it is not what you would think of as welfare and programs that we have to help needy fam fapsing. yes, sir those have risen with the revere recession. elephant in the room is the programs that we have let balloon and generationally are becoming a problem as baby boomers retire. >> i think the elephant in the room is the money we are spending. food stamps in an all-time high. >> isn't there a limit someplace? at some point wouldn't family or charity or church step in if someone's benefits would be cut off. now it is time to stop. i have relatives that are unemployed and i know hardship and feel for people who need the aid, i know i decided to take off a extra year to work on a novel and a woman from a wealthy family on food stamp and the store manager in brooklyn is telling her how easy it is. >> oh, come on. >> social security i will start collecting in nine years a dependency. i paid in. >> i paid in this much and take out this much. >> we all hope and pray that social security is there. but steve, polls of young people say more likely to see an alien from outer space than get a