jerry falwell and these other preachers motivated. paul warrick by the way who i think is really the architect of the religious right has corroborated this and he's done -- i've had personal conversations with him and he's utterly emphatic about this point. he said that i was trying to get these people, meaning evangelicals, involved in politics ever since the goldwater campaign of 1964 and i couldn't get them interested. i tried everything i could think of. school prayer issue, pornography, opposition to the equal rights amendment, abortion. nothing got their attention until the school issue surfaced and that's what finally galvanized them into a political movement. there is a second part of the story for the rise of the religious right. the bob jones case and similar cases is what got the attention of evangelical leaders like falwell and others but he was also savvy enough to realize that he needed a different issue in order to get grass roots evangelicals behind the new movement which we know as the religious right. what happens is

yeah well i want to skip ahead having said i want to skip ahead to liberty university and jerry falwell he's the president very full jr he wrote a piece blasting the media for their reporting and their coverage of the school's handling of the coronavirus they said that peeps good students were coming back etc etc he wrote over the past few weeks the new york times c.n.n. the washington post politico and other left leaning media outlets have subjected liberty to baseless and relentless attacks and intentionally misled the public about our response to the coronavirus crisis they accurately reported cases of the virus in our campus community without verification and misrepresented the course of action that liberty university is taking to prevent the spread of the virus unfortunately for america the media are no longer fulfilling their obligation to maintain strict impartiality as their as a core tenet of their professional ethics the private americans are real news reporting from a reliable press so i think you hit it right on the head again specific to liberty university and in general. w

jerry falwell and others stoked this story very often. they refer to themselves as the new abolitionists. and the opposition of anti-bebe evangelicals. but there is quite a bit of fiction. abortion for evangelicals simply was not an issue. they considered it a catholic issue for most of the 1970s. let me provide bate a bit of eve for this. i won't give all of it. in 1969, christianity today magazine, the flagship magazine of evangelicalism convened a conference to talk about abortion as a moral issue. they issued a statement saying we can't agree that abortion is a moral issue. but we're inclined to allow abortion under certain circumstances. 1971, the southern baptist convention which as i'm sure many of you know is hardly liberalism, passed a resolution at the meeting in st. louis, missouri, calling for the legalization of abortion. resolution they reaffirmed in 1974, a year after the roe ruling and again in the 1976. when the roe v. wade decision was handed down, several prominent evangelical leaders including w.a. criswell from dallas

stuart: jerry falwell, jerry falwell, jr., he is covid denier.hink he blamed it on north korea, didn't he? he brought -- >> he was on "fox & friends and he said a couple things, might be north korean plot. he thought people were overreacting but again, i think if you're a newspaper man, if you're analyzing this, you have to tune out the noise. like with president trump, everyone gets so distracted by the noise, that "fox & friends" appearance no one look what he did. they took a lot of steps. two surprise state inspections they passed. too often, like with president trump, the people covering them just allow themselves to be distracted from the main question by the noise. in this case jerry falwell was more right than his critics. no one has admitted that. stuart: all right. bill mcgurn, always a pleasure. thanks for joining us, sir. >> thank you. stuart: the new york primary has been reinstated. okay, what is the latest on this one, ashley? ashley: basically a federal court upheld the ruling of a lower court saying that yes, the democratic presi

looking at a post pandemic world the pitfalls and opportunities the report lists the 10 most likely falwell's now the top 3 include a prolonged global recession followed by a surge in big rhapsodies of small and middle sized businesses and the failure of entire sectors to ever fully recover interestingly enough at the bottom of the top 10 the least likely of the most likely is a 2nd outbreak of covert 19 or another infection disease aren't for more let's bring in one of the authors of that report john scott is head of sustainability risk at zurich insurance group he is in london tonight john it's good to have you on the day i want to start with the number 10 on the top 10 they are the most likely fallout based on what we hear from public health officials and doctors i would think that another cove in 1000 outbreak would be right near the top why do the 350 senior risk professionals that you consulted for this report why do they think differently. well i think it's actually inbred that it is as he said the bottom of the top 10 where shell still read 30 to. 30 by lightly and in fact then if he

sum game with all politics -- [inaudible] and that's why i think many movement leaders like jerry falwell jr. read the news and try to find an insult to trump. in mid march when it was of obvious to everybody that the coronavirus was really going to be a public health crisis, he cast it as an attempt to get trump. he went on fox news and said it was, like, a hype and overreaction. and one of the most tragic casualties of this kind of fact-free, hyperpartisanship is -- [inaudible] government. >> yeah, yeah. no, absolutely. i mean, that's, you know, sort of has always been a problem is that it can't assess x accurately because it's too dedicated to its narrative and rejects anything that don't meet the narratives. so they're the unable to keep up with realities on the ground which is, inevitably catches up to them. >> right. >> and it's one of the clear advantages of democracy over an authoritarian system, is that it has that flexibility. but, you know, i mean, part of -- a lot of what i've been seeing going on especially online and particularly with some of the younger people attracted to

treasure falwell as we develop plans to do alternative testing. we have not come to a full develop plan, but we are having great discussions. we just opted not for operational concerns not to do less testing on those facility grounds. thanks very next question place. >> ashley tally wre out. governor doctor cohen had 2 quick question for you. first have your key that are requiring businesses to have their after that people feel more comfortable going to their place of business. and secondly if you're able to address something reporter jeff fisher daft about earlier this week have you gotten any closer toward making record public meat processing plant for the safety of the workers and the public. thank you. >> we want to make sure that employees are protected all across our state and we've had lots of conversations with businesses and i think that they know that it is important. for them to make sure that their employees are wearing face coverings in order to protect other employees. and i think that if we see that this is not being done on that we

this is the education of jerry falwell jr. and how he made a good call.ampus tested positive and no staffer station on campus test positive but press accounts left a different impression. explain. >> first of all, liberty is always treated differently. it's an evangelical college jerry falwell triggers a lot of different emotions in different people. so he announced that the kids could come back after spring break. then three days later the governor said no gatherings of over ten and they had a lot of classes with people bigger than 100. there was a lot of social distancing and they took out computers in the computer lab and cleaned frequently used surfaces, a lot of common sense things. in fact, a lot of things that other colleges were doing. the difference is the press treated it as though, they picked up on a group of kids and, that's a graduate living in the community, and taking a class online. they never came about and yet there has been no apologies or anything. i >> sandra: it will be something to see, all the deficiencies universities face. i kno

to that point jerry falwell junior was asked by the "washington post" is anything president trump todo that would endanger support from you or other evangelical leaders? he said no. he said that's the source as i've ever received on that question. >> host: . >> guest: the presence of said yes such strong even joke support he could walk and fifth avenue in europe and shoot somebody instilled support trauma is that because of trump are people are so afraid to trust the democrats try to its combination. king david when he was king over israel at the best line ever on this pick you said put not your trust in kings or mortal flesh that we cannot save and he was king. basically don't trust him. we have leaders. i have my preferences. you have your preferences. everybody has their preferences. the thing that bothers me now among other things is at, somebody made this point the other night on television, a member of congress, it used to be when you have an election the losing side we collect its wounds, have meeting, how do we retool our message? now it's how we do we bring ths guy down? thi

jerry falwell junior was asked by the washington post is there anything president trump could do that would endanger support on you or other evangelical leaders and he said number and he said that's the shortest answer i've ever received on the question. >> the president himself said he had strong evangelical support and he can walk down fifth avenue in new york and shoot somebody. >> is that because of trump or because people are so afraid of the democrats. >> combination of things but king david when he was king over israel had the best line ever on this . he said not your trust in presidents or kings and he was king so basically don't trust him. we have leaders, i have my preferences, you have your preferences but the thing that bothers me now among other things is that somebody needs! the other night ontelevision, a member of congress i think . it used to be when you had an election losing side would lick it. and have meetings, how do we retool our message and how do we win next month? now how do we bring this guy down? and they were arguing about impeachment, the democrats were e

librarian is not too exciting, when you wrote the book working, one of my people was a spy, wt of jerry falwell and looked for dirty words, this cooper, a request has come from a book. we don't carry pornographic literature. it is called working studs and that is when i wrote a bestseller and that got me in trouble. >> host: born in new york. >> guest: born in new york came at the age of 8, wonderful taylor and linda some money and then later on my father tried to run a hotel and the room in the house in the hotel in my university, the university of chicago, don't know why i did, i dreamed of and tendons scalia but one or 2. >> host: why didn't you like law school? >> guest: i wasn't cut out -- clarence darrow, the partnership drove me crazy. it is a series of accidents. a civil servant for a time in washington making $12.60 a year, the second lowest, became an actor by accident, i became a gangster. guiding light about a nurse, same script, getting killed, no tenure. many jobs like radical college professors. as a result, one thing led to another. i play classical jazz, take off on operas, and

not too exciting such as when you wrote the book working one of the people was a spy and from jerry falwell and looking at dirty words and said mr. cooper request is come for a book and i said to the subscriber we don't have pornographic literature and that it's called working studs by charcoal and that's when i knew i had a bestseller. >> my father was ill he was a tailor. so we were alone some money to go to the rooming house and to run a hotel so really those were my universities. i don't know why went to law school. so what are you going to do? >>host: why did you like law school? >> and the partnership call me crazy. the wpa writers project with a civil servant for a time and washington making $12.60 a year and then became a gangster and then in the soap operas. argo all the soap operas were the same. guiding light, it was the same script so i always had a job. many jobs lousy tenure like a college professor. one thing led to another then i became a disc jockey. and then to play classical and jazz and that i do in opera. and then or the singers. and then louis armstrong follows. so wha