>> president f. fung: gentlemen, ladies? >> are we reaffirming our position, we're not from the last hearing and have to support -- i'm looking at our city attorney. >> commissioners -- >> i want some instruction, please, sir. >> sure. my advice would be, if you want to have a discussion whether there could possibly be the votes to grant the rehearing now -- what i don't want to have happen is for you to deny the rehearing because you would lose jurisdiction over this matter. >> can you please -- i can't hear you. >> sure. what i would want to avoid happening tonight is for you to deny the rehearing because then you would lose jurisdiction over the matter in order to enter findings. but if you wanted to have a discussion now to gauge support for possible regranting of the rehearing, then the findings wouldn't be necessary until the rehearing actually happens. if you want to determine whether there are four votes for granting the rehearing, that would reduce any risk associated with the prior decision not