but what does fadell make of him?ee the ev revolution that we're having. you need these personalities that people can really resonate with. that was tony fadell, who is admittedly a bit of a character himself, and he's not the only one who believes that big tech can clean up. adrienne murray's been finding out more in denmark. each time we upload a selfie, chat online or stream a video, we're transmitting data to and from a server, and all those files we store virtually in the cloud, well, there's a physical backbone, keeping it all running smoothly — a datacentre. this hyperscale facility on the outskirts of 0dense in denmark is among a growing number found in the cooler nordic countries. and here, how our internet use is actually helping to warm people's homes. this is one of our servers. and if you feel underneath it's quite... it's really hot. datacentres are all over europe, providing services for all our applications, facebook, instagram, whatsapp, messenger, etc. it is pictures, videos, stories, all of that. al

so fadell is backing virtual collaboration, though the metaverse at large? people are trying to trap us in these kinds of headsets. it's a place where you're going to go socialise, where we're going to dance. we're all going to turn into cartoon characters. we'll never even see each other�*s eyes. is that a problem we really need to solve? i don't think so. lets park zuckerberg's vision for a moment then and ask tony instead about apple's biggest visionary. steve moved the whole smartphone industry. yes, i'd like to order 4,000 lattes to go please. no, just kidding! the thing about steve was, he never projected himself as a real expert of any one thing. so there was some humility there — it wasn't just about, "i know everything and i'm right," all the time? 0h, absolutely not. he had strong opinions but sometimes they were weakly held if we brought in data or other things to show him that there was a different way. what a send—off to the ipod, and some great ideas from tony there, but that's all we have got time for in the short version of the programme. the

but for his part, tony fadell heads a fund that has made dozens of climate investments. world. virtual reality — discuss. you can make shoes, furniture, homes, what have you. it is the first way to truly break the 2d barrier to 3d. so tony fadell is backing a virtual collaboration, although the metaverse at large doesn't quite have him commenced. some people are trying to trap us in these kinds of headsets. it is a place you are going to go socialise, where we are going to dance. we are all going to dance. we are all going to dance. we are all going to turn into cartoon characters. we will never even see each other�*s eyes. is that a problem we really need your soul? i don't think so.- soul? i don't think so. lets park zuckerberg's - soul? i don't think so. lets park zuckerberg's vision i soul? i don't think so. lets park zuckerberg's vision then, and asked tony instead about apple's biggest visionary. steve moved the whole smartphone industry. i would like to order 4000 mate to go please, sorry, joking! the thing about steve, he never projected himself as a real expert

so fadell is backing virtual collaboration, though the metaverse at large?he thing about steve was he never projected himself as a real expert of any one thing. so there was humility there, it wasn't just about, "i know everything and i'm right," all the time? oh, absolutely not. he had strong opinions but sometimes they were weakly held if brought in data or other things to show him that there was a different way. what a send—off to the ipod, and some great ideas from tony there, but that's all we have got time for in the short version of the programme. the full—length show can be found on iplayer, and we'll be back the same time next week. thanks for watching, bye—bye. good morning, welcome to breakfast with rogerjohnson and luxmy gopal. our headlines today... holidaymakers warned to expect more travel disruption, with airlines set to announce a new wave of summer flight cancellations in the coming days. the foreign office says it's working with the ukrainian government to secure the release of two british men, reported by russian state media to have been

so fadell is backing virtual collaboration, though the metaverse at large? apple's biggest visionary. steve moved the whole smartphone industry. yes, i would like to order 4000 lattes to go please. no, just kidding! the thing about steve was he never projected himself as a real expert of any one thing. so there was humility there, it wasn't just about, "i know everything and i'm right," all the time? oh, absolutely not. he had strong opinions but sometimes they were weakly held if brought in data or other things to show him that there was a different way. what a send—off to the ipod, and some great ideas from tony there, but that's all we have got time for in the short version of the programme. the full—length show can be found on iplayer, and we'll be back the same time next week. thanks for watching, bye—bye. slightly lighter winds it might feel a touch warmer out there. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. dame deborah's legacy — the nhs says it's seen ten times as many people search online for bo