i'm joined now by fabien and schmidt from davey science have in the german government is said to discuss tightening measures across the country today from a scientific point of view do we need stricter measures. we do need strict measures and the point in germany is right now the measures in the different states of germany are not the same so for example in berlin up to now are still gatherings of up to 10 people are allowed in as a german states gatherings of up to 3 people no 10 people is definitely too much and people should really stay was in their families was in the communities in which they live on their in their households basically and if they go out to exercise or do do shopping maybe they should do that alone or just in groups of 2 and i think we're going to see something along those lines and when will it be possible to say that the measures taken so far have achieved anything. we're right now at a point where the. decisions that are going to be made today are probably going to be valid for about 3 weeks now i think that will probably take as long as that in order to even est

you at the white house with the press crew ask a question over the weekend was your impression and fabien been there what's your impression as to how the president is handling this and what that daily briefing is like. well larry it's rather bizarre i have to tell you 1st of all are you understand there has not been a white house briefing by the press secretary since march leben 29th in over a year and now suddenly the briefings have come back and the vice president is in charge of the task force so the announce the briefings every day this is going to be a briefing led by the vice president on the latest in the fight against the coronavirus and yet every day it's the president. and takes the podium and gives his own introduction and his own should be a will a lot of it just kind of rambling 1st and then he introduces other people and then they ask questions the problem is there's a lot of talk but a lot of it doesn't add up i mean the president keeps bait keeps talking about the fact we're working on a vaccine and so keep hope alive but the vaccine the health officials tell us won't be r