in addition faa faces challenges of unmanned aircraft system and faa must put tact critical it systems from a growing number of cyberthreats and lastly faa needs to do more to ensure part such as landing gear meet safety standards by carefully implementing the parts program. is always my office remains committed to supporting faa on the secretaries as they work to maintain aviation safety to protect the traveling public this concludes my prepared statement i am happy to answer any questions you are the subcommittee may have. >> we appreciate your testimony. although the investigations of both crashes are still ongoin ongoing, the investigators have gathered enough data to confirm similarities between the two crashes most prominently it seems to be a new software unique to the 737 max call the maneuvering characteristic augmentation system. was there any information on this new system that was required to be included on the short self-administered online course that pilots are required to take before flying? . >> mister chairman, thank you for the question the t-3 system with great atte

we want to determine when mcas was added to the aircraft and why faa approved it, or the extent of faa's in boeing's decision to approve it. how faa reached the decision that pilots did not need additional training or the details about the new system did not need to be included in the airplane's manual. that's the first bookend. the second bookend in my view will be how faa responded to the recent accidents and that's specifically senator blumenthal's question. clearly, confidence in faa as the gold standard for aviation safety has been shaken. we can help provide information to the secretary and to the congress to determine how best to restore faa to that position. the second bookend we hope will shed some light on the obvious question as to why faa might have been the last, it was the last, in fact, safety regulator to decide to ground the 737 max. other safety regulators around the world decided that in their role as safety regulators, they needed to drive risk to zero and they did that by grounding the aircraft. the acting administrator elwell has testified that they were continuing

do you get the feeling that president sort of pushed the faa towards this decision or overruled the faa at all >> i don't think he overruled -- look this is conjecture. i don't think he overruled, but i think if you listen to kayla tausche or eamon javers and they cover the white house extensively, this is a president who it appears when he sort of has made up his mind about something, that's the direction of the policy. whether or not he did this in consultation with the faa, little hard to say it may be after canada said we don't feel comfortable with this and this wave of countries and airlines saying we're grounding the plane, it may be that the president finally said you know what, we look a little odd going against the trend that is happening around the world out of an abundance of caution shut it down and ground these planes there's no way of knowing what made him decide today that finally we were going to ground these planes, but i wouldn't be be surprised if certainly the fact that everybody else has done it, certainly weighed in to his decision >> so phil, a lot of people, esp

the faa. the they pronounced that plane was airworthy and they had no reason to say otherwise, what they were saying was no one has brought us evidence on a silver platter. when we issued the certificate, we relied on boeing and boeing's inspectors and boeing told us it was ok. until we get more evidence we won't change our certificate. that is not the same thing as representing to the world you are the foremost aviation safety agency. that is where they dealt the image of the united states as the aviation leader in the world, that has been dealt a blow. >> we talk about these issues, the work of the faa, how much sway does boeing have to say these are the issues? what is it say about the current condition of the faa of boeing has that kind of sway? >> boley has had that kind of sway for decades. boeing is not alone in controlling the debate and the certification process. that is how the faa over the years has deferred to the industry. we said the same thing when i was inspector general. we lo

the faa is officially the u.s. representative to icao but we work closely with them, with our relationship with icao. >> i see. you would be involved in that? >> yes, senator, we would. >> okay. follow up on that later. one last question i had of you, chairman sumwalt, in your testimony high lighted reducing fatigue-related accidents as one of ntsb's most wanted transportation safety improvements for 2019 to 2020. as you know i have led the safe skies act supported by captain sullenberger among many, along with senator cantwell, bloom bloom, markky and duckworth, to take the rest requirements we put in place for passengers pilots apply them to cargo pilots. this is something unrelated to the two crashes but part of airline safety and i know the families have supported. so could you comment on that. >> absolutely. i want to thank you and senator blumenthal on that. for your advocacy. ntsb does not agree there should be different standards for passenger carrying airlines and cargo carrying airlines over the fatigue r

trump wanted to cut the faa budget over a year ago. he shuts down the government for five weeks and this relation of software upgrades between boeing and the faa was put on hold. donald trump is directly involved in this. he should be called to a congressional hearing and required to testify under oath. it is hard to make him go to capitol hill, but he has to growow up. he is a person who has no sense of consequence. he is more than just a big it and endure narcissistic, but he has no sense of consequence whatsoever. he does not have nearly the maturity of the post he was selected for by the electoral college. i think we need to go right to the top. the head of boeing has got to testify. we have had quite enough of this. -- the airlines as the aircraft is safe but needs more upgrades. the faa has had a tombstone mentality. it reacts after crashes, it does not anticipate. that hasasot to stop. it will only stop when consnsumers boycott t that plane. if s somebody outt there listening could setup a network where that boycott could accele

on the a lot of pressure faa.specially when you have these historically key allies including canada, the u.k., australia, banning the 737s. it says a lot about what pressure they are putting on the faa. really putting the u.s. aviation administration in the spotlight. and its credibility being questioned. amanda: absolutely. credibility, of course, as the leadership in the u.k. under pressure. battle lines being drawn. at issue, a new deal brexit. prime minister theresa may suffered an overwhelming defeat on her divorce deal yesterday. with u.k. lawmakers voting again today on whether or not to leave the european union without an agreement or put an extension in place. here with the implications is heather conley, senior vice president and director of the year program who joins us from washington. i want to start with -- there are so many possible outcomes. we should note that once again, uncertainty has to be the name of the game ahead of the evening vote in the u.k. is there an expectation of what will happen he

had had his way on the matter with the faa, but he didn't. as a consolation prize, we still have no permanent person running that agency, more than two years into this presidency. the faa, for its part in all this, says everything's fine. no need to worry. now, congress may try to act. including republicans in congress who may try to act. the transportation secretary apparently has the option to act. although she is the wife of the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, and so maybe it's hard for her to make such a decision outside the political crosswinds. but there's one other piece of this that you may not have heard about today that you should know about in the middle of this crisis. and, honestly, you should know about it because i think it will curl your hair. again, remember based on these two recent crashes of this type of plane that have killed almost -- almost 350 people. based on those crashes, and based on other similar descriptions from american pilots describing domestic flights here yet u.in the u.s. s type of plane, a

the faa in the u.s. u is not one. contessa >> they're sticking to it, but canada, big reversal, announcing that boeing can't find into, out of, over canada and the restriction's affecting not just the max 8, but the 9 as well the transport minister said he had full confidence in the canadian pilots and there have been no abnormalities reported, but he says he believes the data between those two deadly 737 max 8 crashes were just too similar. he was asked if he believe d th faa would follow suit. here's what he said. >> got this data this morning, analyzed it and made a decision. i can't tell you for sure if the faa has the data and but we are in touch with them and so they will know by now. and they have to make their own decisions about wla they feel that in comparing the flights, whether that is a threshold point for them >> but at this point, it is just the united states, which is still allowing these boeing max 8s to fly. american and southwest continue to fly the max 8 publicly, they're standing behind the safety

these: if the faa says aircrafts are air, can we not trust the faa? .ustin: you can one of the issues that is most likely playing a role is the pilots in the u.s. that fly this plane are not coming out calling for any changes. they feel comfortable. they carry a lot of weight in this debate. until we see a shift from them, yesterday flight attendant -- a large flight attendant union asked for the grounding but the pilots have not taken that step. that is playing a role in terms of the carriers. up until now -- guy: up until now, boeing's response was it was going to change the trading manual. we do not know whether those flights were connected. whether these two crashes are connected. what can boeing do to deal with this situation other than saying, it went down to pilot training? what needs to happen is get actual fact set of the situation in ethiopia and find out, is this related to the same set of causes that is believed to be responsible in indonesia? is this separate? that lack of information is what is driving regulators. error on the side of ca

that in past instances, you see faa take the lead. and other foreign regulators looking to the faa for guidance and coordinating their effort and their approach to these things which is making it increasingly more stark that the u.s. has not grounded those planes while almost every other country has. >> kayla, thanks >>> here's what else is coming up today on "the exchange. >> coming up -- travel sites will now help you see what plane you're flying on spotify's ceo blasts apple peltz gets into pot. and cities are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to woo "the bachelor. it's all ahead on rapid fire for just $39.00 ? yup that's what we do. and you guarantee they'll get there? yup that's great! i have two sets. you know ship sticks only ships golf clubs? right? honey are we there yet? umph! ship sticks. that hurt. >>> welcome back pretty nice rally shaping up across penalty todwall street t. the nasdaq hitting its highest intraday level since october the s&p a five-month high. we have a fed rate decision and a vote on the "b" word

had had his way on the matter with the faa, but he didn't. as a consolation prize, we still have no permanent person running that agency more than two years into this presidency. the faa for its part in all this says everything is fine. no need to worry. now congress may try to act including republicans in congress who may try to act. the transportation secretary has the option to act although she is the wife of the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell so maybe it's hard to imagine her making such a decision inside the political cross winds. but there is one other piece of this that you may not have heard about today that you should know about in the middle of this crisis. and honestly, you should know about it because i think it will curl your hair. again, remember based on these two recent crashes of this type of plane that have killed almost 350 people, based on those crashes and based on other similar descriptions from american pilots describing domestic flights in the u.s. in this type of plane, describing a similar problem they

i suspect that what they're sharing with the faa is giving the faa enough confidence to say, it is notere was some indication that a number of takeoffs, the pilots were encountering a situation that they overcame and the plane went on and successfully flew from point a to point b, but they had some anomalies or had situations that developed during the takeoff, i would suspect that they would ground these planes or take a stronger stance than what they're taking now if you listen to southwest, i talked to people at american who are saying, we don't see a problem at all it sets up a very unusual situation. not only for boeing, but also for the faa, where they believe in data. and their data does not show them there is enough to ground these planes. >> phil, yeah, thank you we'll be checking in with you of course throughout as we watch boeing shares sink a bit this morning as news continues to mount. phil lebeau in chicago. >> boeing is the pinnacle of american manufacturing, great exporter there is a lot on the line here. if we don't -- these are not idle countries, they don't want to do

the faa of course is investigating.g a preliminary report on the cause of the ethiopian airlines crash that prompted the grounding of the 737 max. much has been made about boeing's extensive role in getting faa certification. a boeing official today admits they have a hill to climb. >> we're working with customers, regulators around the world to restore faith in our industry, also to reaffirm our commitment to safety, to earning the trust of the flying public. reporter: the other big development today, boeing officials are discussing their fix to the anti-stall system on the 737 max which is being implicated in both fatal crashes. the new software requires two censors on the front of the plane to agree the attack angle is to high before the mcas system puts in to force the nose down. a faulty sensor has been the problem. the system is only engaged once so pilots won't have to fight with it to turn it off. boeing has been testing the it in simulators for weeks and delivered the plan to the faa in january. it will coopera

in a minute we'll talk to thera adminir of the faa. as mentioned, the u.s. has now joined the rest of the world grounding the fleet in the wake of two recent air crashes. >> we'll talk to the head of the faa, but first tom costello jos us from reagan national with the very latest on this. hey, tom, goodin mo >> reporter: good morning. if you're flying today be prepared for cancellations, and it's not just because of the max 8 and max 9. weave a massive snowstorm really messing things up.

the faa says theli ar is air worthy. in a statement the company saidt safety is boeing eboeing's numr one priority and we have full confidence in the safety of the max, end quote. that's not enough for lawmakersn in washing who are calling on the faa to reverse its decision. senator ted cruz says he plans to hold a hearing on the fatal crashes of two boeing 737 max 8 jets since october, a that sent the stock down another 6% in trading today.u phil lebas been covering the story for us all along. it's didn't to see you, phil. so with all these groundings, how much pressure is the faa under and the airlines that fly the plane, american and southwest and others? >> and united as well as air canada here in north america. sue, there is immense pressure no only on the airlines but also on the faa, because the faa feeling heat not only from lawmakers inwashington there were tweets today pby the president talking about the complexity of plaairplanes and whether they're too complex. that led to a phone call between president trump

the faa considers these designees an arm of the faa.t of recent crashes and concerns over a redesigned boeing plane. the oda program may need an inspection of its own. >> i do believe it's time to relook at this and to see if the activity or involvement between the involvement between the faa and boeing is enough. >> inspectors hired by companies would have inadequate qualifications or a history of poor performance to approve certification projects. another report found the faa cannot be assured it has the right number of people in the right places to oversee the program the faa report indicated it was developing a new process. it's unclear if that has happened. the inspection process and its oversight is exactly what peter defazio is concerned about in the recent crashes involving the reengineered boeing 737 max. for some reason that approved redesign did not include retraining pilots on a new automated computer system to prevent aircraft stalls and steep assents. boeing did issue a bulletin. but pilots have complained they had no idea

the report came through the faa, the faa says that's who they can be submitted anonymously without fearepercussions or punishments. and in that database, we found reports submitted by pilots of these flights. we don't know which airlines they were flying for or where it took place. they were voicing concerns about the system during take off during the plane. which airlines in u.s. were flying these planes. >> the two airlines that had the largest airlines, southwest and american airlines which was based in fort worth. we don't know for certain that these reports came from these pilots because that information is redacted from the database. they were flying the largest number in the u.s. it seems that may be some of them over come from the pilots. both of the union told us the pilot unions believe the planes are safe to fly. >>. >> let me read one the complaints that you found. this pilot says, it is unconscionable that the airlines would have us flying planes without adequate training or providing resources to understand the highly complex system. the fact that this airplane requi requi

faa?: we on earth is the unusual fors highly the rest of the world to buck the faa. it does appear this is based on widespread panic. nobody knows what happened to the ethiopia airline plane. safetys fear that other regulators are reacting to. it's hard to justify except for the fact that there's another issue with the faa. their budget has been cut so much, they no longer do their own certification for safety. they allow the manufacturers to use their own employees to certify these plans. that will become a big issue on capitol hill. the new trump budget cuts 5% more. these problems will get more manifest. david: surprisingly good news out of the eurozone -- the were going up 1.4% for the year. it's the highest it has been since november of 2017. michael: the only discouraging news, germany was the only major .ountry that saw a decline they will eke out growth because of services. just a slower rebound than people thought. a lot of what people had -- can they get growth higher? does that keep the ecb on hold longer? deutsche bank saying this is costing us money beca

by faa managers. meanwhile tonight we are seeing that there will be a new nominee. the white house nominating a ne. he is former chief of safety at delta airlines. he will be the new faa administrator. lester? >> all right. tom costello, thank you. >>> another deadly incident under investigation tonight. police say a charter bus driver has been charged with involuntary manslaughter after his bus overturned in heavy fog, killing two people and injuring dozens of others on i-95 south of richmond, virginia. >>> tonight that massive petrochemical fire outside of houston continues to rage out of control, and with growing concerns from the community about potential health effects, authorities now say they have no idea when the fire will end. nbc's gabe gutierrez is there. >> reporter: tonight it's no longer clear how long this inferno will burn. authorities had initially thought wednesday. now no timetable. the blaze intensified overnight as firefighters say they were running low on water pressure. as the s

so, we could be learning later today that the faa may be getting additionalfunding so that the faa may funding so it that the faa may be getting additionalfunding so it can retain that oversight. how will this play out in the long term for boeing? the order book for this type of plane is huge, it's a massive cash cow for boeing, at least it was. as well as all of this which is going on which is obviously damaging the brand, the customers seem to be split. many say they believe in boeing. ethiopian, for one, that suffered that catastrophe recently, saying it believes in boeing. 0ther catastrophe recently, saying it believes in boeing. other airlines are stepping back and have made their cancellations. 0bviously, that will put a dent in their finances as well. it is going to roll out and we have to see whether this aircraft will sustain the orders it promised. boeing is also bringing together a lot of its operators, operators of the max to go to safety issues. i just want to add that i've reached out to the department ofjustice in the usa and there are rumours that the usa and there are

ethiopia is leading the investigation with assistance from the faa and ntsb. it's part of the information they collect to monitor planes globally it was given to the faa monday it's a jand official tuesday night. by wednesday morning canadian officials had done an about-face and grounded their planes. the u.s. authority said they went and refined the data. it took them days to do that, and they collected more physical evidence on the ground, and then made that decision in the middle of the afternoon yesterday in reaction to grounding, those max 8 and max 9 boeing released a stanlt saying we are supporting this proactive step out of an abundance of caution safety is a core value at boeing for as long as we've been building airplanes it always will be. there is no greater priority for our company and our industry boeing shares are lower in the premarket, and yesterday we saw a big most nosedive, but then closing half a percent >> around $25 billion to $30 billion shaved off of boast agency market value because of this there is a reason why because boeing 737 lin

the faa maintains the jet is airworthy.for the most recent crash in ethiopia, the ceo of ethiopian airlines tells a journal that in recordings of pilot conversations with controllers, the pilot reported he was having flight control problems and did not indicate any other external problems with the jet or the flight, like birds, for example. >> i think the problem again is that if it is the -- that someone didn't go by procedures, you ground the planes and study the procedures and make everyone take some sort of course, do something. i think that boeing's big problem is that boeing doesn't know anything that is wrong. faa doesn't know anything that is wrong not like someone saying, here's what's wrong so they're in a tough spot, they're going to call and say, look, we have no belief anything is wrong, but we're going to recall and shut down our planes. and what we're going to do is look at them and we're going to find out that nothing is wrong what is boeing supposed to do? you're boeing. do you say, look, you know, if we ha

the faa faces tough questions about its aircraft certification process following two max 8 disasters. >>> chicago police release documents in jussie smollett's case while the actor's attorney calls for officials to stop their smear campaign. >>> and lottery luck. quarters of a billion dollars. where the winning powerball ticket was sold. ♪ good morning from the studio 57 newsroom at cbs headquarters here in new york. good to be with you. i'm anne-marie green. boeing says it is moving forward with software updates on its 737 max jets. this follows a contentious day of hearings from capitol hill about whether the faa relied too heavily on boeing to help certify the 737 max jets. two of the planes were involved in deadly crashes in just the last six months. laura podesta is here in new york. laura, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, anne-marie. yes, there is pressure not only on boeing following these crashes but also on transportation officials because those officials readily admit they relied on boeing engineers to perform the safety checks to certify boeing planes. >> safety is

a lot of people don't know exactly what faa inspectors do.here was nobody, nobody on the beat for over a month. and that's what our concern was. we talk to inspectors all the time. >> now the president tweeted yesterday, and he said in part, airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. pilots are no longer needed but rather computer scientists from m.i.t., and he continued with albert einstein. sort of a joke. does he have a point that planes are becoming too complex, or is it just completely and utterly inappropriate that a president would be coming out and basically saying, i would be scared to fly. planes are too complex for pilots? >> well, i'm not exactly clear what the point of the tweet was, but i think buried in there was a point about technology and the cockpit that has some validity. i wasn't exactly sure what the overall point was. sully sullenberger who we know from the hudson river, the pilot of the us airways aircraft, he has been vocal about this for years. what we don't know in this case is these two airlines, were they give

director said the decision was his, meaning the faa.id the agency just today got enough information to see similarities between the earlier lion air disaster and the crash of the ethiopian airlines max 8 this week. investigators suspect a hardware and software system designed to push the planes nose down when it is pointing too high might have instead acting to put the plane into a dive. the faa has data suggesting the ethiopia 737 may have followed a similar flight path. you recall yesterday after a phone call from the boeing ceo, the president did not take any action. today after another call from boeing he did. here to talk about it is former department of transportation inspector mary scavo, an analyst and plaintiffs attorney for activists and families and including in cases against the boeing company. also cnn aviation correspondent richard quest joins us. so the grounding of the planes, what does it mean for air travel in the u.s. because there are not a lot of the planes actually being used, correct? >> no, there is not a lot. bu

for decades, the faa has relied on aircraft manufacturers to help certify the planes for flight. jeff guzzetti is the former faa accident investigations chief. >> you have to rely on the integrity of the boeing

but not the faa, which it says it is airworthy. that stock is one to keep an eye on, along with other airlines, including united, continental and american airlines. worst networks is the performer in the s&p 500, downgraded on a recent acquisition, not pleasing to the street. and i thought it would point out wells fargo, not much movement, but on capitol hill there is a lot of tackling and parrying as tim sloan answers questions from the representatives, maybe going over old ground, but he has found himself defending wells fargo and its behavior in the last couple years once again. guy: we have talked about brexit. theresa may could face defeat today of her brexit strategy. the dup, the irish unionist party that supports her government is rejecting the revised terms she secured a last night. for the latest -- secured last night. for the latest we are joining in our analysts. she will lose, the question is by how much. >> the indication we have on the mp's who have come out to say they are against the deal, it is looking like anothe

and the faa is allows to do that. when something happens, the faa looks to boeing for guidance.ave rocket scientists, the faa doesn't. this is not like their behavior in any other situation, except this time it is completely crazy. here's why. after the lion air crash, the faa said and issued the guidance, the guidance which yesterday said if boeing doesn't do this, the f:a will order this change by april. they said without these changes to the computer on the 737 max, it could lead to difficulty controlling the plane, altitude loss and possible impact with terrain. pretty scary things to a pilot and passengers. but now they say we aren't going to order any change, because we don't know what the second fatal crash is. you've already said the first crash was -- they're ordering boeing to -- and now there's the possibility of the second -- it's only going to take a week to see what's in the black boxes. >>> i have a flight coming up with my family, should we be concerned with flying this jet right now? >> sure. it's common sense you should be concerned. so to not act on their own

does it make the sense the faa would take the lead of the company?e a conflict of interest. >> no. when i was inspector general of the d.o.t., we were constantly investigating why the faa seemed to be a toothless tiger and took the boeing's word for it and took the airlines' words for it. it's not just for boeing, it's not like they have a special treatment for boeing. the faa does its job through a series largely of designated inspectors and, for example, at boeing, the inspectors, the surrogates, if you will, to do the inspections for the faa, often are picked from boeing employees. i was tasked to look at the certification of the 777 and there they had 4 million lines of code and 150 computers, and the faa readily admitted, no, we don't know if the computers are safe, we don't know what the lines of code do. all we know is they followed our procedure and the designated inspector said they did. 95% of that plane was self-certified so that's how they do it, through a series of designated inspectors so they defer what they will readily admit is to th

the faa says the plane is still airworthy. investigators arl on the scene looking to see if there's am probith the aircraft that many consider to be an important part of boeing's future. phil lebeau has mo o. >> reporte day after the crash of an ethiopian airline 737 max 8, vectors have recovered the black boxes that couldxplain what went wrong. shortly after takeoff the pilot said there was aem probl and struggled to control thebelane fore it crashed. easter eeimilar to what happened with a lion air 737 max 8 crashed in the java sea last october. >> it certainly is too early to rush t judgment. the two different accidents in two different countries but until we get a lite more facts we can't compare them. >> reporter: boeing says the mai 8 safe despite concerns the plane's design could create certain situations where faulty data mig force the max 8's automatic anti-stall technolog kick in. when that happens, it pushes the plane's nose lower. some pilotsy have complained t didn't know about that technology or how to deal with

arnt at the faa early on.rocess development lead for the world when it comes to the faa for almost four years. we worked on this. it came out great. it worked really well. i'm not sure we had the foresight to know what happens way down the road when the faa starts getting less involved and starts not having the critical oversight at the level it needs to have. >> less involved and, plus, a lot of human capital sharing and there's a lot of contact between boeing and the faa and boeing and washington. put up the graphic we have just about the connective tissue here. just to kind of deal with this idea of was it just about data oar was this about something else? the tenth largest lobbying player. all right? 2018 lobbying topped $15 million. they give to everybody. in fact, in this last election, they give a lot of money to republicans and democrats. not just one party. trump oversaw the sale of the max planes in vietnam. they give him $1 million for the inauguration. all right? now you have a former boeing exec t

so far, the faa, u.s. airlines, and boeing, are behind the aircraft, suggesting early problems have been addressed. boeing said this, the faa is not mandating any further action at this time, based on information currently available, we do not have any basis to issue new guidance to operators. some in congress are not commenced. >> it makes sense not to ground the aircraft until we have better information. >> ground the plane into the faa has a chance to review their safety. >> reporter: president trump with the boeing ceo after tweeting airplanes are becoming far too many familiar with the aircraft back to the faa's decision. >> there is no systemic problem, i don't care what mr. i don't care what they say in australia. there is no systemic reason to ground the airplane. >> reporter: officials have now recovered the black box flight recorder which is being sent overseas for analysis. they have not specified clear. back to you. >> thank you. >>> new efforts to get back logged thousands of kits tested acros

all of this force the faa's hand? hastionally, the , andtionally done this other regulators follow their lead. we have seen a reversal of the traditional circumstances. stuff, who litigate this they say the faa does not have to pay any attention to what any other regulator is doing in the world. they have to act on whether they think there is substantial evidence to justify the grounding. it is more of a judgment call than that would suggest. it is not some technical standard. is to decide whether there is substantial evidence to justify grounding. we have had the report for several months detailing the problems that led up to the lion air crash. your judgment about what evidence is balanced on the head of a pin. rishaad: david, it is not just these two incidents. there are federal record showing five complaints from five different airlines operating this aircraft. the pilot saying they have had problems with it, complained about the plane actually wanting to go down at critical moments during flight, i.e. takeoff. >>

the faa is not going to move. >> this is very early in the process. think the first place we have to start is by offering our condolences. >> judge ellis is lenient, judge jackson has a lot more reasons to be unhappy. >> this has nothing to do with the trump campaign. >> he's obstructed justice, lied to prosecutors, i can't imagine she would like kindly upon that. >>> parent flaunted their wealth so they could set their children up. >> we're talking about deception and fraud. >> i'm pissed off and appalled. these people have to be held accountable innocen accountable. >> announcer: this is new day with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> we do begin with breaking news for you because cnn has learned that at least five pilots in the u.s. have raised concerns about the boeing 737 max 8 jets. this is according to records in a federal government incident database. they could leave their complaints confidently and they did so. this is the aircraft, of course, involved in those two deadly crashes in just the last five months. in one incident, a pilot report

the faa inspector general calvin scovel has promised that a full investigation. he says the faa will revamp its safety procedures for new aircraft development..ndra limon. (n)

new information from the faa. this is southwest airlines jets at love field in dallas, which is i guess their largest hub. the center of the southwest universe. all 34 of their 736 max jets are grounded now. because suddenly we've gotten word from the faa that they see similarities between the last two crashes of these jets. we're waiting for new information on this. trace gallagher compiling it. we'll go live to him in a few minutes. and the accused college entrance leaders are meeting the law, this is the live look in los angeles. lori loughlin, aunt becky to a generation of "full house" fans will appear in an hour. she's one of dozens caught up in a major admission scam. loughlin faces conspiracy to commit mail fraud. her husband also charged prosecutors say the pair paid $500,000 in bribes to get their two daughters into the university of southern california. as recruits for the crew team. neither of them ever played crew or rowed crew or knew anything about crew as a sport or otherwise. it's not clear whether

the faa regulates boeing.o step up, they really look to the faa for this kind of guidance. so candidate was one of the few allies the faa had left in terms of countries that had not decided to ground the aircraft. guy: these safety agencies, they do not know what is in the black boxes yet, are they looking at other data which could be encouraging them to make these moves? ben: it appears that this is whether the conflict is between the faa and other regulators, that there is satellite data recovered, just taken from the satellites that keep track of the aircrafts. and canada and europe, they seem to think that this is sufficient enough to ground the aircraft. the question is for the faa, which is quite firm that it is not conclusive enough towards that action. guy: how big of a snub is this, that the black boxes are going to europe? ben: we do not know where they are sending them yet, perhaps germany or france, or the u.k., but it is a snub to the faa. it is a boeing aircraft. ge engines from the u.s. so it is

the new faa chief is a pilot, the new faa chief ran flight operations at delta.going to be a little bit more oversight on faa's part going forward. this was really about boeing trying to catch up, lauren, with a very fast flight race or foot race with airbus a320, because ultimately the debate inside boeing was whether to do a clean sheet design or do a new engine remount. the new engine remount caused the differential lift on the climb angle of attack. that's why they needed the software boot and the system put on. but that is away from what boeing philosophy typically has been, which is let the pilots maneuver their aircraft let them fly their plane. when the auto pilot is on, m-cast is off. so that's essentially what was taking place in lion air and we'll find that was taking place in ethiopian air as well. lauren: oliver mcgee, thank you very much for your perspective this morning. >> thank you for having me, lauren. cheryl: since winning back the house last fall, democrats have been tilting more left, proposing bolder policies like medicare for all, the gree

and one faa approved faa said planes could be back in the air in days and all you have to do is takeund the upgrade which would last about half an hour. and boeing will make standard a warning light about the angle of flight which in the past was sold to airlines as an upgrade. but until the faa approves all of the changes that 737 max will remain grounded. erin. >> thank you very much, drew. >>> and next, is it a germ concern? jeanne moos on pope francis trying to stop people from kissing his ring. with the most s of the year like lobster lover's dream and new ultimate lobsterfest surf and turf. so come lobsterfest today! and now for a limited time, get ten percent off red lobster to go. on a john deere x300 series mower. because seasons change but true character doesn't. wow, you've outdone yourself this time. hey, what're neighbors for? it's beautiful. run with us. search "john deere x300" for more. this is the averys trying the hottest new bistro. this is the averys. wait...and the hottest taqueria? and the hottest...what are those? oh, pierogis? and this is the averys wondering

this is what the acting administrator of the faa had to say about the flight data yesterday. >> the fullrack of the flight was very close to lion air the initial track that we got on sunday and monday morning was only three minutes long, the first three minutes of the flight the new track data we looked at was almost for the entire length of the flight. also, the evidence that we discovered on the ground actually was even further evidence that the flight was very similar to lion air. >> journal has a tick tok on this today because i mean the crash was sunday, 72 hours pass and this decision came in a hurry after they got that flight path information. >> yeah. look, this is a very tough story. we're beginning to get our first notes about the actual number impact for boeing. there's a very tough piece by jp morgan about potential cash flow impact the one thing you never want to see, airline compensation, how much they're going to owe the airlines for what happened that's going to hurt their gross margins down the road. as you develop these planes, each one costs a little less to make they

faa says the review shows no systemic performance issues.resident trump spoke with boeing's ceo, got assurances aircraft was safe. other countries have different point of view. senator ted cruz, chairman on the senate subcommittee on aviation and space he is suggesting grounding the 737 max model in the u.s. he will hold hearings on the model's safety. a hearing has not yet been set for those hearings. in the most recent tragedy as we know, a airline spokesperson told the news agency that the pilot of that ethiopian air reported flight control problems before the crash. so the implication there was something wrong with the plane. in other words it wasn't an outside disturbance. we know sometimes bird can fly into the turbines, that is not what happened in this case. you said this detail is important, the company sending black boxes from the crashed flight rather to europe, not to the u.s. where the plane was built to be analyzed. separately norwegian airline seeking compensation from boeing. it says there are lost revenue. extra costs after

or being suppressed by faa's superior.n investigation that concleuned thaconcludedthaboing thaboing -- boeing had too much autonomy but nothing seems to have been done. all this through the development of 737 max and course of accident phase. >> mr. roman, i was trying to catch up and read a bunch of articles today, i read an article that said boeing 737 flight simulations gave pilots 40 seconds to override a malfunction system to me that sounds like no time. since you are the professional, i was wondering what you know about the sim lake simulation, s that a lot or little time. >> the specifics concerning the assimilation have not been provided, during the take off thing. if you have an aircraft pitching downward, and unresponsive to pilot's inputs, even if they them ai -- temporarily discouldt neck the design, and pitch goes down against in a steeper configuration because america md software had a reset. without pilot knowledge, you don't have a lot of time to make that correction. 40 seconds to one minute sounds about w

one fix is a software update the faa is testing. that update was created following the october crash but has yet to be put into planes. the faa administrator says he's confident the update will be dealing with a stall function. but they are not saying that is the cause of the crash. the 737 represents about 30% of boeing's revenue. the company will be keenly interested in fixing this issue. so far incidentally only one airline says they will give the bill to boeing. region air says they have 18 planes flying. they say the company will be asking for compensation since they are barred from using the planes. liz: norwegian airlines is demanding boeing compensate it. he was needed to make split-second decisions about air traffic command and control. why did it take the president to act? >> that is a question that everybody wants an answer to because, you know, as of last night, faa and boeing were both saying things were fine, they weren't going to change their strategy unless they had updated information. we don't know what that update

the faa does not have the funding and resources to do this.en away over the years and they have been told by congress to delegate as much as possible unless there is some safety reasons why not to. in other words, the onus is on those with a safety concern otherwise it gets delegated to the industry itself, in this case boeing. briefly, tell us what you found that may have been wrong with boeing thinking this system was safe if indeed it isn't safe? the document that assessed the system safety, we identified, sources within the faa people who worked on it identified three shortcomings. there was an inaccurate limits stated in the original document about how much the system could move the horizontal tail. that limit was quadrupled later on during flight tests but it looks like it was not communicated to the safety analysis tea m communicated to the safety analysis team at the faa. also perhaps even more importantly, the analysis that was done by boeing did not take account of the fact that the system would reset itself every time, when forced i

people have to remember the faa does not build aircraft. the faa certifies aircraft they don't build cars or trains. they put up safety standards, certification standards that the manufacturers have to meet folks have to understand that. i'm not really sure people on the hill do. >> phil, what are you hope iingo learn? >> i just hope -- sorry, go ahead. >> phil lebeau, that was to you. >> sure. well, i want to echo what he was saying, in that i think we all want to hear more about how the faa tries to ensure, as much as possible, that there is stringent oversight of boeing engineers, when they're doing self certification and i think that's the concern that everybody has, is that over time as someone with the faa is working with someone from boeing, maybe over five, six, seven years, you get to know that person. and if joe at boeing says trust us, the data matches up, it's not that they're lying, it's just that perhaps that the faa administrator or someone with the faa may not be as stringent as they should be in terms of double-checking wha