falwell. the court ruled unanimously for hustler magazine which had published a cartoon parody of religious leader jerry falwell who had sued to recover damages for libel, invasion of privacy and emotional distress. next, on american history tv a , discussion on at the landmark free speech case with editorial cartoonist and a legal expert. this one-hour event was part of a symposium on satire, held at the university of minnesota. >> i want to welcome you to the state of our satirical union. this is the 30th anniversary of the hustler magazine versus falwell decision by the supreme court. i want to thank jane kirkley and matt worker and others for pulling this together. what is the purpose of this symposium? why are we here? why do we persist? after all, they have all the money, all the power, all the politicians. i remember somebody tell me before the election that if hillary won, wall street won and if trump won, wall street won. so, why do we persist? why are we doing this even though the am

falwell decision by the court. i want to thank jane kirtley , what is the purpose of this symposium? why are we here? why do we persist? after all, they have all the money, power, and politicians. i remember somebody telling me, before the election, that if hillary won, wall street won. if trump one, -- won, wall street won. why do we persist? why are we doing this even though america decided to elect a malignant clown to be the leader. i think we are here because freedom of thought matters. we are here because we believe in freedom of speech. we are here because we believe in freedom of the press. tonight, i have this theory. if you spend 5 minutes with me, you have heard this. it is the platonic ideal of the perfect cartoon. i think that a perfect cartoon is out there, at the right time, by the rate person in the right place, and it can bring down donald trump. because of hustler, -- and hustler magazine v. falwell, we have the freedom to do that. people can still see that. we have that possibility of making a di

here he is depicting jerry falwell beaming with terribly hurt feelings and here is reverend falwell's lawyer, norman roy grutman as a horror house piano player. >> [ laughter ] >> the court unanimously reversed the judgment in favor of reverend falwell. after talking about and borrowing from the brief about the long tradition of political satire, he said, from the viewpoint of history, it is clear that political discourse would be considerably poorer without political cartoons. ultimately, he said, outrageousness in the area of political and social discourse has an inherent subject hipness about it that would allow a jury to impose liability on the basis of the jurors case reviewed or perhaps on dislike of a particular expression. an outrageousness with the long- standing refusal to allow this to be awarded because the speech in question could have an adverse emotional impact on the audience. as we will hear throughout the rest of the day, this decision has been cited in many, many cases since 1988. there has been a tremendous amount of scholarship on just how it was that the chief st

falwell. the court ruled unanimously for hustler for its parody of jerry libel,, who sued for invasion of privacy, and emotional distress. on american history tv, a panel discussion about the arguments presented to the court and the decisions impact on editorial cartoonists and other first amendment cases. ofs one hour event was part the symposium on satire held at the university of minnesota. will go ahead and introduce a george freeman, the moderator of this panel. he is the executive director of the media law resource center. prior to that, he was counsel to a law firm, but too many of us associatedever be with his role, where many of us worked with george on many high-profile cases. on these frequently and other topics and teaches at columbia, new york university and the graduate school of journalism. so, george, take it away. thank you very much. , we arehe prior panel low-tech guys, no audiovisuals, so we will not dally around here with this machine. we would just talk. two other things

was it aimed at falwell or his mother? was it aimed is trying to be as outrageous as possible for the sake of outrageousness? does anyone have thoughts on that? >>> i do not know enough about the background, but was fault will a big critic of hustler? presumably he was because of the nature of what they did. i think he was just trying to stick it to them, as we say. >> that makes it even worse from a legal point of view because the name was to inflict emotional distress which is the name of it. that makes it better that the right side won so to speak. does anyone have any other thoughts on the purpose of the ad? >> if you take larry flynt at his word in the deposition that the idea was to cause harm to jerry falwell and knock him off a pedestal, he has asked all of these questions directly in the deposition and that is the reason that len mentioned this is the worst deposition in american law. you can line up the elements and he is taking them off himself in the deposition. if you take flynt at his word, the idea was to ta

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falwell. the court ruled unanimously for hustler magazine which had published a cartoon parody of religious leader jerry falwell who had sued to recover damages for libel, invasion of privacy and emotional distress. next, on american history tv a , discussion on at the landmark free speech case with editorial cartoonist and a legal expert. this one-hour event was part of a symposium on satire, held at the university of minnesota. >> i want to welcome you to the state of our satirical union. this is the 30th anniversary of the hustler magazine versus falwell decision by the supreme court. i want to thank jane kirkley and matt worker and others for pulling this together. whs

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. >> he wrote his senior thesis and about jerry falwell and that was two different types of religions and which calls people to a moral imperative and to act the best they can in the imperfect world versus the exploitation and manipulation of religion that is what falwell dead as a fraudulent exploitation of religion and cited himself in the other direction and you can see the growing split between the republican party to say and do anything just to win and those who wanted to adhere to rule of law. >> you say fight like hell? please. there is a lot of good republicans and democrats who are out there so don't cast dispersions but i'm talking about comey what he sets up is the old-fashioned republican principal. >> go back to the view care is a question that was asked of james comey. >> president troll trump told lester holt he had russia on his mind and he had a decision to fire you. he recently tweeted this morning that it wasn't a factor that james comey the worst in history was not fired because of /s/ investigation. but he didn't say it. why do you believe you are fired? >> i don'

at 2 pm eastern purchased and legal experts guess the supreme court case hustler magazine versus falwell. and the impact on editorial cartoonists 30 years later. watch this weekend on the c-span network. >> is the house is ready to debate the farm bill, catherine boudreau joins us. a reporter for food and agriculture from politico pro. what are the key details of the farm bill and how long is this authorization for federal farm program funding? >> the bulk of this sweeping legislation is geared towards a supplemental nutrition assistance program for food stamps. necessarily the most controversial aspect of getting the farm bill pass. nutrition accounts for eight percent of this bill so the chairman has proposed imposing stricter work retirements between five and seven million people that are enrolled in the snap program and then of course, the other 20 percent of the farm bill is spent on commodity subsidies for farmers, also crop insurance programs that they pay into but their premiums are subsidized so that is where the government comes in. then that pays out when there is a disaster,

eastern, the2:00 supreme court case hustler magazine versus falwell. watch this weekend on the c-span networks. >> c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979 c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington dc and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. >> our guest on this week's newsmakers is mark meadows. he discusses the robert mueller investigation. >> can you start out by explaining broadly what is your issue with the way the doj has conducted itself? and where do those issues stand at this moment? >> i think probably the issue to answer your question correctly is that we get more rhetoric and beget action. for us it is all about getting the documents and making sure we get the documents that we have a constitutional right to have. we have been requesting many of these documents since last november. so here we are six or seven and a into the pro

minnesota, a look back 30 years to the first amendment supreme court case, hustler magazine versus falwell. i am extremely uneasy to talk about the values. sense of it is a lot of the first minute purposes come from the fact that safed -- ist's of -- that satire factual. it's donald trump with a pigtail for his -- at the back of his hair. or it's donald trump with a toilet for his mouth. it invites you to compare this and whetherreality it is a legitimate comparison. it does it efficiently, it does it quickly. it does it through a variety of devices and images and words. it cuts across socioeconomic lines. what i think is the lost opportunity, it would have been this chance for the court to talk about all the things that just defensible but a glorious part of our history of freedom of expression. and i think that opportunity was missed. >> watch the entire program at 2 p.m. eastern on sunday. american history tv, only on c-span3. >> sunday night, journalist and author jerome corsi talks about his book killing the deep state, he is interviewed by an investigative journalist. >> i heard some

i worked there with jerry falwell, senior. i was there for 13 years and started working there when i was 19 as a campus pastor. the way they engaged in the public square, the moral majority was that, the moral majority. it was not evangelicals, it was evangelicals and catholics across the board. if you agree on a few of these principles, you can move forward together. it was something he got, it was something we got, especially as evangelicals, that we work on everything together in order to work on one thing together. i remember coming here when i first learned about michael's amazing work, attending the international aids conference in washington, d.c. co-belligerency died for a time after jerry falwell's death, where you would have people swing to the right and endorse a candidate. conversations i hear with a lot of these people, they are used to seeing pivotal elections, and then it is like, see you in four years. that has not been the case. i have tried to manage this faith and hope problem might not living in washington,

jerry falwell said the same thing at the republican national convention. the same thing. blue-collar in this instance has nothing to do with wealth. it has to do with cultural identity. donald trump was very, very good at using those -- at least in the campaign. his policies have not really followed through on that, but the way he talks about coal mining. famous picture of him in the truck outside of the white house. when he talks about jobs, he's talking about manufacturing jobs. he's talking about blue-collar work. that do not exist the way they used to. that is the mindset he has an people here it and respond to it. steve: generally speaking, the white working class voter, if you look at the trends, went for lyndon johnson in 1964, richard nixon in 1972, reagan in 1980 reagan4, the so-called democrats, then went back to clinton in 1980 -- 1992, barack obama in 2008 and generally speaking, donald trump in 2016. is that correct? dr. lombardo: for the most part. one of the things to understand about clinton and obama is one of the things we often overlook is how much the

his senior thesis edwin and mary where he graduated in 1982 about reinhold niebuhr and about jerry falwelland talked about basically two different kinds of religions and one is a religious philosophy that calls people to moral imperatives and to try to act morally the best they can in an imperfect world, versus the exportation of manipulation of religion which is what he said jerry falwell did. he thought it was a fraudulent exploitation of religion, and he cited in so many other direction. we can see almost from his college of thesis the growing split within the republican party, those would basically say and do anything just to win, have the team on top try politically, those who did want to adhere to a moral fashion idea of the rule of law. >> jamie, you're saying on the republicans go out there and fight, fight like hell to win. i mean, please don't do that. there's a lot of really good republican think the democrats were out there. let's not discount -- cast the dispersion. >> i agree to talk about the conflict that comey sets up between what he saw as an old-fashioned kind of republi

-belligerency died for eight time after jerry falwell falwell'safter jerry death, were would have people youg to the right -- where would have people swing to the right and endorse a candidate. conversations i hear with a lot they are usede, to seeing pivotal elections, and then it is like, see you in four years. that has not been the case. i still live in southern , and i have been trying to handle the d.c. problem that way. the white house wants to continue this, so i have been a part of several listening sessions with 700,000 evangelicals in the white house. i feel like this gets lost in the news coverage, with due respect julia, i am not speaking sometimes --, but the fact is that evangelicals, the conservative ones, have played a moderating force on issues like daca and prison which ifamily leave, think will come up in the next few months. evangelicals have played a huge role in the opioid conversation. i sat at a meeting in the white house with 50 leading professionals. conversation.e it is not about abortion and religious freedom, but the cost of trump. said, because i have a cong

the moral majority, jerry falwell out of virginia, christian coalition associated with pat roberson,elevangelists like tammy and jim baker. what is distinct here is the politicization of evangelical. when we talked about populism, we talked about religion, and the elements of religion that found their way in to populist thought. that theme has gone through everything we talked about. it begins to emerge in the 1970's as a political element, truly to be considered. i will move through this fairly quickly to wrap it up. jimmy carter has difficulties. as an engineer, he is really good at technical problems, but in some ways he is a micromanager. he runs as an outsider against the washington establishment only to find out he does not have the connections to see policy through, and many people don't feel he has a coherent policy on most of the issues confronting the united states. by the latter stages of his presidency, especially in foreign affairs, carter is dealing with the knot of an iranian revolution in which u.s. hostages are held from 1979-1981, and he seems impotent to do anythin

sunday at 2:00 p.m., the supreme hustler magazine versus falwell."end, hillary clinton joins linda johnson to talk about former first lady, betty ford. here's a preview. >> when president ford became i wasdent ford, introduced to betty ford. aside from being beautiful and grateful and gracious and humble and welcoming, she was fierce. whichng up to the e.r.a., at that time was not quite as off-limits as it later became because of all kinds of efforts against it, but betty ford as the first lady speaking out in favor of equal rights amendment's was astonishing -- amendments was astonishing. i was living in arkansas. the work that she did was just like a thunderclap. people felt it, believed it, were in awe of it. i thought that took so much grit and guts. we all know about her work on behalf of breast cancer because it wasn't just her openness about it. it was very personal to me because my mother's best friend, a woman who lived across the street from us in the 1960's, came down with breast cancer and nobody talked about it. the children -- i was fri

falwell. watch this weekend on the c-span networks. >> next, on the civil war, a yale university investor talks about the political and often religious rhetoric that frederick douglass used when writing or speaking about abolition or the civil war. this was part of a conference hosted by the university of virginia center for civil or history -- civil war history. gary, liz, joan, will and other friends. i learned a long time ago that when they invite you somewhere, say yes and that figure out later what you will talk about, or talk about whatever they want you to talk about. it is always fun and always important and there is no better audience. -- i am not above promoting a new book, one not -- why not? [laughter] prof. blight: my publisher gave me 1000 copies of these damn things. [laughter] prof. blight: i have to give them away. i've been going around and putting them on tables and they are always there when i leave. [laughter] prof. blight: many of you may be wondering why another biograph

co-belligerency died for a time after jerry falwell's death, where you would have people swing to the right and endorse a candidate. conversations i hear with a lot of these people, they are used to seeing pivotal elections, and then it is like, see you in four years. that has not been the case. i still live in southern california, and i have been trying to handle the d.c. problem that way. but the white house wants to continue this, so i have been a part of several listening sessions with 700,000 evangelicals in the white house. the third thing is something that has been said here twice already. i feel like this gets lost in the news coverage, with due respect julia, i am not speaking of your paper, but sometimes -- the fact is that evangelicals, the conservative ones, have played a moderating force on issues like daca and prison reform, family leave, which i think will come up in the next few months. evangelicals have played a huge role in the opioid conversation. i sat at a meeting in the white house with 50 leading professionals. faith drove the conversation. it is not about abort

minnesota, a look back 30 years to the first amendment supreme court case hustler magazine versus falwell. here is a preview. >> i am extremely uneasy to talk about the value -- my values in a room of people who do it for a living and of the answer better than i do. my own sense of it is a lot of the power for first amendment purposes comes on the fact that satire is counterfactual. get invites you into this imaginative process for the world looks different. it is donald trump with a pigtail at the back of his hair. butt is that donald trump with a toilet for his mouth or something like that. it invites you to compare this alternative reality to our reality and ask us to consider how fair the comparison is. it does it efficiently, quickly. it does it through a variety of devices like words and images and humor. it cuts across socioeconomic lines. what i think is a lost opportunity in the hustler case is there would've been a chance for the court to talk about all the things that make satire not just defensible, but a glorious part of our history of freedom of expression. i think that oppo

so this guy bill falwell is reasoning in the 17th congressional district in illinois.district that trump won by 1%. the democrat beat the republicans by 20 points. the republicans didn't really make an effort to recruit a candidate. so this guy, who wrote in his book that 9/11 was a controlled demolition and i think he went a little bit further when he was speaking with us and said, quote, jet fuel can't melt steal beams", he's a very big 9/11 truther and he's captured the nomination for this district. >> and what is this about beyonce and the illuminati? >> a few years ago he wrote in a blog post that beyonce and jay-z on his web site had ties to the illuminati. now, when we spoke to him on the phone, he also added that taylor swift had ties to the illuminati as well. >> expanding the tribe. >> expanding it. and he also wrote that madonna was a narcissistic skank with crooked teeth who also had ties to the illuminati. so that is this guy. >> and we don't know why he believes this. he just -- >> he seems actually very convinc convinced. when we called him, he wanted to

democratic congressman eric falwell has been an outspoken critic of the trump administration and even he admits the obama white house dropped the ball. when he was asked why the former administration's concerns about russia was never made public until after reports surfaced about campaign infiltration. >> there were many red flags that were missed and to put this in context donald trump was also telling the american people the election was going to be read and intelligence officials acknowledged that plate into their decision whether to tell the american people what the russians were doing because they didn't want to play into that false narrative donald trump was piddling. i think that was the wrong paul on the obama administration. >> they were so concerned the russians had something over this campaign or this candidate it makes no sense that they wouldn't have briefed them. >> i agree. >> he went on to say he still believes there is evidence of collusion but no conclusions should be drawn until robert mueller finishes the investigation. we have no idea when that will be. to north k

at 2 pm eastern purchased and legal experts guess the supreme court case hustler magazine versus falwell. and the impact on editorial cartoonists 30 years later. watch this weekend on the c-span network. >> is the house is ready to debate the farm bill, catherine boudreau joins us. a reporter for food and agriculture from politico pro. what are the key details of the farm bill and how long is this authorization for federal farm program funding? >> the bulk of this sweeping legislation is geared towards a supplemental nutrition assistance program for food stamps. necessarily the most controversial aspect of getting the farm

was protected by the first amendment because reverend falwell was a reason figure. in depth fiction addition featuring writers, contemporary novelist jen will be our guest. >> if we are talking about creativity and many writers and so on, the people who have a lot to say are not -- are completely undaunted by being told the rules of perspective or story telling. you know, i mean the whole idea that there is, you know, a story telling, you know, that there's a triangle that you must learn to do this if you're going to go on to be a fiction writer it's necessary but not sufficient. it's not going to make you a great writer. and that -- but then you sit down with early faulkner, early everybody, and you discover that actually, they could all do it, you know. i think that there's nothing about learning to do those things that impedes creativity. >> her books include typical american, mona and the promise land, and whose irish. watch our special series sunday live from noon to 3:00 p.m. eastern on book tv on c-span 2. >> the senate judiciary committee heard from musician

falwell. and impact on editorial cartoonists 30 years later. this weekend on the c-span networks. >> this morning the u.s. commission on civil rights heard from law enforcement officials on their experiences with hate crimes in their communities. and how local police and prosecutors are dealing with it. we're going to show you that discussion while the commission is on its lunch break. our live coverage resumes at about 1:00 eastern with a conversation on policy solutions >> christa painter, maureen rudolph. sarah sue will, wanda smith, brian walsh, michelle raimi, and shiman, for preparing and making logistical details for making today work. i thank vice-chair good son for today's briefing and. i caution all speakers including our commissioners to refrain from speaking over each other, for ease of transcription and allow for sign language translation to my right. for any individual who might need to view the sign language translation, there are seats available in clear view. i ask every one present to silence your phones and not take flash pho

congressman eric falwell from san francisco bay has a solution for gun violence writing this in an op-edhould ban position of military style semi automatic weapons, buyback such weapons from those who choose to abide by the law and commonly prosecute any who choose to deify it by keeping their weapons. it would not apply to law enforcement agencies. we are joined by emily miller, author of emily gets again, political strategist and expert in gun-control policies in dallas at the nra convention were donald trump is scheduled to address the event tomorrow. great to have you with us. what do you make of that? sounds like confiscation. >> it is confiscation and i hope the congressman goes personally to check everybody's house in america to see if they have an ar 15, goes over real well. i'm kidding. >> it is ridiculous, you can't, we don't have a national registry, we don't have a national registry, we don't know who owns these guns and i can promise you as a gun owner coming here, tens of thousands of other proud gunowners who support the second amendment, they are not going to turn in thei

eastern, cartoonists and experts discuss the supreme court case, hustler magazine versus falwell. >>his weekend on the presidency, hillary clinton bb to talka johnson ro about former first lady betty ford. here is a preview. linda: when president ford became president ford, i along with the rest of the country was introduced to betty ford. hillary: and aside from being gracious and welcome and humbling, she was fierce. standing up to the e.r.a., which at that time was not quite as off-limits as a later became because of all kinds of efforts but betty ford as the first lady, speaking out in favor of the equal rights amendment was astonishing. i was living in arkansas, and the work that she did was just like a thunderclap. people felt it, believed it, were in all of it. and i thought that took so much grit and guts. we all know about her work on behalf of of breast cancer, because it wasn't just her openness about it. me it was very personal to because my mother's best friend, a woman who lived across the street back in the 1960's, came down with breast cancer and nobody talked about i

. >> you know, i've heard pastor john hagee through the years along with jerry falwell and others whod that fundamental belief that the jews, god brought the holocaust to punish the jews. nazi holocaust brought the holocaust to punish the jews. the founder of our christian face because we are the first christian church was made up of 3,000 jews on a day of pentecost so why is it that they feel they are so separate from the jews when they are really judio christians? >> john mccain had to reject hagee's endorsement and repudiate the comments. we all remember what president obama said about jeremiah wright and his comments. why does there appear to be most response, no consequence for president trump? >> you know, it's amazed me because, number one, president trump has some moral issues of his own. the thing that the fundamentalist and southern baptist convention, which is one strict philadelph fundamentally is amazing to me. they were strict when it came to religious doctrine and now very lukewarm in their doctrine teaching. they seem to espouse the fact that the end justify the means

falwell.ch this weekend on the c-span networks. >> next, on the civil war, a yale university investor talks about the political and often religious rhetoric that frederick douglass used when writing or speaking about abolition or the civil war. this was part of a conference hosted by the university of virginia center for civil or history -- civil war history. gary, liz, joan, will and other friends.

prime time and we look at politics and the landmark supreme court decision in hustler magazine versus falwell, they found a vocal parody was protected -- vulgar parody was protected because the reverend was a public figure and no reasonable figure or person would believe the satire was true. >>> commencement speeches, all this week and prime time, tonight at 9 pm eastern, starbucks coo, roslyn gates brewer and nikki haley, wednesday at 8 pm eastern, hillary clinton, rex tillerson, james mattis and canadian prime minister, justin trudeau, thursday at eight pm eastern, apple ceo tim cook, john kasich, congressman luis gutierrez and friday at 8 pm eastern, jimmy carter, betsy divorce, representative, marc meadows, and atlanta mayor. this week in prime time on c- span and c-span.org and the free c-span radio app. >>> this year, c-span's touring cities across the country exploring american history, next, a look at the recent visit to selma, alabama. >> racism has not gone away in the country and most certainly in the deep south. i am james perkins junior, i was born and reared here in selma, educa

jerry falwell, franklin graham, mike huckabee, all of them, they dress up as man of god, but they are not. they are in business and they are in politics. and the type of politics that they advocate is an extreme and theocratically tinged politics. you see that they thirst for the nectar of political power, the gospel is secondary. when you look at their ex-vocations of donald trump from all sorts of behavior that they previously condemned, it's for expedient partisan political purposes. one of the things that is certainly true about this movement, wherever you look around the world and you see the fusion of the state with religion, whether it is putin and the orthodox church, complicit in his power or other places around the world, the ideology advanced and represented by hege at all always veers towards the autocratic. it's always less free. it's always dominated by an extreme animus towards gays. there are people who would much rather tell you how to live and what birth control that you're allowed to take, for example, if you're a young woman than would ever dare to say what is so o

agreeing to speak at jerry falwell's liberty university.he atlantic ran a piece during the 2008 presidential campaign titled mccain, the sellout. based on a fear that the candidate might govern as a conservative. and in a 2010 "vanity fair" piece headlined the man who never was, mccain is called so desperate to keep his sentence'e seat that he repudiated his record, his principles and even his maverick repetition. entrenching himself as the anti-obama. here to talk about mccain, a p.o.w. with him during the vietnam war. a p.o.w. for six years and also my colleague in the reagan administration. and frank, esteemed pollster. he's going to show how the media have used mccain over the years to fit whatever narrative they find convenient at the moment. it's great to see both of you. jim, i want to talk to you first. first of all, great to see you. i was young, you were even more handsome back then back in 1987, sharing office together. >> that's before i took on the appearance of a homeless man. >> laura: it's all cool here. you better than anyo

i turn to eric falwell. he interviewed michael cohen last fall. you know more than we do and some of it you told us before you are not at liberty to discuss. what does stand out to you about what has now become public on this very strange case? >> good evening, ari, just like most trump family members or trump employees or trump campaign team members, you know, any tree that you shaic in this trump forest, a russian falls out. and that's what we're seeing here. of course, there was a russian involved. now what we were not able to find. this is all the more reason it was premature for us to ends our investigation, there were a lot of questions around michael cohen's finances and his dealings with russians. we had asked for bank records, travel records, phone locks and the republicans were unwilling to use the subpoena power they had to force mr. cohen to deliver that to us or to answer questions around it. he was able to you know hide behind the voluntary construct that the republicans set up. i think now, ari, frankly the president is in a positio

best they can in a pim perfect world versus the exploitation of religion and what he thought jerry falwelldid, he thought it was exploitation of religion and sided himself in the other direction and we can see almost from his college thesis the growing split within the republican party, those who would say and do anything just to win and have their team on top tribalisticly and those who did want to adhere to an idea of the rule of law. >> and you're saying, please, don't do that. i mean, that's-- there are a lot of good democrats and republicans and out there doing an honest job and let's not cast an aspersion on-- >> no, i'm talking what comey thought was an old-fashioned principled republicans and the mafia view. >> and let's go back to the question that sonny halfman told. >> president trump told lester holt he had the russia thing on his mind in making the decision to fire you. he recently tweeted this morning that actually the russia thing wasn't a factor. so james comey, the worst fbi director in history was not fired because of the phony russia investigation, but he said it. he did

eastern, the supreme court case hustler magazine versus falwell and its impact on editorial cartoonists. watch this weekend on the c-span networks. >> monday on landmark cases, regents of the university of ,alan bakke ws twice rejected, in favor of less qualified minority applicants, he said, and took the university to court. upheld the constitutionality of affirmative action under the 14th amendment. our guest to discuss this actingk case are the solicitor general from 2010 22011 and randy barnett, professor at georgetown long center and an originalist constitutional legal scholar and commentator. live monday night at 9:00 eastern on c-span. join the conversation. is #landmarkcases. more at c-span.org/landma rkcases. >> great to have you with us. .e have our reporters with us thank you both. go ahead with the first question. being with us today. you are in the middle of a lot of stories happening on capitol hill. of the start with one biggest, you have been one of the biggest critics ofhe

beginning with the discussion about the landmark supreme court decision in hustle magazine versus falwell was pro tected b the first amendment because public figure and no reasonable person would believe the sat tire was true. >> commencement speeches, all this week in prime time. tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern me too movement founder burke, clarence thomas, starbucks coo, roslyn gates brewer, and nikki haley. wednesday. hillary clinton. thursday, and congressman louis gyte teres. and on friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, jimmy carter, betsy devos, representative mark meadows. and atlanta mayor lance bottoms. this week in prime time on c-span and c-span.org and on the free c-span radio app. >> the republican national lawyers association held its annual policy conference at the national press club in washington d.c. recently. michael mukasey who served as attorney general at the end of the boring bush administration addressed the gathering. and later we'll hear from attorneys suing colleges as what they view as free speech violations. >> i'm on hoard to introduce michael mukasey to discuss the rul

sunday at 2 pm cartoonist and legal experts discussed the supreme court case hustler magazine versus falwell and its impact on editorial cartoonist 30 years later. watch this weekend on the c-span network. >> next on c-span2, veterans affairs officials talk about the va's budget request before the senate appropriations subcommittee on military construction and veterans affairs. they also talked about benefits provided to veterans, the electronic record and accessibility of care in rural areas. >> subcommittee will come to order. good afternoon and thank you all for being here today to discuss the fiscal year 2019 and fiscal year 20 budget for the department of veterans affairs. as far as federal domestic spending goes, this budget request makes the department of veterans affairs a very comfortable place. with a 6.6 billion or 8.3 percent funding increase for the department, the budget request before us today is genderless. this includes the 2.4 billion amendment budget amendment officially submitted by omb. it does not have or include the additional funds we understand it may be required or

atday at uno clock -- sunday falwelle case hustler v and its impact on cartoonists. watch this weekend on the c-span network. c-span, where history unfolds daily. c-span was created as a public service and today we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the policy court and public events in washington, d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite divider. -- satellite provider. >> sunday, university of california santa barbara english professor on his book, "inse parable." about the life of conjoined twins. couples, to married they cannot be in the same bed. -- these are two married couples, two separate households about a mile from each other. his deck based -- to this very rigid schedule. one house for three days and chang is the master of the house. the other will give up his free will. move toys later, they the other house. chang will give up his own free will. >> did it work? >> apparently. they had 21 children. next, s.c. gwinn talks about his book in which he recounts the life and military ca

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if i turn on the tv, the voices of jerry falwell junior, even governor pence in indiana at the time got into a huge public dispute with then-archbishop towbin on the issue of refugees. where is this gap between the public evangelical voice that i am familiar with and probably most folks are familiar with and , what is actually going on in the pews? is it the pastors, or is there thiser voice that is moderating aspect? >> my question is for reverend moore. you talked about evangelicals, fairly or not, feeling and existential threat to their existence. obviously, there has been many communities in the united states, most notably african-americans that have felt , that feeling well in the history of our country. we have condemned parts of that and yet community and they inported either violence, or the case of now, political demagogues like louis farrakhan. fair, given what you said earlier, given the fact that evangelical christians are not been remotely in the situations those communities have faced, that they are not resorted to any of the kind of mass, nonviolent resistance that those

if i turn on tv the voices of jerry falwell, junior, billy graham's junior, even governor pence at indiana time got into a huge public dispute with the archbishop towbin on the issue of refugees. where is this gap between sort of the public evangelical voice that i'm familiar with, i'll be most folks are fully an what's i should going on? the pastors, is another voice that is moderate aspect? i'm interested to hear thoughts. >> one more and in the past the panel to comment. >> david. my question is for reverend moore. figure referred to this language of evangelicals feeling fairly or not an accident that to the existence but there's been many committees and the united states was nobody african-americans who have felt that he is felt in his upper country. and yet we've condemned parts of the committee when it supported either violence or in the case of no political demagogues like louis farrakhan. is it fair to basically say that i guess to push against what you were saying earlier, given the fact evangelical christians have not been remotely in the situation that those committees of faith,

and on sunday discussing the case of hustler versus falwell. >> c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. today we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress. the white house, the supreme court and public policy events in washington dc and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable cap -- satellite provider. >> discussing the 2019 budget at a subcommittee hearing. he took questions about federal efforts to reduce opioid addiction, drug costs and access to care. >> the appropriations subcommittee on labor health from human services, education and related agencies will come to order. good sound you hear this morning. i'm sure we will have a number of questions about your budget. that the final congressional action and fy 18strative action on occurred after you are asked to submit your budget. still, there are things that we need to talk about. the actual budget is $1.9 billion, that is 2.1% lower than the bill we just passed. addition to that, there is another $5.6 billion tha

in that decision, the high court found that a vulgar parody of jerry falwell was protected by the first amendment because reverend falwell was a public figure and no reasonable person would believe the satire was true. >> join us live sunday at noon eastern for our year long special, in depth fiction edition. featuring best-selling fiction writers, contemporary novelist gish jen will be our guest. >> if we're talking about creativity, and i know many writers and so on, that people who have a lot to say are not -- are completely undaunted by being told the rules of story telling. the whole idea that there is, you know, a story telling, you know, there's a triangle that you must learn to do this, if you're going to go on to be a fiction writer, it's necessary but not sufficient. you're learning to do this, it's not going to make you a great writer. but then you sit down with faulkner and you discover that actually, they could all do it. and i think there's nothing about learning to do those things that impedes creativity. >> her books include typical american, mona and the promise land, a