christians certainly in the catholics, but not routine contact with pat robinson once or twice and jerry falwell but no, that wasn't his world. >> was he a signer of petitions? >> guest: he signed one endorsing action for election and 72 among the professors he was teaching time at the nyu business school and that caused >> i remember being there is a graduate and people were outraged as the first 18-year-old daughter to come that was michael first election and i probably voted for richard for reelection. i think that -- its 91% for mcgovern and for all dress cleaver and that forward-looking 3%. okay, we are up with the hour. we've spent our time talking about the new conservative persuasion selected essays 1942 to 2,009 by irving kristol and we've been talki >> guest: thank you. from the philadelphia free library, this is about an hour. [applause] >> thank you very much. it's wonderful to be here. i love this and you, get lots of good questions which we will to save time for the end. it's an interesting occasion this is the first time i've been up in front of an audience talking about andrew jo