telling us that is that the protests have been organized quite spontaneously through tools like facebook messenger and what this means is that people receiving chain messages in their personal facebook inbox from people they know when people they don't know are in these messages contain instructions on where to go or to rally and we've got one of these messages to show you this was sent to us by an activist in algeria on the ground he's a screenshot of one of the messages to organize the protests which began a week ago as i said it's giving instructions the dice in the time in the location of where they're in this case the twenty second of february at nine am and it says here we are hoping to bring forty million people to the streets it says avoid bringing flags that are not the algerian flag and bring musical instruments and whistles and so it can be happy and joyful don't use violence don't engage with security officers let's let's be peaceful and what else sources have. been saying there is that it's not quite sure who's behind these messages they choosing to stay fairly anonymous but as i said

messages that we send to each other messages on his platforms that he owns like whatsapp and facebook messenger and instagram's directly i think a lot of people still don't realize that those three verrall one company exactly they're all by by facebook and so he is he wants us to use these platforms to communicate with each other and so he wants to streamline them in a way so if you were to use what's up to message me and i for some reason have what's up but i had facebook messenger within those messages would get through and so this is kind of way he's going he wants to capitalize on the growing private message at markets and so what has prompted this change well basically it's it's been it's been a rough couple of years facebook it's had multiple scandals and one of them if course is the cambridge analytical scandal web by the private firm eighty seven million uses ended up in the hands of political consulting firm and this goes beyond privacy we've had things like political propaganda hate speech abuse all of these things have found a harm on facebook so it's part of a case of using this as

of this is in preparation for zuckerberg's plan to merge the messaging infrastructure behind facebook messengerpp and instagram. very foreboding. mistakes that facebook easily make? gennie: the impending apocalypse of whatsamessenger. two large mistakes are exactly how encryption is presented to users and whether or not backups are encrypted. right now, facebook messenger has an encryption option, but it is not on by default. it is called secret messaging. that can be confusing to users. defaults are king so it is unclear if a lot of users will take advantage. emily: what about whatsapp? those messages are encrypted supposedly. can we trust that? gennie: they are encrypted end to end, but a big chink in the armor is these listing feature called automatic backups. you might get a question when you first create whatsapp asking you how often do you want to backup messages? what that does is it stores an unencrypted copy of your messages on apple's or google's servers, depending on your phone. for users that rely on end to end encryption, that undermines the protection. those messages are available

the head of facebook, he has been the head of instagram, the head of messenger, the head of whatsapp s promoted today given daniels' departure. >> simo is one of the fastest rising people at facebook. she was in charge of the facebook app before fidji and moving to whatsapp is something that will give him maybe a little more direct control over a product that still has so much building to do. maybe facebook, the main app, is more of a legacy product and facebook is moving toward this encrypted legacy future. adam has been in his role for a few months and has really tried to make a similar path to what the founders wanted, but he will have to deal with this integration over the next few years and that will be a very difficult debate. how much does he want to represent himself as a facebook, inc. person? it will be an interesting future for these people. emily: how concerned are you about the departures as mark zuckerberg is making a very pointed turn in the direction toward privacy after emphasizing openness and sharing for 15 years? >> it is a big change, and any time you see a major

fromsk from peering in -- peering in two whatsapp and facebook messenger. w.greenfield joins us thompson, whonick had an extensive q&a with mark zuckerberg right after he published the piece. uckerberg on facebook's future and what scares him most." sarah, walk us through the reaction to this stunning post from mark zuckerberg. sarah: some critics are calling it a victory after all this criticism that zuckerberg has faced over privacy. now he says it's really important. but the difference is really going to be in what we see facebook do with this. it doesn't change the fact their advertising business is built on personal user data. not a lot changes about how facebook's business works. he didn't talk about the advertising implications in his post the other day. you've been very bullish on facebook. he says the newsfeed will remain, but this will make ad targeting harder. does that concern you? rich: it's honestly absurd. what is facebook right now? you spend a lot of time browsing for newsfeeds, in groups. the one thing you don't do a lot of, especially in t

the messaging platforms that facebook are in so the platforms like what's up instagram and facebook messenger like you said it wants to make those platforms compatible with each other so if i chat to you on facebook messenger and you reply on whatsapp you know that they can sort of talk to each other and it wants to add a layer of security by making the messages since on these platforms encrypted so that means only able to be read by the person they're intended for and that means facebook itself can't get its hands on those messages. and it wants to copy something that's not doing whereby messages delayed after a certain period of time and basically the messaging market is growing a lot at the moment it's growing faster than facebook's traditional business of being a social network so it's trying to tap into that as well and be more privacy for privacy friendly but that's not something facebook is really known for is it facebook's at a pretty shocking two years i mean we've had the cambridge analytical scandal where the daughter of some eighty seven million users ended up in the hands of a po

other on the messaging services that facebook owns so platforms like whatsapp facebook and facebook messenger and instagram and he wants to make those compatible with each other as you say sorry if you write to me on whatsapp i'd be able to write back to you on facebook and messenger and he wants to add a layer of security to these as well by making what we say the messages encrypted and that basically means are in the eyeball to be read by the person they're intended for so facebook wouldn't be out to get its hands on those messages and it wants to copy something that snapshot is doing way of by the messages would also delete after a certain period of time and i guess facebook's tapping into what is a growing messaging mock it because it's traditional business being a social network isn't growing as fast as the messaging market so this is kind of part of the reason why he's doing so facebook is trying to meet more privacy fendi but in the past facebook and privacy haven't privacy hasn't made a strong suit of facebook facebook's had a pretty shocking time of it in the last little while when i

basically they've told us that these protests began quite spontaneously through tools like facebook messenger and basically what this means is that people were receiving chain messages from people they knew and people they didn't know in their facebook in boxes and these messages contained instructions on where to go or wish to gather and we've got one of these to show you this is a screen shot sent to us by an activist in algeria like i said it's giving instructions the diet at the time the location of where to gather in this case it's the twenty second of february at nine am in the jury in capital the message goes on to say we're hoping fourteen million people will hit the streets and it says avoid bringing flags that are not the algerian flag instead bring musical instruments and whistles so it can be a happy and joyful march don't use violence don't engage with security offices less it's be peaceful and what also says of also told us is that it's not quite clear. roach these messages they're choosing to stay anonymous but what is clear is that they have been spreading on social media a me

began last week of course these are some of the pictures that were spreading on tools like facebook messenger a picture of the president with a big red cross series face saying no to a fifth term we're calling for peaceful demonstrations in all of algeria's forty eight states on the twenty second of february on twitter. on twitter this message says no to a fifth term one of the b. hashtags in the algerian twitter is this one to a fifth term and people writing messages to the president saying we're not going to allow you to manipulate us so really interesting to see what people are saying in algeria how they're organizing this person saying we're not going to allow ourselves to be manipulated basically and that's something that a lot of people are putting out there and they're obviously getting a lot of traction but falling a bit short of the forty million that you mentioned in that coup that right i mean the protests have been going for a week they are gaining in strength but it doesn't seem likely that they'll get that many people out gerri great thank you very much for coming in. to turkey

think mark zuckerberg is planning to merge the infrastructure behind whatsapp, instagram, and facebook messenger. do you think this is an isolated incident or is it a symptom of a larger issue at play? david: facebook has said so little about what actually happens, we are left to guessing. one of the strangest things was that it was not just facebook, but instagram, parts of whatsapp, even oculus. that is extremely surprising to me, that they should have an architecture that, at the moment, would allow them to somehow be so connected that they could be simultaneously impaired. it does underscore the risks of making it all one big integrated system, which clearly is happening. emily: coming up, our exclusive and wide-ranging conversation with former u.k. prime minister tony blair, discussing the role of big tech on the global stage. and if you like bloomberg news, check us out on the radio. can listen on the bloomberg app, bloomberg.com, and, in the u.s., sirius xm. this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: this week, i caught up with the former u.k. prime minister, tony blair, about the role of tech in govern

some people weren't able to reach facebook's website and apps, including facebook messenger, instagramd whatsapp. facebook did not say how many users were affected or why the outage was so long. (grant) still ahead... the fallout from the college admissions scandal continues. after the break-- lynettle mathews joins us live in studio to talk about her college counseling business... have when they pay for these services to assist them with getting into schools. (grant) back to our breaking news... a rough commute if you're traveling to the north bay tonight. all but one lane on westbound 5-80 is closed right before the richmond- san rafael bridge-- because of a gravel spill. this is a live picture-- and you can see just a few cars driving through. the c-h-p says 200 yards of pebbles spilled on the road-- and right now they are trying to find out who is responsible. here's a look at traffic in the area.. allow extra time if you are heading in that tonight. we will have updates on our (grant) a big story we continue to follow tonight... the college admissions scandal involving dozens of w

cox's position, but he is sort of elevating the heads of each of these products, whatsapp, facebook, messengerand instagram. tell us about chris daniels. he is leaving too. sarah: chris daniels was formerly head of internet.org, which was facebook's -- zuckerberg's personal project to try to get more people on the internet. it's sort of connected to whatsapp in that it was very international, but running a messaging product is a very different ordeal. we don't know exactly why he left, but it is a very difficult time for whatsapp right now. because they're facing all of this scrutiny from governments around the world. there have been whatsapp lynchings in india, all of this misinformation that has spread on whatsapp that is encrypted, so facebook cannot do much about it except change its rules. that would be a very difficult job to do. emily: david kirkpatrick is joining us now from new york. david, you wrote the book on facebook. i'm sure you interviewed chris cox several times in that process. what do you make that he is now leaving? david: i agree with everything sarah has said about his ce

that includes whats app, instagram direct and facebook messenger. some lawmakers worry that integrating services would give facebook too close a look at the private information and habits of users. s. zuckerberg argues that facebook's various platforms will be able to keep their accounts separate after the services are integrated - if customers want that. . (pam) uber should not face criminal charges in a death caused by one of its self- driving vehicles... however, the uber operator may not walk away without charges ... that's what an arizona prosecutor is saying .. the accident happened last year, when an self- driving s-u-v that uber was testing, hit a woman crossing the street at night. officials say, additional evidence -- and dash cam video of the incident .. does not show criminal liability for uber. but they say, the video does appear to show the vehicle's test driver ... take her eyes off the road just before the collision. she may face criminal charges in the case.uber has since stopped all autonomous vehicle operations. (catherine) busines

facebook updates, they couldn't post instagram photos, instagram obviously owned by facebook, facebook messenger i think, found trouble using whatsapp, also owned by facebook. so a huge problem, and it went on until about six o'clock this morning, i certainly noticed this morning it was working again. not the longest outage in facebook‘s history, it was down for about a day back in 2008, but then it was 100 million or so people on it, these days nearly 2.5 billion people around the world use these services. they are the sort of backbone of internet use for a lot of people. so it did have a big effect. they've said very little about it, interestingly. i'vejust looked, it is 18 hours since they said we are focused on working to resolve the issue as soon as possible, but can confirm the issue is not related to a hacking attack. that ironically was posted on twitter. nothing since. so not very good at using social media to update the world, when it seems to be coming toa the world, when it seems to be coming to a close. we shall see if anything else emerges, thank you now. the special olympics start

meantime, facebook, instagram, and facebook messenger experienced outages around the globe on wednesdayreleasing a statement saying, we are aware that some people are having trouble accessing the facebook family of apps. we are working to resolve the issue. coming up, we are going to break down senator warren's ambitious plan as she campaigns for president, taking aim at google, facebook, apple, and amazon. sxsw, thaton a time, is where it all went down. this was a huge tech festival but now it is a place where ambitious politicians come together. we will discuss. this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: longtime tech and music festival sxsw turned into a campaign stop for presidential 2020 candidates. elizabeth warren promised legislation that could break up facebook, google, and amazon. senator warren says that they have too much power. she declaresent, that she wants to make antitrust cool again. what would a big tech breakup look like? what, i am dying to think -- to know what you think about the proposal. i really like what elizabeth warren is doing. me andst reached out to another associates b

meantime, users of facebook as well as facebook messenger experienced outages around the globe on wednesday. a facebook person released this statement. we are aware that some people are having trouble accessing the facebook family of apps. we are working to resolve the issue. as soon as possible. coming up, breaking up big tech. we are going to break down senator warren's ambitious plan as she campaigns for president, taking aim at the power of google, facebook, apple, and amazon. i want to hear what roger mcnamee has to say about that. and once upon a time, sxsw, that is where it all went down. this was a huge tech festival but now it is a place where ambitious politicians come together. we will discuss. this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: longtime tech and music festival sxsw turned into a campaign stop for presidential 2020 candidates. elizabeth warren promised legislation that could break up facebook, google, and amazon. senator warren says big tech companies have too much power. at another event, she declares that she wants to make antitrust cool again. a clear swipe at the same company. what

using i message or snapchat if you are trying to reach someone younger, but you're not using facebook messenger. someone overseas is using whatsapp for sure. notbook messenger has caught on as the principal way to communicate, nor has direct messaging in instagram. it's a rapidly growing part of facebook, that for mark zuckerberg and facebook, this is trying to reclaim messaging. they want to dominate messaging and combine it with what they already do with instagram stories, facebook stories, whatsapp stories. they want to capture more of your daily time spent. the one big place they are missing is messaging. i think that is a big opportunity, not just to drive their content business over time, but to drive the commerce business, which is in the early stages but i think they are taking very seriously on how to between marketing and commerce. emily: net, mark zuckerberg says he sees private messaging fastest.he it is unclear whether he meant on facebook platform or other platforms. this raises a lot of questions. did he answer those questions when you spoke with him? nick: he answered some of th

apart from facebook itself, messenger and instagram have also been disrupted.ch began at around 16 hundred hours gmt. here's dave lee. i think we can comfortably say now that this is the most severe outage that this is the most severe outage that facebook has had in its history. the last time that facebook has been down for this long, we are 110w has been down for this long, we are now over five hours into this issue, the last time it had a problem as bad as that was back in 2008. of course, the site was a most different type of place then, it only had around 150 million users, compared to around two point viability and it has now. as you mentioned, this is affecting not only be facebook up, but what's up, instagram, even the virtual reality platform, oculus rift, that has been suffering from some disruption as well. facebook hasn't said what the cause is, although it did rule out a particular type as cyber—attack, known as a distributed denial—of—service attack that is when they pilot whale website. facebook says that is not what has happened to them does make

>> once you sort of bring this under one platform so we sort of instagram and facebook messenger, youessaging. not on facebook messaging and as that grows and i'm not there i need to join that platform so i don't necessarily think it's trying to necessarily move that direction but i think if i'm thinking about the way facebook looks at this is we'd rather see those sort of iphone messaging users sort of migrate to a platform that maybe they're not necessarily inclined to but the friends are there and globally it makes it very economical to do, as well. >> we'll lever it there. thank you both very much. >> pleasure. >>> we have a news alert on tesla. seema mody tracking that story. >> tesla entering an agreement with lenders in china for $2.42 billion to build a giga factory in shanghai. now china is seen as an untapped growth opportunity for tesla which ceo elon musk did reference in the company's latest earnings call back in january seeing shares up fractionally after hours back to you. >> all right thank you. >>> movie star, rapper, entrepreneur ice cube is on our radar today becaus

facebook, instagram, messenger and what's app have been spotty all day. facebook tweeted it is working to resolve the issue and it was not the result of a hack. >>> nine of the accused parents in the alleged college mission scam from the bay area. today i caught up with one of the parents who wasn't too happy to see us. >>> who would steal a 400-pound safe from a bay area church, and how? >>> what a catch. the raiders introduced their new start. . >>> still 7 minutes away from sunset and it was sunny all day long. can we keep a weather dry winning streak going? beautiful view of the golden gate pre-sunset. i will have the forecast which includes 70s, coming up. ♪ ooh woo, i'm a rebel just for kicks, now ♪ ♪ i been feeling it since 1966, now ♪ ♪ might be over now, but i feel it still ♪ ♪ ooh woo, i'm a rebel just for kicks, now ♪ ♪ ooh woo, i'm a rebel just for kicks, now ♪ ♪ might be over now, but i feel it still ♪ ♪ might've had your fill, but you feel it still, ooh woo ♪ . >>> actress lori loughlin out on $1 million bond tonight, one of 50 people charged

the senator's widow, cindy mccain, posting an attack from someone on facebook messenger. a brutal attack on her husband. mrs. mccain tweeting sarcast sarcastical sarcastically. i want you to see how kind and loving a stranger can be. we're blurring the worst expletive from that message. but what's left is pretty disgusting. look at your screen. it's just as difficult to listen to as it is for me to read it. i wish we didn't have to talk about this kind of thing. but mrs. mccain is right. this kind of hatred needs to be called out openly. the message, this is a quote -- your husband was a traitorous piece of warmongering shit. and i'm glad he's dead. hope your mrs. piggy-looking daughter chokes to death on the next burger she stuffs down her fat neck, too, c-word. disgusting. pure hatred, for a man and for his family. so, let me just take this opportunity right now, to apologize to the mccain family. to send support to mrs. mccain and to meghan mccain and to their entire family. they should not have to deal with this. we don't know fanything about te woman who posted that.

instagram and facebook messenger and what's app also went dark. a spokesperson said the outage started when the company made configuration changes to its servers. facebook is not saying how many users were affected. this was the longer outage in facebook and instagram history. >>> you don't need to be on facebook. you need to be outside enjoying the sunshine. why be on your computer when you could be outside. >> i didn't mind the outage. i could do something else. >> healthy break. >> and it is nice. and we have beautiful weather to facebook and tweet about and instagram today. here is a look outside as you head out for dinner or making your way home. it is -- look at this view from belevedere toward san francisco. the seven-day forecast has come up at the bottom of the screen. come on over and check it out as we take a look outside in san jose near the sap center. and our temperatures have been warmer today. compared to the way it has been, finally we made it up to 65 degrees. but it will be a chilly night. sheer a look at our temperature trend ov

point what you're talking about, the blog post says it has three different platforms, whatsapp, facebook messengernstagram. right now if you want to message any friend on the platform you have to use each individual platform. what they are working on and they did say they are getting outside counsel, outside experts to join all three platforms together so that you can communicate amongst all them. this is just for the messaging app. they're working trying to improve their privacy standards, the way they're viewed. a great quote in the post moments ago saying "i understand many people don't think facebook can or would even want to build this kind of privacy-focused platform because frankly we don't currently have a strong reputation for building privacy protective services and we've historically focused on tools for more open sharing but we repeatedly shown we can evolve ♪ " so the priority these communications will be encrypted. so you don't have to worry about pictures when you were younger haunting you in the future and securing data and safety. let's not forget later on this year they will be r

and so i left facebook and i left instagram and i left facebook messenger i wasn't on whatsapp, so i to leave that. but i just decided to disassociate myself from the company. and it's just one of the wonderful things that you can do in a capitalist system, is you can make a decision on which businesses you want to patronize. and i made that decision with regard to facebook >> and i guess, just because we have been having such a bigger, broader conversation and debate about social media and about these issues around privacy, why twitter would still be a company you would patronize. what are they getting right? >> look, twitter is screwed up in its own ways. it has a lot of work to do but my judgment was that facebook has just never stopped having these endless cycles of, you know, violating privacy or not owning up to what's going on, you know, deflecting and lying. on and on, for many years. and then apologizing and then the cycle starts again and when you get to something like helping to distort, you know, wittingly or unwittingly, helping to distort a national election, not only h

cindy says she received one from facebook messenger, a note laced with obscenities, quote, your husband was a traitor's piece of warmongering s-word. the woman writes. i'm glad he is dead. i hope your piggy looking daughter chokes on a burger down her fat neck, too, she puts another vial word i won't repeat. cindy mccain lashed out on twitter from the executive time in the white house, she took aim to a man that stood up in a prison. he blamed senior mccain and falsely claimed he graduated last in indianapolis. he graduated sixth from last, the senator had to make fun of for himself. he said he caused the obama repeal to fail. as we point out, mccain wasn't the only republican to fame. today as we note, the president continued to comment on mccain. >> i'm very unhappy that he didn't repeal and replace obamacare as you know. he campaigned on repealing and replacing obamacare for years. then he got to a vote and he said thumbs down. ourp country would have saved a trillion dollars and we would have had great healthcare. so he campaigned. he told us hours before that he was going to repeop

whatsapp, instagram and mobile phone app messenger — all owned by facebook — have also been disruptedlve the issue. let's now speak to ingrid lunden from techcrunch. what's lunden from techcrunch. your reading into this? it been what's your reading into this? it's been the most severe outage in its history. are you think it is interesting, because they haven't actually said what it was that because the outage, which has left a lot of people guessing. they think it's a routing issue or something, but that is led a lot of people to talk about what it means to have one company owning quite so many communications networks that are as popular as the ones that have been affected by this. 0bviously, that has been a big issue in the political sphere. elizabeth warren, who is running for president, has been talking about breaking up the big tech companies. this all plays m, big tech companies. this all plays in, and facebook has been looking to unify the backends of these various apps together. this is a demonstration of why it should not be allowed to do that. facebook has been at pains to sa

senator mccain's widow, cindy, posted one such comment she says she received from a woman on facebook messengerwe're sanitizing.

noticed, facebook is suffering partial outages affecting users worldwide, notjust the main facebook but it's messengerhatsapp have all been disrupted. 0ur technology reported dave lee gave me the latest. the last time facebook has been down for this long, we are now more than five hours into this issue, it was back in 2008. of course, the site was a much different type of place back then. you had around 150 million users, compared to the 2.5 billion that it has now. as you mentioned, this is affecting not just has now. as you mentioned, this is affecting notjust facebook but also whatsapp, also instagram, i am also hearing that the virtual reality platform facebook runs has also been suffering from some disruption as well. facebook is not said what the cause is, however they did rule out a particular kind of cyber attack, what is known as a distributed denial of service attack. facebook has said that is not what has happened to them, however, i do think it is important to notice in that statement they did not rule out a cyber attack of any other kind, but i guess they are still gathering what has happ

senator mccain's widow, cindy, posted one such comment she says she received from a woman on facebook messenger. it's a note laced with obscenities which we're sanitizing. "your husband was a traitorous peace of war-mongering s word," the woman writes. "and i'm glad he's dead. hope your miss piggy-looking daughter chokes to death on the next burger she stuffs down her fat neck too." she concludes with another vile word i'm not going to repeat. cindy mccain posted that after the president lashed out over the weekend on twitter of course from the comfort of the executive -- of executive time at the white house. he took aim at a man who stood up to six years of torture in a north vietnamese prison. he blamed senator mccain for sparking the russia investigation and falsely claimed that he graduated last at annapolis. just keeping them honest, he graduated sixth from last. something the senator himself had the confidence to point out and make fun of himself for. the president also attacked mccain for casting a vote against repealing obamacare saying he caused the repeal to fail. we should point out

apart from facebook itself, messenger and instagram have also been disrupted.sing the problem. a second k—pop star has quit the music business as part of a growing industry sex scandal. jung joon—young has admitted to secretly filming himself having sex with women and sharing the footage. it comes a day after fellow star seungri quit the industry after being charged with sex bribery. the usjoined a growing list of nations in grounding the boeing 737 max 8. the announcement was made by president trump who said it was necessary to answer questions after a second such plane crashed this weekend. the ethiopian airlines plane went down minutes after take—off, killing all 157 people on board. the bbc‘s nick bryant reports. today the crash site in ethiopia became a place of multinational mourning. passengers and crew from 35 countries were killed when the plane plunged into this field on sunday, just six minutes after take—off. north america was one of the few places that the boeing 737 max aircraft was still allowed to fly. the aviation authority here had decided not

facebook, instagram, and messenger experiencing troubling reports. cebook says it is investigating. they may also refund to advertisers. if you are still out, there is a battle of the charts. let's go head to head and compete. hearts and maybe even our souls. coming up next, this is bloomberg. bloomberg. it is that time of the day for the battle of the charts. >> they are about to pit their best charts against one another. >> you can access the charts, just go to the bloomberg terminal. trying to play the sympathy card saying she has lost four times in a row. chart is very exciting. the hong kong dollar, the aggregate balance. dollarough the hong kong has touched, local authorities have intervened to support the currency. is interventions so far, starting from last year, it has failed to push the dollar away. liquidity has remained flush. the question is how much more money do the local authorities have to spend to really push things up? >> how do you get to that? >> the blue bars are the balance. the aggregate balance stands at about $70 billion. it

users and his team is now developing technology to make messaging on whatsapp, instagram and facebook messengersecure so they can rely on them rather than the public facebook feed for communication. the goals he says include making sure no one, not even facebook can see your messages. messages that can disappear after a certain amount of time and making sure any data that is kept is secure. >> but this is raising a lot of eyebrows out there because facebook doesn't have the best track record when it comes to protecting their users' data. >> zuckerberg even said that. he said we may not be known for privacy right now, but he says we do have a reputation for building sites that people want and he says right now what people want is privacy so facebook is going to deliver that. >> all right, i'm sure he knows better than i do and we do. >> seems like it. >>> turning now to the new video of that amazon cargo plane crash in texas. this surveillance footage from a nearby jail showing the jet plummeting before it hit a bay near houston, unfortunately killing all three on board. the recently recovered f

it is not just facebook, it is instagram, whatsapp, the facebook messenger. ming much more than facebook the app. stuart: we're looking at facebook the stock, looking at finances, looking at all the bad pr and you're saying there is one way, two-ways that they could get hurt and that is people stop using facebook. that is not happening. >> right. stuart: number two, declining, declining interest by advertisers? >> right. because that is how facebook makes their money. if advertisers pull back, you will periodically see reports where brands are concerned about brand safety. it is happening to google and youtube right now, but that tends to be temporary. advertisers will follow the people. if consumer attention is there the advertising dollars will almost always follow that at least in the long term. i'm having a hard time believing advertisers will pull back until or unless consumers pull back from the usage of the apps. stuart: facebook has instagram. that is ruling the roost. >> we have statistics showing instagram taking off like crazy. people say i don't li

facebook, instagram and messenger are having problems. uble include logging in, posting photos and sharing comments. facebook is investigating an offer refunds to advertisers. there's and offering refunds to at -- facebook is investigating and offering refunds to advertisers. atwill have a new guests 8:40 a.m. hong kong, 11:40 sydney. looking at the market open in japan and south korea. some cheer likely ahead, the nikkei 225 could recover most of wednesday's losses. and the fed looking at a policy meeting. the former r.b.i. governor says boj and ecb have little ammunition left. nissan and mitsubishi motors, several executives had for the exit, keeping an eye on -- head for the exits. looking at this sony acquisition. also discounting disparities at a china affiliate that could book a ¥12 billion charge. 2018 earnings, after the market close, and peace talks could move today as south korea is not the immediate [indiscernible] looking at korean electric battery makers like lg chem as well as they have been from a giant chinese government ne

what's app, the facebook messenger, both already have a lost e lot of end-to-end encryption and privacy into them already. connell: but they have added that over the years. >> yeah, they have. they have. what zuckerberg is really promising is we will integrate these and maybe make some very large bulk platform for end-to-end encrypted messaging which would be a great thing. we talk about the idea facebook is in some people's minds, trying dope the chinese company we chat, it's becoming this one place, one size fits all where you go to in theory what's app and you can have your messaging which is end-to-end encrypted, private messaging, you can have social media feeds coming in and at some point, you can have mobile payment which is huge for we chat in china. but if you do that, how do you separate them all, because if it is private, and it is one app, you can target people. you are saying you are doing that on the outside somehow? >> one of the challenges here is facebook is such an enormous entity, such a beast, there are a lot of different separate business units and you heard elizabe

facebook all being concentrated in one place, but also the difficulties of managing that. when you have these different services get more and more integrated. you have whatsapp, oculus, messenger, instagram, facebook itself. yesterday, they were all down, not to mention the added managers. -- ad managers. they were telling me they could not see their campaigns and how they were running. it gave them the sense of is there really an alternative? showing there just map of the outage there as of new today and facebook has said it has resolved the issues. there are a few hundred reports of people without service. but if you look at that map yesterday, it was red all over. this as mark zuckerberg is planning to merge the infrastructure behind whatsapp, instagram, and messenger. is this just an isolated incident or is it a symptom of a larger issue at play? facebook has said so little about what actually happened but we are left to guessing. one of the strangest things was that it was not just facebook, but instagram, parts of whatsapp, even oculus. that is extremely surprising to me, that they should have an architecture that would come at the moment, allow them all to somehow be so