one example is the leader of the fairhaven baptist church in indiana. gave last month. >> this evening i would like to preach on spanking according to the bible. now, this is not a new subject here at fairhaven baptist church. >> he then talked about the proper way to administer discipline. >> what is a rod? i don't think it's a ball bat. i don't think it's a club or whatever the parent can grab at the moment. the rod and scriptures never carefully define but it's obviously some kind of a stick or a switch and this is it. it's designed to give a sharp, unpleasant pain. if that isn't the result of your spanking, then you're failing. a sharp, unpleasant pain. >> fairhaven is part of the network of independent fundamentalist baptist churches and it raises questions if people are using the bible to justify their own bad parenting or justifying things. you say you and your siblings were beaten. what was your upbringing like? you underwent what i think was called biblical chastisement. what did that actually mean? >> there are a large network of churches know

now, this is not a new subject here at fairhaven baptist church. >> he then talked about the proper wayster discipline. >> what is a rod? i don't think it's a ball bat. i don't think it's a club or whatever the parent can grab at the moment. the rod and scriptures never carefully define but it's obviously some kind of a stick or a switch and this is it. it's designed to give a sharp, unpleasant pain. if that isn't the result of your spanking, then you're failing. a sharp, unpleasant pain. >> fairhaven is part of the network of independent fundamentalist baptist churches and it raises questions if people are using the bible to justify their own bad parenting or misinterpreting things. jocelyn zichterman grew up in the fundamentalist church. she says she and her siblings were beaten what was your upbringing like? you underwent what i think was called biblical chastisement. what did that actually mean? >> there are a large network of churches known as the fundamentalist churches, but they believe in something called breaking the will of a child. so my father was an ifb pastor. currently is