're very, very good at the viral e-mail misinformation. and so, ezra's piece is a good way for us to help other people understand how these exchanges are helpful especially for people trying to navigate their system on their own oz opposed -- as opposed to getting health insurance through work. >> stephanie: more fun facts for the [ bleep ] crowd. u.s. came out with the most costly in all 21 categories in hea

in fact, ezra klein wrote in "the washington post" that the idea immigration would lower wages of already working americans is -- quote -- "actually a bit misleading. as for folks already here, the congressional budget office is careful to note that their estimates do not necessarily imply current residence will be worse off in the first ten years. in the second ten years they estimate the average american wages will taouly rise -- will actually rise as a result of immigration reform to the tune of about $470 billion. an average actual increase in jobs of 121,000 per year for ten years. that's 1.2 million additional jobs to the united states. it's $470 billion in increased wages of all americans. the truth is a stubborn thing. crush it to the ground, it springs back up. now, in addition to that, i have to remind my colleagues as they come closer to having to cast a vote, and i hear, you know, some voices say i would be open to vote for the bill if this or that. well, look, immigrants constituted 12% of the population in the year 2000, but they accounted for 26% of the nobel prize winners