he has known fani willis for decades. he's also known john floyd, the attorney who will help in her investigation of donald trump as a special prosecutor. i really appreciate you making time to be here tonight. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> so i am not a lawyer. i'm not an expert in famous georgia public corruption cases. so i want to give you a chance, if i explained any of that wrong or if i blurred something that should be sharply defined there. i want to give you a chance to tell me i'm wrong. >> no, you pretty much hit the nail on the head, especially when it comes to john floyd. having john floyd on your team in a racketeering case is kind of like having the teacher help you write your term paper or having the author of the book, having the author of the textbook help you study for the test. you know that your racketeering case will be done right if you have him on the team. >> should we see it as a sign that d.a. willis is going to pursue racketeering charges that she has brought on john floyd? or will

get started today. >>> in an interview with the daily beast, fani willis said this about the grand juryrump's interference with the election. quote, i suspect that's in the very near future. reporting that willis has formed a special team to study possible election law violations by donald trump and rudy giuliani and others on the trump team. donald trump is also under criminal investigation by the manhattan district attorney in new york city, but in the georgia case, the public has already heard what might be the most damning evidence that the grand jury considers, and that's donald trump phone call to the georgia secretary of state on january 2nd, on which donald trump asked him to find 11,780 votes while the secretary was recording the hourlong phone call. joining us now, michael j. moore. when you hear fani willis saying subpoenas very soon, it sounds like we're going to see some real movement. >> it's like clearing your throat before the national anthem. and the d.a. controls the grand jury, she knows the timing and when she'll move forward. i think she's just laying out a game pla

reuters has now confirmed that district attorney fani willis has enlisted the help of atlanta lawyering state racketeering cases. if she pursues racketeering charges, willis will need to prove a pattern of corruption by trump, alone or with his allies, aimed at overturning the election results to stay out of jail. i should tell you that i racketeering conviction in the state of georgia can carry a sentence of up to 20 years in prison. i will also tell you we're going to have much more on this tomorrow night with a former georgia d.a. who knows both fani willis and the racketeering expert she just hired for her trump case who knows exactly how a case like this will work. looking forward to that. you will not want to miss it. >>> stay with us. want to miss t >>> stay with us introducing the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it's the most comfortable, body-sensing, automatically-responding, energy-building, dually-adjustable, dad-powering, wellness-boosting, foot-warming, snore-relieving, temperature-balancing, recovery-assisting, effortlessly life-changing, proven quality night's sleep w

fani willis is empanelling a new grand jury this week that could soon begin issuing subpoenas for documentstimony in prosecution of possible election fraud committed by donald trump. reports that willis is investigating several state crimes including solicitation of election fraud, making false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office, and involvement in violence and threats related to elections. no former president of the united states has ever been charged with crime, this could be the year when willis and vance take their place in american history as the first to charge a former president with crimes. joining us now, andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and prosecutor. he also served in the mueller investigation. he's an nbc news and msnbc legal analyst. news of the focus on weisselberg who knows where all the money has come and gone in trump world, what does that mean to you? >> great question. it's not surprising that this is where the investigation is headed, and this is a key person to flip, to become a witness.

s office confirmed that district attorney fani willis has enlisted the help of atlanta lawyer john floydal guide on prosecuting racketeering cases under state law. summed up this way, if she pursues racketeering charges, willis will need to prove a pattern of corruption by trump, alone or with his allies, aimed at overturning the election results to stay in power. racketeering usually involved in crimes like murder and bribery, the state of georgia defines is more broadly. i should tell you that i racketeering conviction in the state of georgia can carry a sentence of up to 20 years in prison. i will also tell you we're going to have much more on this tomorrow night with a former georgia d.a. who knows both fani willis and the racketeering expert she just hired for her trump case who knows exactly how a case like this will work. looking forward to that. you will not want to miss it. >>> stay with us. new miracle-earmini- a nearly invisible hearing aid from the brand leader in hearing aids with over 70 years of experience. (deborah) when i finally had miracle-ear and i could hear for the

and fulton county district attorney fani willis in atlanta has followed the manhattan district attorney'scutor with experience in racketeering investigations. joining us now is neal katyal, former acting u.s. solicitor general and an msnbc contributor. neal, you're donald trump. you're out on the golf course today and maybe someone tells you, or maybe they decide they better not tell you, that fani willis has hired john floyd who literally wrote a national guide on prosecuting state racketeering cases. what does that do to the next time you approach the ball on the golf course? does that maybe break the concentration a little bit? >> absolutely, 100%, lawrence. donald trump has been bouncing around. he was a reality tv star, he was a businessman, he was president, and now he's finally found his calling, defendant in a racketeering case. and this news is really significant because john floyd, as you say, has literally written the book on prosecuting state officials, entities for racketeering and ms. willis herself has prosecuted folks for cheating on standardized tests. normally it's for v

cooke, what does this new evidence add to what fani willis is presenting already to a fulton county grandtrying to change the result. and i think it's important that we don't get hung up on just this phone call but we see how it fits into the larger picture. and that's what's important about a racketeering indictment, is that if she were to bring racketeering as was referenced in her letter to governor, then the jury would hear multiple pieces of the puzzle and put them all together to get a more clearer picture of what went on. >> one of the other things that's mentioned, these different counts that she's investigating that's mentioned in her letter, is making false statements to state and local government bodies. did we not just hear donald trump making false statements to a government official? >> i'm not aware of any evidence that substantiates the claims that the former president just made on that phone call, but again, i think it's important to remember that there were other statements that he and other people assisting him made to georgia officials that weren't true. so when you co

s office has non confirmed, that fulton county district attorney fani willis has enlisted the help ofanta lawyer john floyd, who wrote a national guide on prosecuting racketeering cases under state law. reuters sums up the legal landscape this way -- "if she pursues racketeering charges, willis will need to prove a pattern of corruption by trump alone or with his allies aimed at overturning the election results to stay in power. while racketeering is typically pursued by prosecutors in cases involving such crimes as murder, kidnapping, and bribery, the georgia statute defines racketeering more broadly to include things like false statements made to state officials." i should tell you that a racketeering conviction in the state of georgia can carry a sentence of up to 20 years in prison. i will also tell you that we're going to have much more on this tomorrow night with a former georgia d.a. who knows both fani willis and the racketeering expert she just hired for her trump case who knows exactly how a case like this will work. i'm looking forward to that. you do not want to miss it. s

fani willis said to be an expert in racketeering laws. a spokesperson for trump has not responded to our we quest for comment about that phone call. mona. >> alex, thank you. >>> georgia is also the center of a growing debate over voting restrictions. the state senate which is led by republicans has passed a bill that would among other things ban early voting on sundays and make it a misdemeanor to hand out food and water to voters in line. the governor has not said whether he would sign the bill. >>> a sixth accuser says new york governor reached under her blouse and groped her. that's according to "the times union of albany." the incident allegedly took place last year when the female aide was called to the governor's mansion. she said it's not the only time cuomo touched her. the governor denies the allegations. >>> time for a look at your thursday morning weather. more rain is expected today in southern california where mudslides left behind this mass all m burned in wifirdilect in e system is bringing snow to the sierra nevada mounta

. >> reporter: at the heart of fani willis' investigation, the infamous call between trump and brad raffensbergerall i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> that call just the starting point for willis' probe. >> obviously, it's been reported around the world that phone call. and so we have said, yes, that is part of the investigation. but we're not narrowing it to that. >> reporter: trump's recorded call with raffensberger came after 18 other attempts to reach the secretary of state's office which legal experts say could help establish trump's intention. >> the repeated calls started to tell the story this was not, again, an official trying to talk to another official about problems that he or she might see in an election. it's more about how do i get to the place that i can win the race and what do we have to do about it. >> reporter: willis has already asked a num ber of georgia terribles to preserve documents. some lawyered up even before her inquiries. she's also looking into the abrupt departure of b.j. pock. rudy g

. >> reporter: at the heart of fani willis' investigation, the now-infamous call between trump and georgia's brad raffensperger. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. because we won the state. >> reporter: that call just the starting point for willis' probe. >> obviously, it's been reported around the world, that faphone call. so we have said, yes, that is part of the investigation, but we're not narrowing it to that. >> reporter: trump's reported call with raffensperger came after 18 other attempts by the white house to reach the secretary of state's office. which legal experts say could help establish trump's intentions. >> the repeated call is starting to tell the story that this was not, again, an official trying to talk to another official about problems that he or she might see in an election. it's more about, you know, how do i get to the place that i can win the race and what do we have to do about it. >> reporter: willis has already asked a number of georgia officials to preserve documents, though they are not targets. some ha

the georgia state prosecutor in fulton county, fani willis, launched a criminal investigation into president trump last month. he is being investigated for having pressured georgia election officials to pervert the results of the election to declare him the winner. in addition to trump, the investigation is also reportedly looking into efforts to try to overturn the election by south carolina senator lindsey graham and by the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani. it now seems a possibility we can add one more name to the list, mark meadows, former white house chief of staff? because she was name-checked, and for lots of other reasons. we will be joined here live next by stacey abrams. stay with us. by stacey abrams stay with us >>> democratic presidential candidate joe biden won the state of georgia in the 2020 election. he did not beat donald trump in georgia by a lot, but he did definitely and decisively beat him there. one of the places in georgia that helped put biden over the edge statewide was hancock county. hancock county has one of the highest proportions of black voters of any county

the georgia state prosecutor in fulton county, fani willis launched a criminal investigation into presidentt month. he is being investigated for having pressured georgia election officials to pervert the results of the election to declare him the winner. in addition to trump, the investigation is also reportedly looking into efforts to try to overturn the election by south carolina senator lindsey graham and by the president's lawyer rudy giuliani. it now seems a possibility we can add one more name to the list, mark meadows, former white house chief of staff, because she was named yet and for lots of other reasons, we will be joined here live next by stacey abrams. stay with us. ay with us downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle. renae is not an influencer, she's more of a groundbreaker. renae runs with us on a john deere 1 series tractor. because out here, you can't fake a job well done. hear renae's story at deere.com was that your great-grandmother, keeping the family together? was

. >> that was fulton county district attorney fani willis on rachel maddow's show last month at the beginningte, brad raffensperger. you know the one, where trump asked him to find the votes to overturn joe biden's win there. now thanks to an exclusive report this weekend out of reuters, we're getting a clearer picture as to just what they're investigating there. reuters reports that willis has hired an atlanta-based lawyer to join her team, a sign that racketeering may be a big part of the case against trump and has allies. joining our conversation, msnbc legal analyst, andrew weissman, former fbi general counsel. i think i have learned from you to follow the hiring if you want a window into where prosecution is going. tell me what this one says. >> well, georgia has really ripped a page from the cy vance playbook, because in manhattan, cy vance hired both sti and accounting in manhattan they hired fti and accounting expert firm e ternl to the office. and a very well known defense prosecutor it help work on their donald trump investigation. and now in georgia you have an expert on charges. a