also joining us is fahima mahomet who's a broadcaster and executive coach, joins us from london. welcome to you both, i'll start with you first, anthony hall. the incident as we understand it, the french government banning french athletes for wearing the hijab at the paris olympics. now this what the french sports minister has said an explanation from him, he's in favor of a quote strict regime of secularlism applied rigorously in the field of sport, and my question to you, aside from your reaction to this is, isn't that in itself this stance, a form of discrimination? well, discrimination is a tricky. word, i think the word word that i'd like to see center is secularization and certainly islamophobia, now to me, the quintessen of islamophobia was concocting this 9-11 event to make it seem that radical muslims did it because they hated the freedoms of the west, it was a concocted job, an israeli zionist lead job, 911, so this islam uh that infects people's minds, has been engineered and created. now uh, this word secularization, we're talking about france here, france had somethi