the f.b.i., we know now that the f.b.i. will not agree to amend the m.o.u. which is why the chief issued the bureau order. however, a significant problem is that the f.b.i. special agent in charge has told us all in separate meetings that the f.b.i. will continue to block key parts of local policy central to accountability and oversight. this is what this is about. but more than that there's a solution and it doesn't necessitate a divorce from the joint terrorism task force. there are now two ways for local law phone ersment to participate in the jttf. this is -- this has been a chance even since the last time we spoke before the commission. one of the ways is the ways we're currently engaged. an m.o.u. in which sfpd resources are put into the hands of f.b.i. with relatively no local control. the other way is via a resolution which was just approved by federal government in portland. which allows participation in the joint terrorism task force but provides much better protection for civil rights

what is unique about the f.b.i.? >> uniquely the f.b.i. has domestic responsibility, acting under the constitution, the applicable statutes, and the attorney general guidelines to first of all identify those individuals who might be undertaking terrorist threats within the united states along with our state and local law enforcement. the other federal agencies. we also have the responsibility for working with the intelligence agencies to identify threats from overseas that may impact the domestic united states. and to assure that we gather and analyze and disseminate that intelligence and efforts to thwart those attacks. if indeed an attack takes place, quite obviously our responsibility then is to identify those persons responsible for the attack. gather the evidence against them, and pursue the case through indictment, conviction, and incarceration. uniquely we have the responsibility -- broad responsibility domestically fo -- for undertaking this particular aspect of response against international terrorism as well as against domestic t

the f.b.i.'s ten mo-wanted list, the notorious boston criminal james "whitey" bulger. >> this is a guy who murdered people. who murdered real people who ruined real families. and of all the families that i've come in contact with, of the ones that i think of the most at a time like this are the donahues of dorchester who were... pat donahue was left with three little boys to raise and the wheelers of oklahoma. two totally innocent men who came across a guy who was out there and with the assistance of the f.b.i., with the active complicity of the f.b.i. was out there murdering potential witnesses against him. >> rose: we conclude this evening with rick stengel, the editor of "time" magazine who write this is week's cover story on the constitution. >> whether people can carry guns in arizona whether drone warfareiolates t constitution, whether obamacare violates the commerce clause, those are not crises. what the constitution is fors to deal with conflict. there was no greater conflict in some way

leonard peltier so the f.b.i.'s actually organized demonstrations around the country to protest against the possible parole or probation of leonard peltier this is a lobby by the f.b.i. which really is culpable for the murder of many a scores of native american activists and trying to say historically if there was violence it was all because of of the indigenous people not the f.b.i.'s ongoing covert war against the indian people i don't happen thing that that supporters like yourself argue what is the most compelling piece that i have a chance at that well well we know from the from the church hearings in one thousand nine hundred sixty s. or senate hearings that the cointelpro operation by the f.b.i. targeted political activists they targeted them for assassination surveillance they tried to create divisions within groups in the case of the american indian movement that was rampant that's all part of the record and we can see from the evidence from the trials that the the the the prosecution in the f.b.i. asserte

agent came with me the seven other f.b.i. agents and one minneapolis police are there and she said we're looking for evidence material support for terrorism in your house will you help us find it it's my responses you know and then they ransacked my house i did negotiate with the f.b.i. they wouldn't wake up my daughter was still asleep because they wanted to be simply hold me in my own living room and now allow me to leave and i was like well this isn't going to work out very well after i was your wakes up she's not really going to read to the whole being held in one room you know when you're eighteen months he learned how why he did about it and the whole idea of not being able to walk in you know play with his new skate or walking i was there was some but she slept for about another half hour i called my partner left to work and then we were able to get out and our of the f.b.i. coming but i was held in my living room where they searched through my home we were moving in two days so they opened up every box that we had alr

but f.b.i. agent john connolly, assigned to handle bulger, eventually went to work for the mob boss. connolly was convicted for racketeering. in fact, it was connolly's warning to bulger that he was about to be indicted in 1995 that sent the mobster into hiding. now, sources tell us bulger at first was verbally combative when he was arrested, but he didn't resist. now we're told he is talking a bit to federal authorities and, scott, bulger will be returned to boston to face trial. >> pelley: thanks, bob. "60 minutes" has been on the bulger case for years. the late ed bradley interviewed two of bulger's closest mob lieutenants. in 2001, ed spoke with eddie mackenzie, the first member of bulger's gang ever to speak publicly. >> he had such a stare of blankness, no compassion in his eyes, ed, that just would horrify anybody. you could be 6' 6", 360 pounds, the toughest guy... i've seen people almost go to the bathroom in their pants in his presence, he was so scary. >> pelley: then, in 2006, ed spo

what is unique about the f.b.i.? >> uniquely the f.b.i. has domestic responsibility, acting under the constitution, the applicable statutes, and the attorney general guidelines to first of all identify those individuals who might be undertaking terrorist threats within the united states along with our state and local law enforcement. the other federal agencies. we also have the responsibility for working with the intelligence agencies to identify threats from overseas that may impact the domestic united states. and to assure that we gather and analyze and disseminate that intelligence and efforts to thwart those attacks. if indeed an attack takes place, quite obviously our responsibility then is to identify those persons responsible for the attack. gather the evidence against them, and pursue the case through indictment, conviction, and incarceration. uniquely we have the responsibility -- broad responsibility domestically fo -- for undertaking this particular aspect of response against international terrorism as well as against domestic t

the f.b.i. finally got a break in an old case by using a new method. in the end, it only cost the f.b.i. $50,000 and a bit of macho pride to catch whitey bulger. after spending 16 years and a small fortune in time and manpower searching for the elusive mob boss, the boston f.b.i. hit on a new tactic. instead of focusing on bulger, how about targeting his girlfriend? >> have you seen this woman? >> reporter: the boston f.b.i. convinced headquarters to produce this television commercial detailing the habits of bulger's companion, catherine grieg. the idea was to move beyond wanted posters and target female viewers watching afternoon television or surfing the internet. lead boston agent rick deslauriers, who made a career working counterintelligence and chasing spies, had to overcome some skepticism, selling the concept to the top brass. >> we were trying to think outside the box on this one, bob, and really be creative and use the power of the worldwide internet and social media. >> reporter: the

some concern that the f.b.i. here states that whether there's a conflict between standards or requirements of the participating agents in the f.b.i., the standard or requirement that provides the, quote, greatest organizational protection or benefit will apply. unless the organizations jointly resolve the conflict otherwise. is it your intention in the part of the command staff that to the greatest extent possible that where it is appropriate for them absent the factor of the jttf being present that they would have the same access and the ability to investigate whether or not to sustain charges in the event of an allegation of officer misconduct? >> with regard to the san francisco police officers, yes. that's the reason why we asked the officers to identify themselves as sfpd, where then the ordinary complaint process that all officers are subject to would kick in. commissioner chan: that brings me to section 6-a of the m.o.u. wherein it states that jttf members are strictly for biden from disclosing any classif

what is unique about the f.b.i.? >> uniquely the f.b.i. has domestic responsibility, acting under the constitution, the applicable statutes, and the attorney general guidelines to first of all identify those individuals who might be undertaking terrorist threats within the united states along with our state and local law enforcement. the other federal agencies. we also have the responsibility for working with the intelligence agencies to identify threats from overseas that may impact the domestic united states. and to assure that we gather and analyze and disseminate that intelligence and efforts to thwart those attacks. if indeed an attack takes place, quite obviously our responsibility then is to identify those persons responsible for the attack. gather the evidence against them, and pursue the case through indictment, conviction, and incarceration. uniquely we have the responsibility -- broad responsibility domestically fo -- for undertaking this particular aspect of response against international terrorism as well as against domestic t

f.b.i. last year that's fighting back but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media is covering all missing the bigger stories. well it seems like there is no happy ending for wiener gate see this morning all knew it was interrupted on every single channel for a breaking news announcement. if you future as the question of the ocean liner i won't be answering any i have made this statement so i'm going to make my understanding of that later in the day he will be having a press conference and after that i will have a statement available and just tell you that up front are we go back to that what let's just say the breaking news this morning was the fact that congressman anthony weiner was going out to resign and that was the culmination of everything of the media had been hoping for dr incessantly pounding the war drums about a text message of a congressman's underwear after slaving away for weeks to bring the story of amends and moral and ethical. portions to the spotlight they hav

being investigated by the f.b.i. that they are being tailed and are trying to actually do something about it to sue so we have a perfect example of where there can be an abuse of these powers and who they can be going after you know another thing i want to talk about huey is you said maybe this is just a clarification when they talk about the fact that if a journalist or a politician is part of investigation and they were just a witness then parallel you also don't need to really ask your supervisors about that what does that mean for journalists and for their sources for protecting their sources well this is a million it's a little bit different media here is that if you're investigating a journalist you need to you know sort of have a higher level for you to make sure that you're not doing something that runs afoul of the first amendment and that this is not the kind of thing you have to worry about if it is a journalist has been a victim of a crime that you don't need to sign off to talk to the journalist you know

a terrifying plot the f.b.i. claims to have toward the suspects quickly dubbed the new book for our poor illiterate ex conflicts with neither passports nor licenses no direction by a foreign entity or a real terrorist group instead direction came from shahid hussein a pakistani immigrant on the f.b.i. payroll reportedly paid nearly one hundred thousand dollars for his services f.b.i. operatives provided the fake c four and actually showed a fake stinger missile according to court testimony hussein recruited the economically strapped defended spy offering carson cash to carry out the orchestrated operation then the agent provocateur testified as the government's key witness in post nine eleven on there are the f.b.i. has upped its anti against terrorism allegedly boiling hot summers the country question is will there be any lots of oil with our government form in place to help create that despite surprisingly little criticism from amnesty international and human rights watch others have expressed a lord over what

now just the other day we told you that the f.b.i. has new guidelines they'll soon be issuing as reported by the new york times the loosening of the rules of the f.b.i.'s general counsel is described as a fine tuning or rather the major changes but isn't really the changes include allowing agents to search a group or person proactively without having to make any records of it allowing them to tell people more than once during a proactive assessment searching people's trash to find a potential informant and spending up to five meetings with a group undercover eliminating extra supervision of investigations of politicians or journalists if they are witnesses or not suspects and eliminating any protections for low profile blogs so let's get to the bottom of why these changes matter here to discuss this with me is julian sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute thanks so much for being here tonight was a pleasure first starters in the f.b.i. just some of their guidelines about three years ago i mean has there been something drastic

what is unique about the f.b.i.? >> uniquely the f.b.i. has domestic responsibility, acting under the constitution, the applicable statutes, and the attorney general guidelines to first of all identify those individuals who might be undertaking terrorist threats within the united states along with our state and local law enforcement. the other federal agencies. we also have the responsibility for working with the intelligence agencies to identify threats from overseas that may impact the domestic united states. and to assure that we gather and analyze and disseminate that intelligence and efforts to thwart those attacks. if indeed an attack takes place, quite obviously our responsibility then is to identify those persons responsible for the attack. gather the evidence against them, and pursue the case through indictment, conviction, and incarceration. uniquely we have the responsibility -- broad responsibility domestically fo -- for undertaking this particular aspect of response against international terrorism as well as against domestic t

by the f.b.i. in the secret service that it's now riddled with paranoia and mistrust and they estimate that one in four hackers is now working with the f.b.i. and secretly informing on their peers so how much of that is truth and how much of it is just an attempt to save face in a very public hacks keep happening joining me from our studio in new york is john young who runs the document leaking site cryptome dot org john thank you so much for joining us tonight. now johnny you've been in the game for quite a long time and i think that it's easy for anybody to assume that there is a lot of paranoia there's a lot of mistrust that goes along with being somebody who's a hacker who has to hide their identity from the feds often because you think that has gotten worse is there more mistrust more paranoia at least that's popped up in the last couple years now that the feds have i guess more intelligence gathering capabilities. well what is happening is that paranoia and suspicion has actually started to b

battlefield heroes beta f.b.i. being silly and if you'd like to help us with some analysis of that please email me adam adam vs the man dot com we know one way or another will be a lot more to come all right so one of the specific files found in the all six data dump titled change. was a report from the federal bureau of investigations regarding a serious and situational intelligence report about our next guest barry cooper and cutlasses that and never get busted dot com joining me now barry cooper bury me out on how you do outstanding good meet great thanks for coming on tonight and i know you're slow because this is a story that's really getting some problems on the internet a lot of. people want to know your reaction to this and to see what you think of the f.b.i. assessment of you or the fact that the f.b.i. is watching you which obviously should come as no surprise when you know a mutual friend of ours stephen webster with raul story dot com broke the story yesterday and i want to think thank you kiran for rel

that's exactly what took place in reston virginia on tuesday f.b.i. agents raided a data center in the wee hours of the morning confiscating services used by and number of companies taking many sites offline and it's kind of unclear what the federal agents were investigating at the moment but folks say that it's unprecedented move by the agency details of course are still murky but let's see if our next guest can help us make sense of it all now declan mccullagh is a correspondent at scenic news and joins us live now that one now what do we know about this raid so far. there are no unfortunately we know not nearly as much as we would like to know. not just a few computers the entire racks of computers use the service and it's ready to reston virginia and you know so let me get a little overbroad like you didn't quite understand what how the servers are configured to look more than was necessary and so then you have collateral damage on some websites that were entirely innocent of any wrongdoing well we're well off line is this collateral damage so wha

the f.b.i. is bragging about a recent coup mob boss james whitey bulger he was captured after sixteen years on the run near los angeles this case is interesting because it shows what happens when the full light of the federal government's law enforcement effort is focused on a truly dangerous criminal the rest came after a tip from a t.v. broadcast campaign resulting in a viewer recognizing his long time girlfriend catherine gride did it results in a new. no in this case they definitely lured this eighty one year old man out of his apartment and arrested him without incident in addition to the millions of dollars spent on catching him the f.b.i. had a two million dollar reward and until bin laden was killed he was number two on the most wanted list he was wanted for nineteen murders from his operations in the boston area and served as the inspiration for the movie the departed here's the kicker he was actually an f.b.i. informant until one thousand nine hundred five tipping them off on the activ

so why not the f.b.i. . as always the premise for convincing you to give up your rights is fear and the government is hard at work at all levels to make sure that you are afraid of everything they can convince you to need protection from including your neighbors and the band era county sheriff's office down in texas they want to remind you that if you see something say something in fact they want so far less there is a is the issue a warning to citizens to alert them to a growing presence of a sovereign citizens movement you know free people be aware of the free people they will make you want comfortable that you are a wage slave now this is part of a much broader demonization of what they're calling the sovereign citizens movement but really it's part of a more broad attempt to control people anyways according to captain charlie hicks the county has quote domestic terrorism right at their doorstep the sovereign citizens movement is based around the idea of federal invalidity and refutation of the fourteenth

., with the active complicity of the f.b.i. was out there murdering potential witnesses against him. >> rose: we conclude this evening with rick stengel, the editor of "time" magazine who write this is week's cover story on the constitution. >> whether people can carry guns in arizona whether drone warfareiolates t constitution, whether obamacare violates the commerce clause, those are not crises. what the constitution is fors to deal with conflict. there was no greater conflict in some ways in american hiory than the conflict in that room

chief executive of digital one the f.b.i. had been interested in one of the company's clients and despite being provided the necessary information to pinpoint the servers for a specific ip address they took entire server racks so once again it looks like the government is trying to respond to hacktivists but do they have any idea what they're actually doing or discuss this with me is julian sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute julian thanks so much for being here tonight thank you for starters do you any do you have any other details that i may be missing on this story like i said we tried to contact the f.b.i. see if we could find anything out to you know they've been pretty tight lipped about this several news reports have suggested this involves investigation of the hacker group as you mentioned but beyond that we're not sure one of the disturbing things about this though from a first amendment perspective in addition to the concerns that they incidentally ended up taking down a whole bunch of sites including bo

that's exactly what took place in virginia yesterday f.b.i. raided agents raided a data center in a wee hours of the morning confiscating servers used my number of companies some of them quite legitimate what exactly were the investigating where they take c.n.n. news reporter that when the caller has more unfortunately we don't know we're not nearly as much as we would like to know how the f.b.i. is not just a few computers the entire racks of computers use the service and it's very reston virginia and you know so let me get a little overbroad like you have you didn't quite understand. how the servers are configured more than was necessary and so then you had collateral damage on some sites that were entirely innocent of any wrongdoing well we're well off line is this collateral damage and what were they looking for at the f.b.i. so again we don't know yet that isn't exactly what we have a press release here but as far as you can tell that might have been related to us and really a recent laws sarkar hacking intrusion attempts so there have be

. >> f.b.i. investigators are involved in a major police operation in texas after receiving an anonymous tip-off that a site in houston may contain a mass grave. police say they have begun searching the site. the tip-off led to the idea that 40 children could be there. authorities are saying there is no evidence so far that bodies have been found. let's go live to washington and our correspondent. tom, what more can you tell us? >> well, the police are either trying to get a warrant to search this, although the search might have already begun. as you said, it appears that the atip-off the police got came from a psychic, according to reports. the area is a rural area northeast of hive, texas where a house is located. according to the tip-off, bodies are located at that property. there was confusion earlier when reports surfaced after the local media in texas saying actually bodies had already been found, up to 30 bodies. that does not seem to be the case. it seems that the police are now keen to s

what do you say the f.b.i. finally got it right i think at the met i think it's amazing based on by the keeper tonight i had no idea until they go through i think any one of the you know if you're going down that they would but i think it's great i mean they brought them in to teach the f.b.i. how to talk to people that they generally disdain and can handle kind of what they stand for and learn how to deal with that i think that's kind of perfect seriously so crazy almost makes sense i mean the idea is let's bring in absolute nut bags the nuttiest of the but in a way to teach people like there's a difference between someone who is stone crazy and someone who is stone crazy and a threat to someone that actually has a clue violent people and how to use it for for the f.b.i. and all law enforcement out of the kind that they do to them and you know they said they got manipulated but who knows we don't really know ok i don't know if we have time to play this clip let's play it really quick. so you sample the saliva

how the f.b.i. has been in the headlines quite a bit recently reporting that president obama is aiming to send f.b.i. director robert mueller turn for two more years breaking the ten year limitation and possibly setting a very dangerous precedent and here's another game changing story you story for coming from the bureau there is going to be a modified and updated manual for the mystic investigations and operations guy so while there are several changes made we want to point out at least the five areas that have been revised and frankly we quite a bit concerned for starters what f.b.i. agent wants to launch an investigation into a person or an organization they have to create an assessment to follow protocol now once this. low level access is granted to the agent they can gain access to certain pieces of information about them but with the revisions to the manual an agent is now able to search a database for quote pro active presence so that means they can go through a database without having any pr

didn't actually affect any user data on the group says it was just a warm up for their bigger hit f.b.i. affiliated sites the groups in for garden un valence were hit by a law last friday in forgot. unveilings are private firms that concentrate on quote fake hacking government sites to let them know how secure their government information is in the cyber world obviously if these companies can so easily be hacked the fairly say too much for how well they can protect the government's data does it so any information that level security found on these firms databases that have ties to the f.b.i. were then hacked with the following press release from what they did they said it while they're not very many log ins that we'd like to take time to find out that all of them are affiliated with the f.b.i. in some way most of them reuse their passwords in other places which is heavily frowned upon in the f.b.i. in for guard handbook and generally everywhere else too so what we have yet to learn how detrimental this act is let's also point out to you the three classifications for hackers you've got t

. >> the f.b.i. is all over it. the u.s. government's response on g-mail by chinese hackers. >> time to pose your questions. michael finney is checking his facebook to see what you want answers to. go to abc7 news.com. >> and skyway in downtown san francisco. if you are heading to the bay bridge or know somebody who is, it is slow going. it is that way, and heading south little more free flowing. if you are traveling, here is spencer with a national forecast. >> larry, today it looks like a good day for air travel . notice the green lights indicating no major delays in the airport. only place with delayies is newark and northern new jersey . 45 minute delays and longer and because of high winds. everywhere else is smooth sailing or flying rightt now. we'll have the accu-weather forecast cominininininininininin >> second time that sony hacked. and personal data for one million sony customers. it was from sphen million accounts from sony play station in april. >> the f.b.i. will investigate claims that china is hacking in goog

some way most of them reduce their passwords in other places which is heavily frowned upon in the f.b.i. in for guard handbook and generally everywhere else too so what we have got to learn how detrimental this act is let's also point out to you the three classifications for hackers you've got the white house there are groups dedicated to hacking sites to inform the sites about any flaws or loopholes in their systems and there's the black hats those are the malicious hackers and finally they are the gray had sued don't really find the category when it comes to the intent of their hacking capabilities and i think that's where the group will security currently lays oh they're so young they've proven that they can take on the best of the best and they want to make themselves known to everyone including the f.b.i. so i personally like the extended offered i'm very curious about your motives what drives organization so if you'd like to have your voice heard you're welcome to share your message here on the alone or show. now it's a growing trend travelers having their laptops and other electr

he was also an f.b.i. informant. >>> bart riders have mixed feelings about a proposal to change weekend service hours. the bart board is trying to decide whether to have late, late night services but that could come with a human cost the next day. abc7's nick smith joins us from oakland to explain a proposal. this could really hurt low-income people the most. >> reporter: absolutely. the bart board of directors are meeting right now to discuss the results of this survey and how best to address the needs of their passengers. >> the bart board of directors held a meeting to discuss a plan to add late-night service to trains on friday night. >> when the trains turn into a pumpkin, people would rather see trains running. >> not all passengers are crazy about the idea of late-night rail service. >> i don't think it's necessary. it screws up saturdays. people who work on saturdays have to wait another hour. that doesn't work right. >> this is because of a possible six-month pilot project to extend train service

he was also an f.b.i.nformant. >>> bart riders have mixed feelings about a proposal to change weekend service hours. the bart board is trying to decide whether to have late, late night services but that could come with a human cost the next day. abc7's nick smith joins us from oakland to explain a proposal. this could really hurt low-income people the most. >> reporter: absolutely. the bart board of directors are meeting right now to discuss the results of this survey and how best to address the needs of their passengers. >> the bart board of directors held a meeting to discuss a plan to add late-night service to trains on friday night. >> when the trains turn into a pumpkin, people would rather see trains running. >> not all passengers are crazy about the idea of late-night rail service. >> i don't think it's necessary. it screws up saturdays. people who work on saturdays have to wait another hour. that doesn't work right. >> this is because of a possible six-month pilot project to extend train service an

you have any other details that i may be missing on this story like i said we tried to contact the f.b.i. see if we could find anything out you know we've been very tight lipped about this several news reports have suggested those involved investigation of the hacker group as you mentioned but beyond that we're not sure one of the disturbing things about this though from a first amendment perspective in addition to the concerns is that they incidentally ended up taking down a whole bunch of sites including the parking service instapaper and. sites that were run by the. network including food sites like travel sites like green skipper so that's really a problem that they essentially blocked access to a bunch of you know publications in effect so i feel like that's becoming a bit of a recurring trend i know this is a different issue but before we. highlighted the case when you know d.h. as i say has been seizing domain names they did the exact same thing when it came to child pornography i mean there they weren't physically removing any kind of servers but eighty thousand web site that onl

high what do you think we should do passing between them if you recall the recent story about the f.b.i. gaining the ability to search information for people who have no connection this is why they can't fathom the mindset so they want to go on and take random samples until it actually do find some connection between people partaking in these efforts to conclude the feds can't keep their pants up and will blame the persons who proved that here rather than take responsibility for their abject failures to protect their own data let alone our liberty so if you want to participate in this we're still doing some of the number going through some of the data email me adam adam vs the man dot com all right now is that is the timing of the downfall of illinois governor rod blagojevich just a strange coincidence perhaps as of a seventeen guilty verdicts monday blago is off to do some hard time for his political corruption as if it's some isolated incident but here's an interesting fact this is the former illinois governor under summer eighth two thousand the bay before he was arrested in his home

people and how do you who are for the f.b.i. and all law enforcement is that of the kind that they do for them and you know they say they got manipulated but who knows we don't really know ok i don't know if we have time to play this clip let's play it really quick so you sample the saliva in the cheek of the doctor we have to take a sample of the dog you do then the lab matches that up with the d.n.a. ok let me give you some explanation there it's the condominium or apartment complex in florida and they have a problem with dogs you do apparently nobody cleaning it up and claiming it so now they want to mandate d.n.a. testing to match the dog to the do do it comes with a one thousand dollar fine you know what i say go for it come on if this apartment complex or a condominium complex which evidently it smells horrible it's disgusting it's a huge issue i think that people should have the scare tactic of having their dog due to d.n.a. did not come. ok and please please make a reality show out of it but. i want to see the look on th

the f.b.i. is responsible for capturing nineteen year old brian cleary who they say is a member of the hacking group security. his mother has reportedly a dozen police officers raided the family home at ten thirty last night in a joint operation by the f.b.i. and school. however shortly after cleary was detained the hacking community gave a very clear response the big teenager was not have really involved a non-sexually did the good news everybody ryan has little to do with besides running i.r.c. all six members of the sick are find safe before anyone gets confused out there i receive dance for internet relay chat it's one of the original designs for online chat rooms and even though it was created in one nine hundred eighty eight it's still used today over i.r.c. is one of the main methods of the hacking world he uses to keep in touch because of the ability for users to remain anonymous and confirmed clear his role saying that ryan cleary is not part of all sick we have one of our many legitima