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the good news is, we will see that clear out. 64 degrees in fairfax. it will be warmer today in the upper 70's. we will get a check of the seven-day forecast coming up. >>> a cbs employee is out on bail this morning after being charged with trying to extort millions of dollars from david letterman. he broke the story himself. >> i have or had sex with women who had worked with me on the show. my response to that is, y i have. [laughter] >> the comedian in ball being sexually involved with co- workers. robert halderman has pleaded not guilty to allegations that he demanded $2 million to not reveal the affairs. letterman got married this year. >>> a california judge says he does not need future updates on michael jackson's children after it is found they are adjusting well to their grandmother's care. a court has appointed her the permanent guardian. the state has begun paying a $60,000 per month stipend to care for the children. 63 degrees outside and still ahead, some local science teachers get the lesson of a lifetime. thousands of feet above the grou

the 70 in fairfax. those values are very close to where we should be this time of day in october.ven down south through the carolinas, temperatures have cooled off a bit through the most recent days. this is starting to take on a very customary autumn look. miami, 91 degrees, not uncommon for this time of year. these temperatures will continue. this weather system will continue off to the west. showers and clouds of to the south. we have clear skies that provided this spectacular weather yesterday and today. a cold front is starting to develop over nebraska. high pressure will be in control tomorrow morning and that will give us some sunshine. the cold front looks like it will make a run through this area wednesday morning. if that is where we will have cloud cover and some showers. sunshine will continue tough midday and then we will start picking up the cloudiness tomorrow afternoon ahead of this system. then the cold front will come through with showers wednesday morning. clearing skies wednesday afternoon, but the winds will be west-southwesterly. it will acally get a bit warm

we will see temperatures in the 40's and '50's later, but right now 69 in fairfax. the cooler air is well to the north of us. reagan national is still as 68 degrees. satellite and radar shows high pressure being clearer skies and plows beginning to approach just to that west of us. we will see temperatures a bit cooler, but intown temperatures will eventually fall into the lower 50s. high pressure for the day tomorrow will keep us quite and dry for the overnight. a few scattered high clouds and temperatures in the 40's. for tomorrow morning, sunny and cool. temperatures quickly rebound to the 60's. winds at 5-10 miles an hour, picking up before tomorrow afternoon. temperatures in the lower 70. we have a cold front that will arrive late tuesday and bring increased clouds and a chance for showers. when the conditions was the system moves through by wednesday. temperatures on thursday and friday will be in the upper 60's. the suburbs will see temperatures in the mid 60's, and out in the mountains, the upper 50's by the end of the work week. today it was beautiful, tomo

right now, 70 in fairfax. it a very pleasant weather across the mid-atlantic.much cooler tendersç to the wam -- to the north and much warmer to the south. a bubble of high pressure is writer had and that gave us the incredle day yesterday as well as today. this is moving off to the east and it is not going to so much out these laws to return, but the door is open for the clouds out west to move in and that is associated with a cloud front -- a cold front across the nebraska panhandle right now. tamara, we will still be under the influence of this high pressure centered off the coast. and increasing clouds -- wednesday afternoon. breezy weather by wednesday afternoon. tomorrow, lots of sunshine, 42 to 52 will be the range in the morning. 66 at midday. after the clouds increase. partly sunny and windy in the afrnoon, but pleasant on wednesday. sunny and delightful on thursday. friday, the next cold front and it should clear by sunday. > >> before we begin, let me say two words on behalf of the boy redskins, they won. >> they did win, you're exactly right the ski

montgomery and fairfax and prince george's county and near the chesapeake. look around the neighborhood, down to 39 in manassas in prince william county, now up to 59 degrees where they have a light northwest breeze. it's dry out of the mountains in the upper 40s right now. a few scattered locations in the valleys in southern west virginia. eastern shore near 60. over six hours we've had clear sky, some of the clouds earlier this morning. that did keep the temperatures elevated association there is no frost there but now the clouds are breaking up, getting sunshine there as well as all the way to the atlantic beaches. over 12 hours watching a frontal zone with clusters of showers. could be strong storms from parts of illinois down to arkansas later on. that's on the western side of this dry high pressure over us. the western flow is tapping moisture off the gulf of mexico and moving it all the way into the upper midwest. we go forward, we'll see a warm front coming through, tomorrow and during the evening. as it does come through we might have a sprinkle per

. >>> fairfax county police searching for a man who tried to abduct a teenager. the 15-year-old was walking home when she was approach bid a machine in a white pickup truck. she refused a ride and he apparently grabbed her. he drove off. >>> police are asking for help in locating a suspect in a attempted carjacking that left a officer wounded. the suspects approached an off- duty police officer and they got into a scuffle. the officer was shot in the hand and is expected to be okay. >>> another big story we're following, iran says the nuclear program has peaceful intentions. the u.s. says prove t this week, iran tested missiles capable of reaching u.s. military bases in the middle east, israel and also parts of europe. today, the top negotiator meets with the u.s. and five other countries. >>> something a little lighter on the agenda for the president today p he leaves for denmark today where he ill join the first lady in their quest to get the olympics to chicago. president obama will only be in depend mark for five hours. he will be part of tomorrow's final pre

fairfax county will open up clinics at school after hours and on the weekends starting october 24th. d.c. expects to roll out clinics the week of october 19th. >> vaccine quantity is currently limited but as vaccine quantity increases, our ability to provide a wider net, if you will, improves. >> reporter: health officials across the region expect vaccine shipments to increase exponentially but skwaunts aren't guaranteed. there's a shortage of seasonal flu vaccine for adults in the month of october and montgomery county had to cancel its in-school vaccination program for the seasonal flu this week because it ran out of the vaccine. >> the shipments of the seasonal flu vaccine were not coming in on time. we had a couple of shipments that did not come in at the right temperature and had to be isn't back. >> reporter: since health officials say 99% of f cases are h1n1, h1n1 vaccine is what's being made and the public should concentrate on swine flu as well. >> if they haven't gotten their seasonal flu vaccine, focus on getting the h1n1 now because that's what the manufacturers are sendi

. >>> fairfax county police are searching for two men who robbed and stabbed a men outside of the springfield mall. police say the victim was sitting outside of the mall when two young men walked up and demanded he hand over his wallet. he did and one robber stabbed the shopper. he was rushed to the hospital and is now recovering. >>> here's a look at something happening in our region. maryland's speed camera law is in affect now. some of the first new cameras are going up in highway construction zones in an effort to keep workers safe. on i-95 in laurel, electronic signs will warn drivers before camera sites. >>> another look at new laws taking affect today. you can no longer send a text message behind the wheel. a ticket will cost $500. teenagers must be 16 1/2 years old to get a provisional license and no one will get a full license until they are 18. and any u.s. or maryland flags bought with state money and displayed on state property must be made this the united states. >>> right now the united states and other world powers are meeting to try to convince iran to freeze the nuclear progr

to le high schoolers into a gang. 43-year-old theodore olds and his daughter targeted students at fairfax high school. the gang allegedly made money by committing crimes. authorities say gang members were charged $80 a month to belong. they got the use of cars and other perks. those who didn't pay allegedly were threatened with violence and forced to commit crimes. >>> michael vick is reuniting with nike, the shoe company announced an endorsement deal with the quarterback today. more than two years ago, they dissolved their deal with vick because of his involvement with a dogfighting ring. he is playing professional football again with the eagles after serving more than a year and a half in prison and spoke about the humane society. >>> a dog that went missing 10 years ago was found on the side of the road in oklahoma. >>> a stunt by a parajumper was >>> a dog that wandered away from the house in northern virginia ten years ago is about to come home. the dog is named brendall. he has a 13 mile trip ahead of him, all thanks to an 8-year-old girl in oklahoma. ted has our report. >> want a t

it is 64 in fairfax. the day will be mostly sunny skies with temperatures in the upper 60's to lower 70's. the wind will be out of the west. a cold fron will bring increased clouds and a chance for showers. i will tell you exactly when in just a few minutes. >>> local students are uniting to try to curb the number one killer of teens, car crashes. the program is at woodbridge high school today. each day, an average of 11 teenagers died in crashes in the u.s. that is more deaths each year than from drugs, suicide, homicide, or violence. >>> the beltway in tyson's corner is back open. cambridge road had been closed since august while the crews lifted steel beams in place for a new bridge. that is part of the hot line project. >>> 39 people have been arrested in a bribery scheme. they are expected in federal court today. the suspects have all pleaded not guilty. prosecutors say they paid more than $300,000 in bribes to get a cab license. one councilman has also pleaded not guilty to taking bribes to influenc

. >>> on saturday meet your favorite 9 news now personalities at the fall for fairfax festival. it is happening 9:00 to 6:00 p.m. and admission is free. you can always e-mail me at omg@wusa9.com with your ideas. >> thank you. >>> put on some good walking shoes. head down to u street and join the fight against breast cancer. that's what our next guests are asking you to do. with me is diane hearn. she is with the grand chapter of the order of the eastern star and margaret anderson the organizer of this saturday's 5- k breast cancer walk. good to have you with us. well, tell us about it. saturday. we have heard a little bit about howard's forecast but nothing will stop you from taking part in this. what time should people show up. >> we will walk at 9:00 but registration begins at 8:00 and you can register on site and we will be walking rain or shine. you are right. >> what's the registration fee. >> $25. >> this is something you have done before. how successful has it been in the past? >> it has been successful. we are excited that we were able to do something in the grassroots t

the temperatures are certainly chilly, down in the low to mid-40s in montgomery, fairfax, arlington and prince george's counties. only 52 in washington. mid-50s near the bay. near 50 around the blue ridge and shenandoah valley. a few locations, central virginia have dipped into the low 40s. it's in the 40s and even a few scattered areas out in the mountains have some frost this morning. these counties in blue getting some scattered frost this morning up into the ohio valley until about 9:00. i'll have details on our forecast for today. that will be coming up at 5:01. >> thanks, tom. >> let's go to ashley linder now. she's looking at the traffic out there this morning. any early problems? >> hi, ashley. good morning. >> good morning, barbara and joe. fortunately for drivers this early morning, no big problems. a quiet commute grets you this morning along 28 which is on the bottom side of your screen and the headlights traveling along the dulles toll road. no big issues out of loudoun this early morning. traveling around the capital beltway, you'll find your travel lanes open and at speed

fairfax county police are searching for a man who tried to abduct a woman. it happened at the herndon monroe park and ride lot. police say the woman was injured in the attack. it's unclear how badly. if you were in the area late this afternoon and saw anything, you're urge today call police. >>> also following this developing story out of the northeast. police tells us officers from prince george's county were chasing a stolen car out of cottage city when it crossed over to the d.c. line and slamming into this van flipping it onto the sidewalk. this scene unfolding right now at 22nd and kerney streets. no word on injuries. we have a crew on the scene. we'll bring you more details as soon as we get them. >>> new information tonight in a bribery bust involving the d.c. taxi cab industry and city hall. 28 of the 39 people under indictment were arraigned today in federal court, including the three men the government says were the masterminds. it's a scheme that has so far led directly into the office of d.c. city councilman jim graham. tpoábgs 5's paul wagner li

. >>> the hunt is on for the man who tried to abduct a fairfax county teen that happened iewdz afternoon. a man in a white pick-up truck asked the 15-year-old girl if she needed a ride while on her way home from woodson high school. he grabbed her when she said no. she was able is in copenhagen now. jeff joins us by phone. good morning. the chicago delegation is the immediate darlings in copenhagen with the president soon to arrive. the first lady and oprah winfrey already here. will that transcend into the vote for the international sports community. stay tuned. we have until tomorrow to find out. there have been high profile appearances. the first lay dpi's picture is splashed across two newspapers. dozens of fans turned out yesterday for her red carpet arrival at a chicago dinner. the international olympic committee members i don't get the sense necessary that they are so committed to chicago's bid just because these luminaries are here. and they say that they're going to vote because of the technical aspects of the bid. tomorrow their decisions will be made more upon the bid itself a

temperatures will warm up to the 70's. 48 degrees in gaithersburg. 54 in fairfax. our skies were clear yesterday. now these guys are starting to clear out once again. look for a mostly sunny skies today. now let's check on the rush-hour commute. >> picking up a lot of the overnight roadwork. beltway road worked at the american legion bridge in both directions. also doing some work overnight in lorton on 66 in vienna. maybe some lingering roadwork near 198. we should see things moving smoothly. things are moving well as you make your way across route 28 across the dulles toll road. >> thank you. >>> two months now, a major shake-up at a public schools in the district. >> more than 200 teachers heard the final bell. now students and teachers are fighting back with plans for a protest. >> it seems very quiet at this hour outside mckinley tech high school. later, it is expected to be busier. a protest is planned for it o'clock 45 this morning. teachers say they just want their jobs back -- in protest is planned for 8:45 this morning. this teacher was stripped of furthe

. >>> fairfax county police are searching for a man who tried to abduct a 15-year-old girl. a man was driving a white pickup truck approached the girl and offered her a ride. he grabbed her and try to force her into the truck. she was not injured. police in laurel are looking for two men who allegedly tried to obstruct three young children. the men were in a light blue mazda pickup truck with a dent in the driver's side defender and a partial maryland license plate. if you have any information, you're asked to call laurel city police. >>> it could be weeks before a final decion is made on a bother to send more troops to afghanistan. president obama is -- -- is reviewing his strategy. up to 40,000 troops are requested. >>> we are following a developing story is from overseas. a massive rescue effort is under way in the pacific after two natural disasters. the death toll is now up to 149. this is on the islands of samoa and american samoa. crews continued to search. fumet is rushing emergency food and medicine to the region. >> to aid in the response, i of declared this a majo

other area temperatures continue to keep this a very pleasant trend. 65 in fairfax. 63 -- as we get through the evening hours, temperatures will slowly fall. 70 degrees in richmond, 72 in raleigh. we will keep an eye on it as it moves in our direction. it is already getting close to the panhandle. some showers behind it -- the movement of the system at the way it is configured, you can see the showers moving from west to east. there may be an isolated showers and a few spots for the sunrise. we will plunge into a little warmer sector of air as it becomes partly sunny. saturday, will get well into the 70's, but there is a cold front and back here. that will be saturday whether. add in cloudiness. as we get through the afternoon, things bright not. the next system, this brings isolated thunderstorms on saturday. a low pressure area developing. the outset whether on saturday -- here is a closer view of what we will have. the rain will be moving from west to east. by saturday night, saturday evening, it looks like we are in fine shape for a few days. let's check out the express forecast. the fi

. >>> fairfax county investigators are looking for a man who attacked a teenager. the teenager was walking along the little river turnpike at around 10:30 p.m. when the suspect pulled her hair and grabbed her by her close. the girl fought back and was able the runaway. anyone with information is asked to call police. >>> police are looking for a gunman who shot people in an apartment complex. police say that fabian and his nephew were headed to work and got into an argument with two other men. somebody started shooting. >> they shot both of them while they were in the car. they just ran. the guys were covered up in the face. >> they were taken to the hospital with non life- threatening injuries. police say they do not have any suspects or motives. >>> back to the breaking news in georgetown, firefighters found a body after putting out a fire. john gonzales is live with the very latest. >> we understand it next door neighbor called the d.c. fire to report -- the homeowner was inside the home. this happened just before 4:00 this afternoon when firefighters arrived at

fairfax, up 54. satellite shows the frontal system moving on through.ing edge of a cool front that will arrive tonight and bring us the chance for showers. breezy conditions this l you know the one thing we didn't get to say was happy birthday, judy. >> yay. >> right about my age, is what i'm guessing. diane? >> and happy birthday from here, to >>> we turn, now, to the news this morning in the case against casey anthony. she, of course, the florida moe, accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, kaylee. the prosecutors have filed new motions saying the prosecutors can't prove it was murder. here's andrea canning. >> reporter: the state released over 1,000 new documents this week, that showed inconsistencies in fbi findings, relating to the scientific evidence in the case. the defense and casey's parents are calling it a major breakthrough. and they're using that information to fire back. but the prosecution maintains casey did it. and as of right now, they are not dropping any of the charges. casey anthony's attorney, todd m is so convinced, she did no

. >>> fairfax police on the hunt for a man that tried to abduct a teenage girl. it happened on i ever r little river turnpike. she managed to fight off the attacker and run home. if you happen to see anything and were in the area, police would like to hear from you. >>> fox 5 is following two developing stories right now. theirst, the aftermath of the powerful earthquake that rocked indonesia. it's been two days since the earthquake hit and survivors are being pulled from the rubble. rescuers believe 3,000 people could be trapped. more than 700 are confirmed dead. >>> help is starting to arrive in samoa. volunteers including the red cross and military are bringing supplies and medical care to the victims. the tsunami killed more than 160 people. >>> a million dollar extortion plot against david letterman exposed during a shocking on air admission. >> i have had sex with women that work for me on the show. >> tonight we know how the d.a. put the pieces together. >>> a newborn kidnapped from his mother in tennessee. now police say this case could be connected to ot

fairfax county police say the victim made up the entire story about being robbed and stabbed after he himself. detectives reportedly found inconsistencies between the man's story and evidence they found at the scene. >>> police are searching for two men they say held up a bank some mclean, virginia. one was wearing an orange jack wet reflective stripes a yellow hard hat and a black mask. the other was wearing all dark clothing. police say they robbed the wachovia bank. if you saw them or you know anything, call 1-866-411-tips. >>> it was a display of courage captured on camera as a man risk his life to save a little boy. >> we'll have details of that amazing rescue and a late night on capitol hl as lawmakers made some last-minute changes to the health care overhaul bill. we'll tell you would would be impacted the most by those changes. fox 5 morning news continues right after the break. spars ♪ why choose between delicious or 100 calories? with the new yoplait delights... ...now you can finally have both. it's the perfect parfait... ...with two indulgently rich layers... ...of chocola

. >>> the police in fairfax county arrest a man saying he was lling bootlegged dvds out of a barbershop. he's 40 years old. police say he sat in the back of theaters and filmed movies as they werplaying. they say he then made copies and would sell them at the ebb any barber and beauty shop on richmond highway. investigators say he sold an undercover officer more than # 00 bootlegged dvds over a seven-month peri. police say mcfarland is the only suspect in this case, but they say bootlegged dvds is a problem throughout the area. >>> metro is shutting down some stations this columbus day weekend for repairs. metro officials announced today that the waterfront southeastern university navy memorial stations will all close for the entire three-day weekend. the closures will begin at 10:30 friday night of columbus day weekend. it will affect the leplant naval station. there will be no green line service there. to help people get around, the yellow line will be stopping at leplant plaza. >>> a driver lost control while going through rock creek park this afternoon, and landed in the creek. u.s.

. >> reporter: fairfax county police say mcfarland is the sole suspect in this case. but bootlegging is a problem throughout the area. >> it's not just limited to dvds. clothing, shoes, bags, a list pretty much endless. >>> mcfarland was arrested on three counts of selling bootlegged dvds and one count of being a convicted felon with a firearm. that is because he was arrested just last year for selling counterfeit cds and given a one-year suspended sentence. >> keith, thank you. >>> a woman in arlington came home late saturday night to find a capitol police officer passed out in her bed. officer thomas mcmann was still sleeping when police arrived at the apartment around 1:00 sunday morning. he was charged with unlawful entry. mcmann lives in reston. police say they do not know why he decided to sleep in a stranger's apartment in north arlington. he is on paid leave pending on the outcome of the criminal charges. and an internal investigation. >>> authorities are searching for two men who robbed wachovia bank in mclean at 10:00 this morning in the 6200 block of old do

you know, we have the fall for fairfax going on.errapins have a home game and saturday not a bad day after an early shower highs in the mid to upper 70s. the momslikeme.com bus stop forecast, clouds mixing in and bit chilly, 40 and -- 40s and 50s. this afternoon, mostly sunny and pleasant. highs in the 60s to near 70. northwesterly winds less than yesterday at five to ten miles an hour. tonight, clear to partly cloudy. another chilly one. mid-40s to lower 550 -- 50s with a south wind at five. right now 52 on the bay from annapolis. 56 at the naval air station in patuxent. jan in reedville 57 and bill 52. quantico 50. look at manassas one of the cool spots 41. and out to wiers cave, shenandoah regional airport, 39 degrees this morning. dew point in the 40s. temperatures in the 50s and light northwesterly winds at five miles an hour. at least we don't have much of a wind chill to talk about. we are still watching the storm system up in southeastern canada it has pulled farther away from us and the winds will be lighter as high pressur

. >>> fairfax county police searching for a man they say tried to abduct a teenager on her way me fromchool. this happened tuesday on braeburn drive in annandale. the 15-year-old was walking home alone from wood soon high school when police say she was approached bya man in a white pickup truck. she refused a ride so he grabbed her. she was able to break free and the suspect drove off. he is described as a white man in his 40s, 5'8", with brown hair and a goatee. his struck had a pittsburgh steelier sticker on the back bumper and steelier flag on the back glass. >>> a father is accused of introducing his daughter to a life of crime. police say theater olds used his 17-year-old to recruit gang members. informants eventually gave up olds. one said he charged gang members monthly dues of $80. he is in jail without bond. his daughter is charged as a juvenile. >>> the united states saying it will not make a snap judgment this week on iran's nuclear program. the obama administration has indicated it is not in a surey to slap sanction ozzie ron because of its nuclear ambitions. the state depa

. >>> also investigators say a man in fairfax county apparently stretched the truth about getting stabbede springfield mall. he did get caught, but police say he did it to himself and now he's charged with filing a false police report. he claimed the two men approached him on tuesday night, demanded his wallet and then stabbed him. >> all right, it is 8:30 right now of the let's get another check on our day from tucker barnes. >> thank you very much, allison. we've got a lot of clouds across the region but hang in there, i think there will be afternoon sunshine. currently in the 50s. 58 here in town. 55 is the winning number in fredericksburg an dulles. yesterday we were in the mid- 60s. mid-70s later today so it will be a lot more comfortable. warm front moving through right now. you can see some rain showers across the central sections of pennsylvania and then back out to the west we've got a cold front. that will get in here starting later tonight and during the morning hours tomorrow and give us a chance for scattered showers to start the weekend. maybe an afternoon thunderstorm too.

>> i've been in a rescue team with fairfax county fire and rescue outside of d.c. where i was assistant chief with the burke fire department out there. what you're seeing right now apparently the horse went in hindquarters first. the rider refused medical treatment. they say that the horse is okay but what they'll do is they'll try to get a veterinarian out there to make sure that the horse is okay. one of the things they're trying to do is dig. we see people down in this hole. one of the things rescuers have to be extremely careful about is make sure that that hole doesn't collapse in on them and also on the horse. we see a number of straps and have seen horses before down off the road. they'll try to get the straps around the horse and try to stabilize the horse but that's one of the things that's very dangerous about the low grade rescue are the problems because any time you get in a hole below your chest it gets very dangerous because it looks like they have some shoring in there. i can tell you the fire department around the phoenix area are very, very good. e