i did hear the case and i did hear officer falzon's comments. maybe the owners could invite neighbors to their space and say this is what we're hearing and wear they're moccasins for a moment. it may not be a violation with the city but doesn't mean there isn't noise. some people hear things other people can't hear but if they get that perspective, then they can say to the city, well, you've had other cases and what are some of the safebadder safeu put in and maybe they can try that. if this has gone on for ten years, that seems like a long time and sounds chronic. but i think the other part that the lady didn't mention is, she worked for an aunt for 19 years and does have experience in making doughnuts. and so, in that part it's pretty good. but this is something that can be worked out. they have to get together. >> thank you very much pu. >> any more public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. thoughts? >> for me, you know, we need places after 2:00, extended hours, places to sober up and in reading the letters, there a