i don't think it was fair that mark included as a hate group the family research council. at by the way, actually led to an incident of violence -- >> right. there was a -- >> someone came in and shot a guard at the family research council in washington, and this is a mainstream conservative group. >> he did say that he saw the name on your website. let me hold on to that point for a second. i'll bring john in here. square the circle for me between what you describe, what you've written about as "wingnuts" and violence. >> well, what's important to realize is this is not debating classifications, this is not about criminalizing dissent. what's important about the work of the splc is tracking a trend which is unmistakable. you talk about 800% growth in the number of self-proscribed patriot groups, something is going on. to deny it has been a willful blindness in my opinion. we've seen the rise in steady rhetoric about this communist conspiracy to undo the constitution, marshal law -- >> so what? >> so what? rhetoric has retreated there's more emphasis on the birther thing. >

tell it like it is good on you senator warren lucky to have you the bad guy pat fagan in the family research council nobody really expects pat fagan and his colleagues at the family research council to provide insightful policy analysis but is tuesday appearance in washington watch was an embarrassment even by his own mind numbing standards fagan the single most destructive decision in the history of supreme court was in one thousand nine hundred seventy two when the court officially recognized the right of unmarried partners to obtain contraceptives eisenstadt who says. that's right buying condoms for you him is worse than stealing elections which is what the court did in bush v gore and worst thing categorizing people as. property the corps did an eight hundred fifty seven with dred scott what were these people living. and the very very ugly steve emerson. he didn't know the bugs the brotherhood runs america or your right wing conspiracy theorist extraordinary steve emerson the muslim brotherhood has penetrated virtually all institutions of the united states would he lawyer unwittingly a lot of us

family research and that led to an incident of violence. someone came in and shot a guard at the family research council. >> mark, you did say -- >> and he didhe name on your website. let me just hold on to that point for a second. let me bring in john. square the circle between what you described, what you've written about his wing nuts and violence. >> well, ali, look, i think what's important to realize is that this is not debating classifications. this is not about criminalizing descent. what's important is tracking a trend which is unmistakable. you're talking about 800% growth in the number of self-described patriot groups over the presidency for barack obama, something is going on. and to deny it has been a willful blindness, in my opinion. we've seen the steady rhetoric to undo the constitution, martial law. >> rhetoric is retreated, john. >> no. >> hold on. hold on. listen, please, let me finish. because this is important. actually, they said with the rise of anti-native groups has declined. what you concern us all is the ratcheting up of rhetoric and some of these groups give folks and it's become a racket that proliferates in the

family research council president will be your with his reaction and thoughts. banks in cyprus are opening tomorrow, although with heavy restrictions of which way the money can flow. former reagan economic adviser professor arthur lawford joins us. immigration reform being debated in private, discussed in private behind closed doors. cash-strapped lobbyists are, of course, getting full access. the american people are simply shoved out of this closed-door discussion. legislation is just weeks away. we will be taking all of that up here tonight. we begin with the supreme court. same-sex marriage for a second straight day. the issue. today's case, the united states verses wednesday challenging the 1996 defense of marriage act signed into law by president bill clinton. the finding marriage at the federal level as a union between a man and woman. the president of the justice department has refused to support the case or enforce the law. fox news supreme court correspondent chin in green with our report. >> as protesters outside the spring court said overturned the de

family research council. they will take two groups like this with whom they disagree with politically and lump them together with truly despicable groups and aryans and aryan nation and skin heads. >> laura: trying to shut down your funding and run you out of business. that's what they want. they do not want to debate you on the issue. that's my view. >> look, they have an agenda. one is to stir the pot to create their own fundraising and b to shut down the debate to the extent that they have affected fare or any of the groups. we roll with the punches. >> laura: it's or wellian. you think of the hate that is routinely directed toward catholics and other organizations because they happen to believe in traditional outlook. somehow they are haters, they are terrible people. they shouldn't be allowed to have a presence in any type of after school activity. these are horrible people. and. >> make no mistake there is a legal definition for what a hate crime is. hate group is concoction of the politically left sove

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. >> reporter: see i have to read you a quote which is from thepo conservative family research council. they are blaming, "a corporate environment dictated by wealth pro-homosexual activists" for the growing corporate support for same-sex marriage. how do you react to that? >> i'm not biased. i'm trying to have a neutra workplace environment that is as inviting for all people. to the extent there are other companies or industries which are going to be hostile and i will repellent to people who are talented, you know something? they're just giving us a competitive advantage. >> axelrod: lloyd blankfein. next up, a wife's battle to bring attention to the health dangers of military burn pits. to current and former military members and their families. life brings obstacles. usaa brings retirement advice. nexium, the purple pill, helps provide many with day and night relief of heartburn symptoms caused by acid reflux disease. there is risk of bone fracture and low magnesium levels. side effects may include headache abdominal pain, and diarrhea. call your doctor right away if you have persis

when you asked, for example, i had an interview with tony perkins and the family research council. what is it about calling a gay union marriage that offends you? how does it hurt a traditional or heterosexual marriage? >> bill: right. >> i didn't hear anything articulated that was particularly persuasive. >> bill: i agree with you 100%. 100% i hate to say this kelly. next week i have something for kelly she is not going to like. i agree 100%. compelling argument is on the side of homosexuals. that's where the compelling argument is. we are americans. we just want to be treated like everybody else. that's a compelling argument. and to deny that you have got to have a very strong argument on the other side. >> the argument on the other side -- >> -- the argument on the other side hasn't been anything thump the bible. >> marriage is institution for 2,000 years has been about a man and woman creating babies and protocol creation. look how society has changed. i mean, people they talked today about would we be okay passing a law saying people over a 5 can't get married because they are

. >> reporter: conservative groups like the family research council are blasting his decision to supportsex marriage. they said, quote, our unconditional love for our children should not override the historical and social science evidence which makes abundantly clear what is best for all children and for society-being raised by a married mother and father, end quote. dick cheney publicly switched his stance on gay marriage encouraged by his daughter who is a lesbian. >> newt gingrich did not have to change his position. allen keys had a daughter who was gay and he was a republican candidate and he viciously disowned her. so i think it took courage on portman's part. >> reporter: smith believes this announcement will be one of those factors to make a difference on prop 8 in a week and a half. several pick name reporters including meg whitman filed in brief support of same sex marriage. >> they had beefs filed by cheney and other republicans, collin powell, and republican opinion polls as well, so i think this makes it more likely that the court will, justice kennedy n particular, will swi

. >> when you ask, for example, i had an interview with tony perkins of family research council, what calling marriage, calling a gay union marriage that offends you, how does it hurt traditional, heterosexual marriage, i didn't hear anything articulated that was particularly persuasive. >> i agree with you 100%. i agree with you 100%. the compelling argument is on the side of homosexuals. that's where the compelling argument is. we're americans, we just want to be treated like everybody else. that's a compelling argument. and to deny that, you have to have a strong argument on the other side. and the other side hasn't done anything but thump the bible. i live in new york, i am fine with it. i want all americans to be happy, i do. >> in 1977, harvey milk was the first openly gay person elected to public office in the state of california when he won a seat on the san francisco board of supervisors. he was in office less than a year, helping to pass a landmark gay rights ordinance before he was assassinated, while at work in his office, in city hall. joining me for his first national te

here we have former conference of catholic spokeswoman now with the family research council and with us for the full hour lanny davis and michael steele. kathy thank you for this. i want to ask a couple of things. before i get to whether he's going to be an evangelist or whatever the vatican has major problems. the vatican bank has major problems. the church has not cleaned up these sex scandals. as someone who is a weekly church gore these things trouble me enormously. how will he handle it? >> it sounds like he's a good administrator. he's respected for the work he's done in his archdiocese in buenos aires. people have high hopes this will be a pastor that's most important of course but a good manager and frankly a good reformer if these things need reform inside the vatican. >> lanny, a lot of things i want to get to away from the field of management. we're talking about a pope. everybody that i talked to says the same thing. the vatican has to be cleaned up, it needs new people to run it. the vatican bank has become a financial disaster. as you know from reading the newspapers, y

the manhattan declaration, family research council, heritage foundation, and john paul the great highl, and the culture of life and the catholic diocese of arlington. the catholic diocese of providence. human lifenion, the institute for religion and democracy. i want to remind everyone that if you take pictures of what happened as we marched by the supreme court, anyone you saw at the beginning of the march there was an intent to try to block us and we were able to keep going, we kneel down and we prayed, thank you for that. if you have pictures of that please e-mail them to mm@nation formarriage.org. people walking around that have petitions that will go to the supreme court. sign the petition. this is not an end. this is a beginning. it is my honor to introduce our first speaker. you have heard a brief prayer from him before. he is someone that stood up during proposition 8, that helped raise the money and get people together to get proposition 8 on the ballot. is the head of the said committee on marriage. and the archbishop of san francisco. come on. we can do better than that. >>

tony perkins of the family research council appeared this issue to your recent super bowl win. what he said. >> 30 states, eight additional states have the definition of natural marriage into their statutes. so we're far from being at a point where america has embraced same-sex marriage. if you look at it you know, brendan, they won the super bowl by three points. we're at 30 to i think two states where the people have actually voted on marriage. that's a pretty widespread. >> brendan, i want to ask you, you never got a chance to respond to that. do you think that this really needs to be a states rights issue? do you think that the majority should be voting on minority civil rights? >> no, not at all. it shouldn't be voted on by even the people this is actually something that's guaranteed under the constitution. but look at the last two states that did take it to vote. those two states passed the marriage equality and if you look at the polls out, the majority of americans are voting for marriage equality. not only do we have the majority of the people and states are voting for

he's the director of the center for religious liberty at the family research council and a breitbart news legal columnist. and mary bonauto opposes doma. she is special counsel for the group gay and lesbian advocates and defenders. welcome to the you both to the "newshour." we were saying there was some discussion at the court today about jurisdiction, but we're going to set that aside and talk about the core of the argument today. first of all, mary bonauto, in the analysis i've been reading, there are a number of folks who are concluding that there are enough votes now on the court to strike down doma. how did you read generally what you heard from the justices today? >> i'm not prepared to make any predictions based on an oral argument but clearly the questions were going to two key issues. one is when the federal government has for so long deferred to a state's determination about who is married, why in 1996 did they change the rules when it looked like same-sex couples might begin to marry and impose a federal definition. secondly, when you have all these protections available t

and the president of "freedom thearry" president of family research council will be there.eek," and "this finally "face the nation" from cbs > on c-span radio or anyone on xm, your smartphone -r online at cs- spanradio.org. >> the most striking difference is the calmness of the parade. a hundred years ago it wasn't a parade so much as a riot. the police refused to protect the marchers. as they progressed and down their planned parade route the crowds start larger and larger. there were very unruly. they started to throw things at women. they shouted things. they told to go home. -- not as that of streetcars the crowd got larger and larger and more aggressive. the women could not go forward. the police were not involved. the secretary of defense called up calvary's to push back the unruly crowds so women could continue their peaceful exercise of their first amendment right. it is a wonderful peacefulness assembly in a celebration for how far we have come. >> this weekend, a look the centennial celebration of the woman's suffrage parade that took place on pennsylvania avenue

. >> the next speaker is from another coat-sponsor for the event, and a leader of the family research councile people for staying through the cold. taking for staying. i am a lawyer. also a member of the supreme court bar, but i decided not to try to go there, but instead stay here with you and march with this historic march. i have some good news potentially from people inside the court who were blogging. it appears that justice kennedy is potentially the swing vote on this. mell,

evan wilson, founder and president of freedom to marry and tony perkins, family research council. here. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> megyn: let me start with you on this, tony, doma had a tough day in court and in doma's defense it didn't have the federal government there to defend it. normally they get the defense of the department of justice and president obama declined to do that in this case because he doesn't believe the law is constitutional. and they hired a skilled advocate, he defended the law. and if struck down, what does that mean? >> as you know, megyn, there are two components to doma, one is protecting the states and their definition of marriage and the question today the federal definition of marriage, what doma does for the federal government. defining it as you said as a man and a woman. the fact that the government didn't defend it may have a bearing on what the court does with the case, but if they strike it down the bigger question is how do you define marriage in this country because the federal government obviously has a compelling from in def

tonight, family research council president tony perkins joins lou why he discusses that people shouldo longer fund the gop. >> this will be fascinating. tony perkins one of the leading religious conservatives in the country. one of the smartest folks, talking about public policy. adam: lou dobbs, thank you very much. i don't know if lou is on the list for the 8,000, a few lucky people will, sporting fancy expensive eyewear coming days thanks to google. shibani joshi has details about google glass. >> if lou wants some he could get a pair of google glasses. adam, you want some too move over chanel frames. this is something more geeky. people will be able to get their hands on first pairs of google glasses. the tech giant ran a contest not too long ago and asked for 50-word essay for applicants where they were asked to explain how they will use the technology in their own lives. now if you're one of those lucky 8,000 winners, you're being notified today and over the next couple of days. so hold out hope. check your in-box. they will be notified by either by google plus or by twitter. th

. >> and again, i love the family research council. >> you're on your mailing list. >> i'm not on yourt told what to pray for. >> super-duper prayer thing. let me tell you we're getting flooded with praying against gay marriage. urgent prayer for marriage is what we got this week. urgent prayer! >> stephanie: don't you think what happened to me on southwest is god's way of saying -- he wants marriage equality? don't you think? [ applause ] they're the ones that accuse us of having no family values. stranger wants to shove her tongue in my mouth on an airline. >> it is southwest airlines. isn't southwest airlines sort of got that kind of family values reputation? >> stephanie: right. right! i was the one going no, i don't play. >> no one has joined the mile high club on southwest. >> stephanie: i gave her the ann romney stop it. >> ann: stop it! stop it! this is hard. >> i hate to ask sort of a question that's hanging out there but was she hot? >> stephanie: yeah, she was attractive. but i have family values. i still want to get married. >> you don't want to get your rocks off every onc

applause] >> the next speaker is from another co-sponsor for the event, and a leader of the family research councilruse. [applause] >> hi, you brave people for staying through the cold. thank you for staying. i am a lawyer. i am also a member of the supreme court bar, but i decided not to try to go there, but instead stay here with you and march with this historic march. i have some good news potentially from people inside the court who were blogging. it appears that justice kennedy is potentially the swing vote on this. well, some lawyers inside the court say he appeared to be not quite that comfortable about overturning proposition 8. so can we say a prayer right now that his discomfort continues? [applause] this debate is framed in the desires of the adult. the children are never mentioned from the other side. that is the entire reason government is involved in the first place. i would like to read you something the obama administration department of justice is arguing before the court today. they are saying that same-sex couples divide childcare evenly and are quite satisfied with their childca

the manhattan declaration, family research council, heritage foundation, and john paul the great high school, and the culture of life and director, the catholic diocese of arlington. of catholic diocese providence. christian union, human life international, the institute for religion and democracy. i want to remind everyone that if you take pictures of what happened as we marched by the supreme court, anyone you saw the beginning of the march there was an intent to try to block us and we were able to keep going, we kneel down and we prayed, thank you for that. if you have pictures of that please e-mail them to mm@nationformarriage.org. there will be people walking around that have petitions that will go to the supreme court. sign the petition. this is not an end. this is a beginning. ours my honor to introduce first speaker. you have heard a brief prayer from him before. he is someone that stood up during proposition 8, that helped raise the money and get people together to get proposition 8 on the ballot. is the head of the said committee on marriage. and the archbishop of san franci

according to new research from the family equality council, of children living with same-sex parents,biological children. other families, they do have adopted and foster kids. is there research, steve, to suggest that families with same-sex parents fare any differently? let's remind everybody that heterosexual couples and heterosexual parents can raise great kids, they can raise bad kids. the same argument can go for gay and lesbian parents. they can raise amazing children or they cannot. i mean it's, they're the same kind of parents, basically. >> sure. well i can tell you this. i mean a week ago we had the american academy of pediatrics release a powerful statement endorsing marriage equality and saying that marriage benefits all families. and behind that is more than 30 years of social science research which tells us that the kids raised by same-sex parents grow up with the same positive developmental outcomes as their peers who are raised by opposite-gender couples. so there is, there's a body, there's a wealth of research out there, that says that these kids are just the same as

especially for the busses, the thomas moore society, focus on the family -- [cheers and applause] the manhattan declaration, stanley research council, heritage foundation, john paul the great high school, gary hicks, the culture of life directer of maryland state council of knights of columbus. the cot lick diocese of arlington, the cat lick diocese of providence, christian union, only two more, human life international, mark tuly of the institute for religion and democracy. [cheers and applause] also, i want to remind everyone that if you took pictures of what happened as we marched right by the supreme court, if any of you saw that in the beginning of the march, there was an attempt to try and block us, and we were able to keep going, kneeled down, and we prayed, and thank you for that. if you have pictures of that, please, e-mail them to mn@nationformarriage.org. if you have pictures, we want all of the pictures. also, there's people walk around that have petitions that will go to the supreme court, sign the petition. this is not an end. this is a beginning. [cheers and applause] it's my honor to introduce our first speaker. you