f.c.c. might be bullying broadcasters into giving up spectrum without providing hard data and clear broadcastersat the can thoroughly deliberate and choose to participate or not in this. let me tell you what i'm thinking here. for example, the joint sales nowements that are outlawed, these agreements essentially offer broadcasters a in smallsiness model markets that would otherwise suffer from lack of service. considering increasing the attribution value of stations such that more broadcasters could end up in violation of the national cap under the broadcast ownership rule. f.c.c. has failed to broadcast petitions for changes to uhf even though the petitions were filed prior to relief act.lass tax finally you're seeking to use a i'mfied version of oet69, hearing about this, to repack inadcasters, likely result reduced coverage for broadcasters that choose to stay in the business, making the less viable.lf so you're trying to put spectrum be available will for auction, i think are concerned a

the f.c.c. is trying to figure that out as they try to propose new rules for the broadband, to make it work without stifling freedom of expression. critics argue that service providers will create a 2-tier internet, charging a premium for access to the fast lane - spelling the end to net neutrality. the challenge is how to preserve net neutrality without regulating the life out of the internet. got all that? our starting point is washington d.c. >> what this is about is a battle of who controls the future of communications. will it be the people that use the internet or the powerful corporations that provide internet access to people. this issue of hard internet service providers - information services or telecommunication services goes to the core of that question. >> to understand the debate one has to rewupd to 2002. until -- rewind to 2002. until that time internet service providers were common carriers - lake airlines, carriers, railroads, taxi cabs - they were licensed to carry goods, prov

now the f.c.c. has made many headlines recently because of its new proposal on net neutrality rules this proposal has received a lot of public criticism because it would allow broadband providers to strike deals that would prioritize some internet traffic over others the deal is not yet finalized right now though it is in the comment phase but today f.c.c. chairman testified on the issue of net neutrality so tell me about the testimony what did we say and what was the tenor of the conversation that already is opening statements chairman wheeler said right now there are new rules in place there's no laws in congress nothing keeping in place a free and open internet you know for net neutrality back in january the court struck down what rules the f.c.c. had created he talks is though he is a supporter of net neutrality and he claims he is he says that he supports a free and open internet he supports one internet that when a consumer goes to the internet service provider and pays for internet they're ge

is problem has to do with how the f.c.c. categorizes internet service right now broadband is considered an information service but edward how does this differ from a telecommunications service what to do with those two well it was highly regulated if you think back to t.v. there were enough provider they were basically considered a utility and therefore it's highly regulated but in the telecommunications act that we do you have this bifurcation between the internet service and. the traditional sort of blend that you have and so forth so that's regulated the live but the species who are giving you the internet service the broadband like a free for all it's not considered a utility it's considered a completely normal type more interesting no one ask you how are these rules currently. taking shape and what do you find problematic about. well here's the thing is that if you look at the internet as it's as it's done today really you just have a bunch of big players who are just take a look at the whole linsky. you have a lot of d

while they were causing trouble inside the f.c.c.i'm afraid to say there were hundreds or is about the dynamic in both places yeah well you know there's been occupied the f.c.c. protesters outside the building now for several weeks and chairman we were actually came out and spoke to the protesters at one point really yeah even today not today the previous day so today you know they were in there having their hearing there i think for people stood up and protested and you know and they got their you know that's right but it was one of these moments where we were kind of there's a show of force of the public there's a digital sign that of us that are brought that showed three point four million people around the world that in the u.s. have signed on to petitions in support of this there are also move on dot org members. outside of the offices of twenty different f.c.c. locations around the country so this is a you know huge so you get up right over three million activists a lot of them you know and what ten fifteen twenty companies tha

what will the f.c.c.s setting up currently with the rules - with the proposal they put forward is an internet where everywhere who is a web - who owns a website or provide web content would become a customer of every internet service provider out there, and have to negotiate terms with them on their own terms, to make sure that their content is not blocked or discriminated against. so certainly the internet economy will suffer. that is why, as i mentioned, so many companies and investors expressed concern about what the impact of the rules would have. >> in the final moments, how do other countries handle net neutrality. >> we have just seep major steps tan in brazil and in the e.u., where they passed strong net neutrality rules. this was something done in the faus of a lot of opposition from the telekom companies in those countries. fortunately the politicians there, and the lawmakers listened to the people who spoke up in overwhelming numbers to say they wanted to make sure the open internet was protect

the f.c.c. is equally troubling. the federal communications commission has failed to complete its review of broadcast properties. it's been six years, ikes years that the commission would last learn of this statutory mandate. the chairman is now announced that the was strapped. with standing the steal record. the f.c.c. also moved forward to make major tchinings the regulations that government media ownership anyway. the doctor changes to it a tribution rules that determine how to have the ownership rule. the it would begin couning oward the local ownership cat. these pronouncements will force them to look for another job and something that's in the smaller markets. they do not bring ben it ins drawing into question how this change can serve the public interest. 's been an on going priority of our subcommittee. i'm march 11 of this year. i continued to be troubled by the fcc. n march the aff restricted which is long been blessed by the committee. it's action was no debayed by the commissioners n

the f.c.c. has managed as well as it can without clear direction from congress about how the transition from the era of telephone service to the time when everything is delivered over the nint -- internet should take place and in my mind the f.c.c.'s done a good job. >> evaluating the 1996 telecommunications act with two of the house members who helped write it. monday at 8:00 eastern on "the communicators" on c-span 2. >> this week on "q&a" our guest who discusses his career in political activism and , "unstoppable: the emerging left-right alliance to dismantle the corporate state". ost: ralph nader, in your new book you start off the book and introduction by saying when of king about the genesis this back i remember the days working in my family's restaurant. you start that way? guest: because we were opposite of these opec style factories and down

in front of the f.c.c. building we're calling this correctly that sure tell us about it why thursday do you really think the doing it on the day of the vote will change it or i mean you know and what has led up to this well what is lead up to this is a tremendous amount of organizing and pressure phone calls to the f.c.c. members of congress raising their voice is a great letter from the senate last week led by senator ron wyden elizabeth warren bernie sanders a lot of great folks on that letter pushing the f.c.c. to do the right thing commissioner's rose and we're still in cliburn inside of the f.c.c. democratic commissioners actually pushing against the chairman's proposal so there's been a lot of pressure if you've got three republicans who are going to republicans two to one of whom is that has also asked the f.c.c. chair to delay his vote on these rules because you know the concern is that there's been such a public outcry and so much input coming from the public that they haven't really had time to fu

concerned with some of the proposals emerging the f.c.c. particularly in consideration of requesting broadband internet access services telecommunications service and are trying to the communications act this policy would be an extreme exercise of government overreach and likely regulating the internet owners' hail to the telecommunications act like a phone company is actually the best way to protect net neutrality the phone company after all can't listen in on your telephone conversation and then decide to charge you based on the content of your conversation or the person to whom you're talking ironically if the f.c.c. had its way from the get go common carrier status like that would even be in the conversation the f.c.c. only said it was doing it was open to doing so last week after activists and tech companies blasted wheeler's original plan to rewrite the rules ultimately it's those activists and tech companies who will be the key to keeping the in that open and free is of republicans in congress the f.c.c. chairman and former lobbyist

we filed our petition with the f.c.c.asking them to authorize trials of the ip transition back in nober of 2011. but actually the f.c.c. started talking about it before we did. in the course of developing the national broadband plan in 2009, the f.c.c. sought comments on -- lltsdz it wasn't called the i.p. transition they called it the sunset of the legacy phone network. and in the plan that they ultimately adopted, they basically noted that the ip transition was inevitable because it would not in the long run be sustainable to maintain two networks. what are those two networks? what are the differences between them? that is what i would like to talk about for a few minutes here. really, at the highest level the transition from circuit switching to packet switching is a very fundamental change in networking. a circuit switch network, that's the traditional network, works by reserving capacity across the network. so between whatever users are using the network for the duration of the call. a very smart engineer once observ

hill came less than a week after the f.c.c. formally proposed new rules that would allow so-called internet fast lane so despite the growing from lawmakers wheeler remained adamant that the newly proposed net neutrality rules are good for americans take a look. i've consistently said that there is only one internet there's not a fast internet and slow internet there's not. special services internet and now there is one internet and the consumer when the consumer buys access to the internet they are buying access to the full internet and that's what our rules attempt to protect spiral mr wheeler may say no mistake about it these new net neutrality rules in quotes are good for american consumers and are good for the internet they are however good for giant internet service providers like comcast and time warner and their executives who are trying to monopolize control over the internet so they can pad their bottom lines and their paychecks if the likes of comcast and time warner get their way the internet the last remaining remna

the f.c.c. mooed forward. we feel strongly that the path they have chosen is one that will end the open internet and will create paid priority that fast tlan you discussed, and slow down the content for everyone else. >> net neutrality advocates worry that it will abandon the idea of net neutrality. are you worried the new rules will do that. >> yes, the proposal that the chairman put forward does that. the proposal has to allow for room for negotiation and discrimination online that is the legal foundation that he chose to build the rules upon. it cannot be other than what it is. that's why so many are upset about the proposal. people were protesting outside the f cc on the day that the rules were voted on. there are over 150 tech companies that signed a letter. hundreds of non-profits, investors as well. this is something that landed with a thud. and created a lot of concern for the internet economy and users everywhere. >> why are companies worried about the ruling? >> they said when they argued in court, t

has n my mind the f.c.c. done a good job. >> evaluating the 1996 telecommunications act with two who helped members write it money on "the p.m. icators" at 8:00 eastern on c-span 2. >> on thursday secretary of john kerry was in london for meetings on syria. after the reporters meeting calling the upcoming june 3 elections in syria a farce. responded to allegations of chlorine being used as a weapon in syria. on ukraine he said the u.s. will impose more sanctions on russia if they roxies interfere with the scheduled may 25 elections in ukraine. foreign secretary spoke first to reporters. e will show you both of their remarks. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlem gentlemen. expressing myn by danica patrick condolence -- deep condolences to the people of turkey over the mining disaster. u.k. said to him the stands ready it assist our cannds in turkey any way we and the ministers gathered for the friends of syria core group observed a minute of silence in memory of the lives lost in turkey. hosted a series of me

for us it's been the f.c.c. and depending on what state you live in there may be redress available at the state level as well. and fourth, we've had network reliability. so for us we see this as two components. one is what happens during emergencies. you know, during a hurricane, after an earth quake, how do we make sure that the network is as robust as possible before the disaster strikes and then how do we get it back up as quickly as possible afterwards. and then a second part of reliability is just kind of the basic day-to-day how do we make sure that the network keeps functioning? i think up until this point the u.s. has done a really good job of making sure that we have a phone network that everybody can rely on in a way that we kind of take for granted now because it's just always been there and we know that you pick up a phone you're going to hear a dial tone you're going to be able to call someone. that call is going to go through. they'll be able to pick up, you'll be able to hear each other. it's very

the f.c.c. passed rules the open internet rules which prevented iowa speeds from discriminating against content. in january of this year a d.c. court shut down those rules saying they didn't have the authority to regulate internet service providers in such a way so the f.c.c. now has a very clear way to deal with this problem which is to reclassify internet service providers as common carriers just as they were in the past but instead we've seen chairman wheeler try to come up with new rules and new ways of doing things and what he's basically open the door allegedly according to media publications is to allow i asked to use the find creative ways to find to get more money out of content providers and for people who don't really understand what net neutrality is or what it means to average internet users can you break down an example of how this would affect the average internet user so no new. he basically sets up principles that prevent network discrimination so i asked because internet servic

if the f.c.c. allows huge corporations to negotiate -- quote, unquote -- fast-lane deals then the internet will eventually be sold to the highest bird. companies with the money will have the access and small businesses will be treated as second- or third-chase citizens. this is grotesquely unfair and this will be a disaster for our economy and for small businesses all across our country. i want to take this opportunity to thank commissioners clyburn and rose enwasel for their strong support of net neutrality. they are doing exactly what the american people want from the commission. during last week's commission hearing, the commissioner stated -- and i quote -- "we cannot have a two-tiered internet with fast lanes that speed the traffic of the privileged and leave the rest of us lagging behind." commissioner clyburn noted -- quote -- "the free open exchanges of ideas is critical to a democratic society." and she is, of course, absolutely right. now, i have to say, mr. president, and i don't mean to

and in my mind the f.c.c. has done a good job. >> evaluating the 1996 telecommunications act with two of the house members who helped write it money on "the communicators" at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span 2. >>, tomorrow, indiana governor mike pence speaks at the american enterprise institute about conservative solutions with medicaid. you can watch at 11:00 a.m. eastern on c-span2. on thursday, secretary of state jumper it was in london for meetings on syria. he spoke to reporters after the meeting calling the upcoming june 3 elections in syria a farce. he responded to allegations of chlorine being used as a weapon in syria. on ukraine he said the u.s. will impose more sanctions on russia and its proxies if they interfere with the scheduled may 25 elections in ukraine. the british foreign secretary spoke first to reporters. we will show you both of their remarks. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. i want to begin by expressing my deep condolences to the people of turkey over the terrible mining disaster.

when the f.c.c. first unveiled its new open internet proposal a few weeks ago, the commission contemplated whether to allow paid prioritizeation. under these proposed internet rules of the road, fast lanes could open to those who can pay, leaving others stuck in traffic. the result: consumers could be stuck in an online provider pileup when a broadband provider decides to slow down a streaming of netflix "house of cards" or bringing a high-speed yahoo search to a crawl or block a free online call to a friend abroad. but the worry goes far beyond simply slowing down the videos we watch on youtube. without a truly open internet, start-ups and small businesses would suffer, slowing our economy and job growth throughout massachusetts and throughout the country. no one should have to ask permission to innovate, but with fast and slow lanes that,'s precisely what an entrepreneur will need to do. right now the essence of the internet is innovate and test new ideas first. if an idea then takes off, the creat

and an f.c.c. proposal to create internet dance lanes has faced down the road block public response the proposal was harsh with critics fearing it would endanger net neutrality will take a look at that issue later in the show. it's tuesday may thirteenth by three am in washington d.c. i mean you're a david and you're watching r t america it's been almost a year now since journalist grand glenn greenwald excuse me wrote the first story revealing leaked documents from edward snowden since then there have been countless revelations both large and small about an effort for a base of surveillance network today greenwald is giving his own account of how the former n.s.a. whistleblower was able to release thousands of classified documents on a powerful intelligence community all while evading authorities it's all laid out in greenwald new book called no place to hide and coinciding with the book's release greenwald has released a trove of new n.s.a. documents artie's sam sachs has more. among the new n.s.

does not help in your situation but i want to ask you has the f.c.c. acted to protect net neutrality in the past and if so how so the f.c.c. has acted in the past to protect net neutrality in two thousand and ten you know they issued this open internet order that we've been operating under until about six months ago that basically set up a framework of net neutrality about six months ago the court a federal court in d.c. struck that down of course and this part gets a little bit in the legal way it's a just bear with me for a quick second here in two thousand and ten so so right now the internet is classified we talked about this earlier is classified as an information service instead of a telecommunications service because it's an information service which is under something called section seven no six sorry this is a nerdy. because it's under that search the court said seven o six you can do what you're trying to do you can't protect net neutrality in the way you're trying to do it f.c.c. under this section of the law so we think that in order to pro

the f.c.c. three-to-one to allow providers to charge for faster access in how content is prioritized and delivered. during a packed meeting interrupted at times by protesters, f.c.c. chairman tom wheeler said the internet could remain open as long as broadband providers do not offer access that is commercially unreasonable. >> as i said there is one internet it must be fast, it must be robust, and it must be open. the speed and quality of the connection the consumer purchases must be unaffected by what content he or she is using. the prospect of a gatekeeper choosing winners and losers on the internet is unacceptable. >> ifill: cecilia kang of the washington post was there today. and she's back with us to help explain the changes the f.c.c. has planned. explain the debate that was behind this 3-2 vote. >> well, the debate behind 39-2 vote is really what truly in the end will be best for consumers in terms what is the most open and neutral internet as you say. now unpacking some of that jargon, t

i used to work telecom issues when i worked on the hill the f.c.c. has spent eons amount of energy you know why am i spending our extra money in order to get an obviously there are only a few premium categories i don't know why maybe because i managed to have an extra . everything we see is a valued enough for them to carry it but that's a different issue why do i pay extra money for h.b.o. pre their premium channels that's only or small there's no there's other one hundred channels there's only less than ten that are premium it's the opposite with cable everything is forced down your throat if you only want five to. you don't get that as an option this is actually moving in the direction of letting you if that's what you want you can get h.b.o. cinemax that i've been able to cash out of non-agency packages i mean they were for all these things it's a bit but and if they were going to label it as a common carrier and you want to be able to to watch house of cards in h.d. that that systems are already in place even as a common carrier was there you pa

well it seems like the f.c.c.has done itself into a little pinch over a controversial open internet proposal now after major public backlash we're learning that the chairman of the federal communications commission tom wheeler has revised that proposal in order to ensure a level playing field among the companies offering content the previous f.c.c. proposal had come under fire with free internet advocates angered over the commission's plan to segregate web traffic into fast and slow lanes the rules but it allowed for broadband providers to strike deals with content providers such as netflix or h.b.o. to achieve faster download times for their customers we're is attempting to appease the critics with a new draft and include language making it clear that the f.c.c. plans to scrutinize the deals to make sure broadband providers don't put nonpaying companies at a disadvantage but does this go far enough i was joined earlier by our tourney and activist kevin zeese first ask them to go back to the original proposal and

the f.c.c. takes on net neutrality and the internet may never be the same. we'll tell you what it means in plain english and why it matters. >>> the sudden firing of the first woman to run the "new york times". >>> we are family - my interview with nile reasonabliers, what he did -- rogers, what he did in the wake of 9/11 that is changing the world. >>> we begin with a war against wild fires. more than 2,000 firefighters battling the flames. these images give you a sense of how dangerous the situation is. within two days some 10,000 acres of burns, homes, schools and neighbourhoods threaten. tonight police confirm the fire claimed its first victim. let's go to brian rooney, live in san marcos with more. brian. >> reporter: it's sup down here, i -- sundown here. i can see for miles. i see no active fires at the moment, which is fairly typical. the winds come down, temperatures down, but it's been very busy. >> reporter: fires popped up faster than firefighters can knock them down. swirling black smoke car i the embers straight up. wind and heat create tornado

well activists have come out in full force today and gathered in front of the f.c.c.headquarters to voice of their concern over a proposal that many say could be the end of the internet as we know it now earlier today the absentee voted to release chairman tom his new proposed rules for broadband internet providers to the general public and these new rules could potentially allow web providers such as comcast and horizon to establish a pay to play system in which traffic would be divided into slow and fast lanes leading to. a major advantage for companies that can afford to pay for higher speeds now backlash from the internet community has already pushed we were to revise his original proposal to specifically give the f.c.c. the power to examine any deal that would put nonpaying companies at a disadvantage but activists here are saying that this proposal doesn't go merely far enough to ensure access to a free and open internet for all they're calling for broadband to be classified as a public utility and have the equivalent regulation of electricity and water a public

also on c-span2 at noon, the congressional internet committee meets to discuss the f.c.c.'s plans to open internet rules. and on c-span3 from the national press club, a look at veterans jobs programs including comments from a representative of the american legion. that's live at 10:00 a.m. eastern. and in a few moments, a look at today's headlines plus your calls live on "washington journal." at 11:30 eastern, former secretary of state, hillary clinton speaks the america foundation. naacpst noon, the ncaa -- marks the 60th anniversary of the supreme court's brown vs. board of education decision. in 45 minutes, we will focus on the housing decision. a senior editor with telecommunications reports will take your questions about the sec's vote to move ahead with new rules for noted internet. analyzelook at ways to gross to mastic product with erich strassner. ♪ host: a rather busy news week in washington and around the country. we will want to hear your views on some of the public policy issues that are in the news this week. this morning on "washington journal," you can see t

and if we're going to rely upon f.c.c. to regulate our telecommunications companies to storing 18hey're months of data, i would suggest that's a precarious place for us national security. so i offer this amendment, mr. chairman, and to the committee, this is an amendment that is something i've brought up multiple times throughout these hearings, that we've had and it does this. it allows for the intelligence theunity to negotiate with telecommunicationings companies telecommunications companies can agree to retain that information in private hands for a longer period of time. it's not specific as to the length of time. provide for any bulk data to go into the possession of government. preserves the principles of the underlying bill and the aendment in the name much substitute. and it provides for the safety and security of america. we should are two things in mind here today. one of them is protect the civil americans.f the second one is not to diminish our national security. in fact protect the national security that exis

the f.c.c. rules date back to the time of phone lines and dial ups. would a wait and see approach be better than trying to make a decision in an industry that's changing almost every day? >> i don't think so. i don't think we need to wait and see to understand that people want a communication system where they're in charge. it is something like a phone line. imagine if your phone company said we don't want you calling those numbers anymore. we want you to have a special deal. we have a special deal with pizza hut, we don't want you calling dominos with the same speed. people get it. especially once you get inside of the beltway, this is about consumers and internet users having the choices to say what they want and go where they want on line -- >> finish what you were saying. >> not having the internet service provider deciding that for you, but letting you make that choice for that connection that you likely pay a lot for every month. >> ok, thank you. matt joins us from washington, d.c. this morning. thank you very much. >> protestors clashing with

protection of what should be really a utility that that's regulate a public good which is what the f.c.c. in the thirty's and twenty's with a. if you thirty's started out regulating that's one of the things i was going to bring up to you back in the one nine hundred thirty s. a federal regulations were drafted for the telephone companies allowing on the radio it will again radio equal access do you think that that could be in the pipeline regarding these new f.c.c. rules that are coming out of the no now there with the net neutrality and the basically retreat of the f.c.c. from regulating this is really we've gone from a situation where the broadband spectrum which was sold off your auctioned off to the highest bidders. the t.v. spectrum really and radio spectrum really don't mean anything anymore the radio spectrum probably more because people listen to it in their cars to get sports and weather and traffic but that's small potatoes t.v. broadcasters now funneled into broadband it's all related with these interfaces of networks and apps is convergence another words so you know the old n