soso fadli z zon was -- amy: and he was a sure middle in or.t tim >> yes.ut now it is his right hand man fadli zon appearing with trump at trump tower in the initial stages of launching the campaign, and who is now one of the main supporters of this movement which has as its final goal, the toppling of indonesia's democratically elected president. and among the generals -- this is a piece i have been working on and maybe by the t time this heirs, it will have been released -- that have been complicit in one degree or another in this movement, boro,de generall prov another r one that is still undr indictment for her crimes, a general who is p probably the commander of the indonesian armed forces. amy: we wiwill be back with alln nairn in 30 seconds. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we continue our conversation with investigative journalist allan nairn, who has just published a shocking expose at the intercept revealing backers of donald trump in indonesia have joined army officers and a